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Gray Peterson
10-14-2010, 11:27 PM
UPDATE (2015 Aug 08):

This from the Sheriff's CCW webpage (http://sbso.us/concealed-weapons-permits) (emphasis added):

The Sheriff’s Office is aware of the Peruta v. San Diego case recently heard in the Ninth Circuit U. S. Court of Appeals. We have evaluated the outcome and will continue to monitor the issue as it progresses. The standard of “good cause” varies from county to county, and recently has not been a roadblock to our applicants. Please continue to complete the full application packet to include your statement of good cause

freonr22
10-26-2010, 12:58 PM
here!

Guess its time to grow up and change my avatar, also put off the "me" needs and focus on my family's needs and rights protection.

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Anyone else in San Benito?

I may move from there next year... but this needs to happen. Money is soo tight right now, this is MORE important.

Thank you to the tireless people working hard here.

freonr22
11-04-2010, 3:51 PM
Bump for San Benito, or anywhere else for that matter!!

Sponsor your county today! ALSO

VENDORS needed

Barkoff
12-01-2010, 7:47 AM
Hi. I'm living in Hollister and will be attending my CCW class tomorrow night. On my application I decided I would not bullschitt, I listed my good cause as nothing but "self protection and protection of my family". I'll let you know how it goes.

Barkoff
12-07-2010, 8:58 PM
Class completed.

Turned in application on June 7, took the first class offered on 12/2
Fingerprinted on 12/6, awaiting DOJ, then I presume a meeting with the new sheriff (probablly not until January), then I believe a day at the range.. after that, who knows.

RX_Pilot
03-22-2011, 1:24 PM
Hey - any update? I'm an permanent absentee voter of San Benito county and voted for the Sheriff who promised "shall issue" in the last election. Hope he's delivering on it.

Barkoff
04-03-2011, 10:10 PM
He delivered today. Took way too long, but he seems to acknowledge this and sounds as if he wants to approve on it. My good cause was simply "self protection and protection of family".

emtmark
12-04-2012, 11:39 PM
Something I'd like to get any insight to the process or personalities encountered? Good or bad?

Svockbockman
04-13-2013, 10:13 PM
To resurrect an old thread...

Any new(er) information on the process. I live in Hollister and I am ready to finally tackle this challenge that I have been putting off for too long.

My GC is little more than: "Protection of my family and self" - Which should be more than enough ;)

Any one who has any updated info, tips, hints, timeline, contacts etc...any help would be greatly appreciated.

Regards,

Svock

mmayer707
04-25-2013, 12:44 AM
I am interested as well. Just wondering if they are still shall issue in San Benito

WarEagle
05-11-2013, 11:57 PM
A friend of mine went through the process last year and was issued a ccw, although he said it was a very lengthy process. I heard the Sheriff brought on a couple of guys to help expedite the process so it's quicker now. You have to go to the new office and pickup an app which is San Benito County and DOJ. Then you'll get called in to go over the app and the entire process. You need to get live scanned, provide passport photos for the permit and your file, provide letters of reference and attend a ccw class they offer a couple times a year. If I remember right it was almost a year long process for him. Good luck!

JRG351
06-07-2013, 4:11 PM
I picked up my application this week. I will keep you updated on my progress.

emtmark
06-15-2013, 9:04 PM
Looking forward to the updates. Towns getting rough and it's about time for me to plunk the money down and follow your example.

JRG351
06-22-2013, 9:50 AM
Completed the application and Good Cause statement, just need to get the 3 character reference letters.

taperxz
06-22-2013, 3:06 PM
Completed the application and Good Cause statement, just need to get the 3 character reference letters.

That is an illegal request

JRG351
06-23-2013, 9:06 AM
Yes, but that what can we do?
Also in addition to the normal fees for CCW class DOJ and county processing, there is a $240 administration fee.

taperxz
06-23-2013, 2:54 PM
Yes, but that what can we do?
Also in addition to the normal fees for CCW class DOJ and county processing, there is a $240 administration fee.

Refer them to the new law implemented via SB 610


This is the stuff the sunshine Initiative was supposed to do for us but they don't seem to around any more.

http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/11-12/bill/sen/sb_0601-0650/sb_610_cfa_20110404_135150_sen_comm.html

JTecalo
07-30-2013, 4:15 PM
I picked up a packet today and talked a bit with Capt. Becker who is handling the CCW permits.

He told me the Sheriff's dept. is running 7 months behind in processing due to staff cuts.

Jim

emtmark
07-30-2013, 8:02 PM
Was there any attention given to the extraordinary amount of cash required or the letters of reference?

Or is it just going to be the way it is?

JTecalo
07-31-2013, 7:44 AM
Was there any attention given to the extraordinary amount of cash required or the letters of reference?

Or is it just going to be the way it is?

I didn't have a chance to read any of the "packet" he gave me until I got home, so the discussion was very general and only about 5 minutes.

The fees seemed high but it is what it is. I thought the psych eval and 3 letters of recommendation were not supposed to be part of the application process anymore but I guess I misunderstood. Maybe someone here @ CG can shed some light on that.

I got the distinct impression he was discouraging me from applying. He did say there were a lot of requirements and costs involved, more so than required for my Oregon resident permit, so I should decide if it was worth it.
Jim

emtmark
07-31-2013, 8:46 AM
I read through a few threads, which makes me a de facto expert, lol. I believe the process could use a review and weed out the fluff. It might take a letter from the ol steam roller to do it.
The fees clearly are not allowed. I'm wondering who should review this or if its even on the radar?

JTecalo
07-31-2013, 9:57 AM
I read through a few threads, which makes me a de facto expert, lol. I believe the process could use a review and weed out the fluff. It might take a letter from the ol steam roller to do it.
The fees clearly are not allowed. I'm wondering who should review this or if its even on the radar?

I'm no expert by any means, so it's confusing one county does it one way, another some other way.

It seems like it should be a state issued permit consisting of:
1. background check & fingerprints
2. Handgun safety LTC class
3. reasonable fees
4. permit issued

but then again like I said I'm no expert.
In Oregon we had a 4-6 hour firearms class (no shooting) that covered what we could and could not do with a LTC permit. We were allowed to ask questions about different scenarios and had the applicable laws & regulations explained to us. We also received a paperback book on the laws.

There was a short handgun safety test consisting of hands on safe handling of a semi-auto and a revolver, load /unload, trigger discipline.

divergent topic..I just finished reading Andrew Branca's book Law of Self Defense. It explains self defense laws for the layman and is not a bad read. lawofselfdefense.com (http://lawofselfdefense.com/preorder-now/)

Jim

JRG351
08-18-2013, 12:38 PM
I didn't think it would take so long to get 3 friends to write character reference letters. Last week I received my 3rd letter; I will be assembling my packet this weekend and delivering it to the Sheriff department next week.

emtmark
08-18-2013, 4:19 PM
I'm eyes wide open on this share with us your process I'm not going to be far behind you.

JRG351
09-12-2013, 12:13 PM
FYI,
I talked to the Sheriff on Wednesday regarding my application and the CCW class that we are required to take.

His suggestion was not to wait until the last minute to take the class as it will delay them from processing the application. Since there is already a delay i don't want to take a chance and add to it, so I'm going get it out of the way early.

I called one of the CCW instructors (Firearm Training Institute) that were listed in the application packet and scheduled a class for November 3rd. The class starts at 8:00 am and is about 9 hours long, I believe the shooting qualification will be 1 to 5 pm at Coyote Valley Sporting Clays in Morgan hill.

In case any of you are interested in attending this class you can contact David Matthews at 408-506-1884. David is very familiar with the San Benito CCW process.

http://www.firearmtraininginstitute.com/index.htm The November 3rd class will be posted on the website later today.

California CCW Classes are county-specific and we have authority to teach classes in Monterey County, Santa Cruz County, Alameda County, Yuba County, Sutter County, El Dorado County, Sacramento County, and San Joaquin County. Other Counties within California are being added as approved by the County Sheriff.

Hope to see some of you there.

surferscca
09-29-2013, 12:15 PM
I just picked up my CCW packet this weekend and i have 2 questions.

1. What information are they looking for on the character letters
2. does the "Self defense and defense of my family." qualify for good cause.

JRG351
09-29-2013, 8:23 PM
I just picked up my CCW packet this weekend and i have 2 questions.

1. What information are they looking for on the character letters
2. does the "Self defense and defense of my family." qualify for good cause.

Hi surferscca,
When you pick up your packet there will be a section regarding character. follow that and you should be ok.

I tried using "Self defense and defense of my family" and i was told by the sheriffs dept that it was weak. They want to see something of value $$$$ I was given an opportunity to rewrite it and add in the valuable products that I transport in my vehicle for work. I turned it in last week and haven't heard from them.

Hope this helps.

surferscca
10-02-2013, 8:33 AM
Thanks for the response. Got two of my letters gathered up, just waiting for a couple more. I don't have any other "good cause" besides self defense (which should be the ultimate reason) has anyone been successful with the self defense argument in San Benito.

JRG351
10-04-2013, 7:50 AM
Update: I received a letter from the Seriff's office yesterday stating that my application and good cause statement meets their requirements. They will be contacting me in couple of weeks to set up a time for the interview.

surferscca
10-18-2013, 3:33 PM
I got a response yesterday too. GC was accepted and next is the interview. I'm enrolled in the November 3rd ccw class coyote valley sporting clays.

JRG351
10-18-2013, 5:28 PM
I got a response yesterday too. GC was accepted and next is the interview. I'm enrolled in the November 3rd ccw class coyote valley sporting clays.

Congratulations, see you November 3rd :D

JRG351
11-11-2013, 10:03 AM
Update: It's been 4 weeks since I received my letter and no one has called to set up at time for the interview. They must be busy.

surferscca
11-12-2013, 2:00 PM
just had my interview today. went well, just went over my application. i had to call and inquire about progress in order to get an appointment. the interviewing officer told me they had about 40+ applicants they where processing so i could expect a lengthy wait.

JRG351
11-12-2013, 4:37 PM
1 hour after my post I received a call from the Sheriffs department. My appointment is this Thursday.

JTecalo
11-12-2013, 5:41 PM
1 hour after my post I received a call from the Sheriffs department. My appointment is this Thursday.

Thumbs up!!!

Jim

JRG351
11-14-2013, 5:37 PM
Today's meeting went well it was to go over my application and to sign a couple of documents. Next I need to make an appointment at HPD to get finger printed for the background check. I was told that it may take up to 6 months to complete the process.

emtmark
11-14-2013, 5:59 PM
6mo for prints?! Live scan is done it like what? 5 hours? Man I am and am not looking forward to this :(


I know what this man needs, bring me the bourbon!
-CK Medic 538

JRG351
11-14-2013, 8:52 PM
No the live scan doesn't take 6 months that takes a hour. They have 40 plus
background checks to do. That is what will take the most time they call everyone you list in the application, and don't forget the psychological evaluation.

emtmark
11-15-2013, 10:11 AM
Balls



I know what this man needs, bring me the bourbon!
-CK Medic 538

JTecalo
11-16-2013, 7:58 AM
I see a pattern here.
We get all excited we may finally be able to get a permit, then they tell us it may be 6-7 months.

Schedule an interview, then tell us it may be 6 months to run the background check.

By the time we get to the psych test we've already gone all 5150 from the whole process. :D

emtmark
11-16-2013, 8:02 AM
So far ahead of that curve lol


I know what this man needs, bring me the bourbon!
-CK Medic 538

JRG351
11-18-2013, 9:30 AM
It’s not really an interview you are called in to go over the application and sign the documents that need to be witnessed by the Deputy. He said it could take up to 6 or 7 months, I think it may depend on where you are in the list of 40 plus applicants. There is only one investigator assigned to do the background checks and I’m sure it takes time to call everyone that is listed on the applications. I'm hoping that those in front of me have no siblings or friends so it will go quickly.

andy75
11-25-2013, 10:40 PM
can I ask how much is the cost so far, appl fee, ccw class, finger print, phys eval. what is the cost in SB for your full ccw package? thanks

JRG351
11-26-2013, 10:11 AM
The application process which includes the Live scan (finger printing) cost $240 that you pay when they hand you your CCW card. If for some reason you are refused a CCW card they don't charge you.

Not included:
CCW course $150
Psychological evaluation $150

I just had my live scan done this morning took about 5 minutes. Now I wait for the DOJ to run my background check and get the results to the Sheriffs dept.

JRG351
12-13-2013, 5:14 PM
In case any of you are interested in attending a CCW class you can contact David Matthews at 408-506-1884. David is very familiar with the San Benito CCW process.

There is a classs scheduled on January 4th and has been posted on the website.http://www.firearmtraininginstitute.com/index.htm

California CCW Classes are county-specific and we have authority to teach classes in Monterey County, Santa Cruz County, Alameda County, Yuba County, Sutter County, El Dorado County, Sacramento County, and San Joaquin County. Other Counties within California are being added as approved by the County Sheriff.

Hope to see some of you there.

acegunnr
12-13-2013, 5:27 PM
In case any of you are interested in attending a CCW class you can contact David Matthews at 408-506-1884. David is very familiar with the San Benito CCW process.

There is a classs scheduled on January 4th and has been posted on the website.http://www.firearmtraininginstitute.com/index.htm

California CCW Classes are county-specific and we have authority to teach classes in Monterey County, Santa Cruz County, Alameda County, Yuba County, Sutter County, El Dorado County, Sacramento County, and San Joaquin County. Other Counties within California are being added as approved by the County Sheriff.

Hope to see some of you there.

Can you take the class before you submit the application and have it count?

JRG351
12-13-2013, 5:28 PM
I believe yes, as long as you submit the application within 30 days of taking the course.

JRG351
12-13-2013, 5:30 PM
How many Front Sight Ambassador memberships do you have left?

JRG351
01-07-2014, 5:53 PM
I got an update today from the Sheriffs department that my background check came back from the DOJ and they are moving forward. I'm hoping this will be done by March :)

I submitted my application about 4 months ago and was told it may take another 4 to 5 months to complete.

surferscca
01-14-2014, 7:20 PM
Congrats. Glad to hear things are moving.

AirShark
01-30-2014, 11:13 AM
Hi all, I'll be applying soon here in San Benito County. I keep reading that the character reference letters may not be legal, but what is one to do? Is there some organization out there that talks to these agencies to let them know? Wish me luck.

JRG351
02-10-2014, 4:36 PM
CCW update: I'm about 6 months into this so far. I got a letter last week informing me that i have an appointment on Saturday Feb 22 to take the 500 question psych test. The letter stated that If i miss this date it may delay my application process. Sounds like fun after that I'm off to spend $150 with a psychologist.

I decided to see how much training i can do while i'm waiting for SBC Sheriffs department to complete my CCW application.

Since August of 2013 I have been able to complete the following.

Education, Training and Certifications:
• NRA Certified Pistol Instructor
• NRA Personal Protection outside the Home
• NRA Certified Range Safety Officer
• Handgun Safety Certificate Instructor
• California Concealed Firearm License (CCW) class. CCW permit in progress.•
• Front Sight, Defensive Handgun (2 day)
• CPR, First Aid and AED certified

I have provide copy of all certificate to my CCW coordinator to add to my file. Also I will be submitting a CCW course curriculum to SBC Sheriffs for approval to teach. I'm hoping that I will receive my CCW permit before they approve the curriculum.

I will update all of you after the psych test.

Jay

emtmark
02-10-2014, 6:28 PM
I'm excited for you buddy! I was talking with a medic friend who works and lives there who was flat out denied in person. He even has documented threats on his life from his days in Fresno. I'm hoping you fare better :) see if we can get this running a bit smoother.

JRG351
02-11-2014, 11:36 AM
Thanks emtmark

JRG351
02-27-2014, 6:56 PM
Last Saturday I took the psych exam with 5 other applicants. The test is 567 questions long all True/False. I'm schedule to see a psychologist in 2 weeks after that it's all down hill :)

AirShark
02-27-2014, 7:11 PM
Last Saturday I took the psych exam with 5 other applicants. The test is 567 questions long all True/False. I'm schedule to see a psychologist in 2 weeks after that it's all down hill :)

So how does that work? Take the multiple choice test one day, then come back to lay on the shrink's couch a few weeks later? Or do you just come back and discuss your results?

I ran into the sheriff at the gym tonight, but I didn't want to bombard him with questions in the parking lot.

JRG351
02-28-2014, 12:05 PM
You take the test in Hollister at the Sheriff’s department on a Saturday, when you finish the test you are given a time (your choice) and date (predetermined) for your appointment which in my case March 8th. I’m not sure what I will be asked my guess is that he/she will review my answers and ask me additional questions (I’m not sure if laying on a couch will be required but I will let you know). If all goes well with the meeting they will notify the CCW coordinator that I’m ok and the process continues to move forward.

JRG351
03-10-2014, 1:39 PM
Had my evaluation on Saturday it took about 45 to 50 minutes. I think it went well there didn't seem to be any trick questions. The Dr. will submit his report to the SB CCW coordinator today or tomorrow.

AirShark
03-10-2014, 2:26 PM
Had my evaluation on Saturday it took about 45 to 50 minutes. I think it went well there didn't seem to be any trick questions. The Dr. will submit his report to the SB CCW coordinator today or tomorrow.

Good to hear.

Was it mostly going over your test responses or was it a straight up shrink session as if you'd walked in the door with a problem?

emtmark
03-10-2014, 2:54 PM
May be covered in other threads but why is all this testing required? I understand that jumping the hoops is a reality at this point in space but I thought it was rendered moot by the state standards that are laid out.

AirShark
03-10-2014, 3:04 PM
May be covered in other threads but why is all this testing required? I understand that jumping the hoops is a reality at this point in space but I thought it was rendered moot by the state standards that are laid out.

It's allowed if the issuing authority:

1. Chooses to
2. Requires it of ALL applicants.

I think it's BS. I always wonder if they're looking for overt mental illness or if, say, someone talked to a counselor at a difficult time in their lives.

I don't like ambiguity in government and wish the process and standards were the same statewide.

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JRG351
03-10-2014, 5:56 PM
Good to hear.

Was it mostly going over your test responses or was it a straight up shrink session as if you'd walked in the door with a problem?

We didn't spend a lot of time going over the psych test. He asked specific questions like:

Why do you want a CCW permit.
What do you do for a living.
Do you have a gun safe.
Do you have small children in the house.
Do you have any children in the house.
What does your wife think about having guns in the house.
Can you kill someone.

It's still not over after the Dr. sends in my evaluation to the Sheriffs office, they still need to call my family and friends to complete the personal background check on me. Not sure how long i have to wait until they start that process. I have instructed everyone that i listed to make sure they return the call ASAP.

AirShark
03-10-2014, 6:00 PM
We didn't spend a lot of time going over the psych test. He asked specific questions like:

Why do you want a CCW permit.
What do you do for a living.
Do you have a gun safe.
Do you have small children in the house.
Do you have any children in the house.
What does your wife think about having guns in the house.
Can you kill someone.

That's actually surprising and very interesting.


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emtmark
03-10-2014, 10:49 PM
That last one is deceptive, anyone can kill somebody but I only wish to stop somebody from hurting or killing me or one of my family.

JRG351
03-11-2014, 4:17 PM
That last one is deceptive, anyone can kill somebody but I only wish to stop somebody from hurting or killing me or one of my family.

That's pretty much what i told him.

JRG351
03-31-2014, 2:33 PM
It's been a couple of weeks since my interview with the psychologist, haven't heard anything from the Sheriff’s department.

Hopefully no news is good news :)

emtmark
03-31-2014, 3:13 PM
We're all pulling for you

JRG351
03-31-2014, 3:46 PM
Thanks

JRG351
05-08-2014, 5:13 PM
I talked with the CCW coordinator today and he informed me that he has completed the personal background check (calling friends and family) on me and has submitted my application to the Sheriff today for review. He didn't see any reason why the Sheriff would reject it. So i wait for that final phone call.

JRG351
05-13-2014, 8:53 AM
I just received a call from the Sheriffs office to go down and sign my permit.

JRG351
05-13-2014, 9:47 AM
Thanks, it took 9 long months. But i will say that once they get to your application it does go fast.

JRG351
05-14-2014, 8:56 AM
I picked up my CCW permit this morning :D

surferscca
05-15-2014, 7:23 AM
Congrats man! Hopefully mine wont be far behind. :p

JRG351
05-15-2014, 10:25 AM
Thanks surferscca, have you done the Psychological evaluation yet?

surferscca
05-16-2014, 7:56 AM
Yes, I had mine the same day as you. I spoke with the sheriffs office and my app should be complete by the end of the month. :)

JRG351
05-16-2014, 8:59 AM
That's good news.

surferscca
06-09-2014, 3:21 PM
Got the call. I go down on Wednesday to pick up my license!

JRG351
06-11-2014, 9:50 AM
Thanks great news Congratulations!!

JRG351
06-23-2014, 2:13 PM
This thread just died is there anyone else working on their CCW???

JRG351
06-23-2014, 5:20 PM
I thought you did that months ago?

JRG351
06-24-2014, 4:37 PM
Get your paper work in and get the process started. It takes a while but the Sheriff is approving them.

JRG351
08-04-2014, 4:03 PM
This thread has been very quite. Has anyone else submitted their application?

Accounting_mom
01-24-2015, 3:23 PM
I applied in late September 2014. The initial interview happened pretty quickly. The interviewer was cordial and helpful. I received my preliminary letter soon after but now I am a part of the backlog of applications. There is just one part-time person assigned to the background checks so I anticipate a couple more months of waiting until my application gets his attention. He did encourage me to move ahead with the CCW class while I wait.

acegunnr
01-24-2015, 7:04 PM
I applied in late September 2014. The initial interview happened pretty quickly. The interviewer was cordial and helpful. I received my preliminary letter soon after but now I am a part of the backlog of applications. There is just one part-time person assigned to the background checks so I anticipate a couple more months of waiting until my application gets his attention. He did encourage me to move ahead with the CCW class while I wait.

Good luck and keep us posted. I have heard that a large number of applicants for San Benito have been women.

Paladin
02-16-2015, 1:01 PM
Hi surferscca,
When you pick up your packet there will be a section regarding character. follow that and you should be ok.

I tried using "Self defense and defense of my family" and i was told by the sheriffs dept that it was weak. They want to see something of value $$$$ I was given an opportunity to rewrite it and add in the valuable products that I transport in my vehicle for work. I turned it in last week and haven't heard from them.

Hope this helps.

Does anyone know if the sheriff is now accepting mere "self-defense" as sufficient GC? I ask because their CCW webpage (http://sbso.us/concealed-weapons-permits) now says:

The Sheriff’s Office is aware of the Peruta v. San Diego case recently heard in the Ninth Circuit U. S. Court of Appeals. We have evaluated the outcome and will continue to monitor the issue as it progresses. The standard of “good cause” varies from county to county, and recently has not been a roadblock to our applicants. Please continue to complete the full application packet to include your statement of good cause (emphasis added)

JRG351
02-25-2015, 4:14 PM
My suggestion is to call the CCW coordinator and ask him.

Paladin
03-03-2015, 10:55 AM
My suggestion is to call the CCW coordinator and ask him.
It would be nice if folks who actually live in San Benito Co did such legwork....

WarEagle
04-15-2015, 10:49 PM
I have a CCW from San Benito County issued in 2013. When I applied initially I used self defense as my good cause. During the interview process they questioned me about my job, if I carried valuables, money, etc. I do. They didn't ask me to re write my good cause but my gauge tells me that the follow up questions about what I do for work were relevant in the issuance of the permit.

DazedandConfuzed
05-02-2015, 6:15 PM
Does anyone know if primary residence is required to apply for ccw? I reside in Santa Clara co., but own a small tract of land in San Benito co. Thanks!

Accounting_mom
05-06-2015, 9:57 PM
I applied late September 2014 and did the LiveScan immediately. Had the CCW class and qualification in Feb, Psych test in March, Psych interview in April, references and family were called in April, and I picked up my license yesterday. About 7 months start to finish for someone with a boringly clean record. Patience and perseverance are key. It was a good experience and the wait time gave me a chance to study the forums here. Very educational...Thanks.

Paladin
05-10-2015, 8:40 AM
Does anyone know if primary residence is required to apply for ccw? I reside in Santa Clara co., but own a small tract of land in San Benito co. Thanks!
Your CCW (or not) is based upon your primary residence, not a vacation home and certainly not upon undeveloped land.

If you lie about your primary residence and get caught, besides other legal issues, you will be barred from getting a CCW even if we win Peruta/Richards (gutting GC requirement), due to you no longer having GMC.

BUT, you can legally change your primary residence to a small home you build on your SB land if you change things such as your residence for state and fed tax purposes, voting, DMV, bank statements (Do banks even mail those out anymore?), and other important mail/bills/correspondence, etc. Best to get advice from a lawyer before going this route. :oji:

Paladin
05-10-2015, 8:48 AM
I applied late September 2014 and did the LiveScan immediately. Had the CCW class and qualification in Feb, Psych test in March, Psych interview in April, references and family were called in April, and I picked up my license yesterday. About 7 months start to finish for someone with a boringly clean record. Patience and perseverance are key. It was a good experience and the wait time gave me a chance to study the forums here. Very educational...Thanks.
Congrats!

:party:

Be sure to encourage family, friends, coworkers, shooting buddies, etc. to apply and get their CCWs if they live in San Benito or other issuing counties.

If SB does not require both the psych test and psych interview of ALL applicants (reserve officers, "friends of the sheriff"/"posse" members/politicians), they are vulnerable to a 14th A Equal Protection lawsuit ala Guillory v. Gates/OC. :oji:

DazedandConfuzed
05-10-2015, 10:21 PM
Your CCW (or not) is based upon your primary residence, not a vacation home and certainly not upon undeveloped land.

If you lie about your primary residence and get caught, besides other legal issues, you will be barred from getting a CCW even if we win Peruta/Richards (gutting GC requirement), due to you no longer having GMC.

BUT, you can legally change your primary residence to a small home you build on your SB land if you change things such as your residence for state and fed tax purposes, voting, DMV, bank statements (Do banks even mail those out anymore?), and other important mail/bills/correspondence, etc. Best to get advice from a lawyer before going this route. :oji:


Thanks I appreciate the info and advise!

Moabtj
06-25-2015, 4:31 AM
Started my application in Nov of last year, simple process, sheriff department is back logged. :D:D:D:D

Paladin
06-25-2015, 7:14 AM
Started my application in Nov of last year, simple process, sheriff department is back logged. :D:D:D:D
Congrats!!!

:party:

Did you have to use more than mere "self-defense"/"personal protection" as your GC?

Be sure to encourage friends, family, shooting buds, etc to apply for theirs too.

OC Self Defense Group
07-14-2015, 6:54 PM
Has anyone been successful with the GC being "Any Lawful Purpose"? Recently? In Orange County?

Paladin
07-15-2015, 7:39 AM
Has anyone been successful with the GC being "Any Lawful Purpose"? Recently? In Orange County?
Hmm.

First off: welcome, CGN newbie! :)

Next, if you are asking about GC's that work in Orange Co, this is the San Benito Co thread. You want to ask OC Qs in the OC thread at:
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=352774

There is another thread in another forum where OC folk are discussing the OC sheriff's CCW practices as well at:
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=912905

Again, welcome and be sure to encourage your fellow OC'ers to look into getting CCWs as well.

hotelkorea
07-15-2015, 2:00 PM
I'm a washington resident living and working in California. My washington permit took two weeks and $ 55.00 from the first step in the office to in my wallet. I was going to apply for my california permit just to show others it can be done with some patience. And a good bit of money

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Paladin
07-15-2015, 5:15 PM
I'm a washington resident living and working in California. My washington permit took two weeks and $ 55.00 from the first step in the office to in my wallet. I was going to apply for my california permit just to show others it can be done with some patience. And a good bit of moneyThe part I underlined disqualifies you for a CA CCW. The city or county in which you apply for a CA CCW has to be your primary/permanent residence.

hotelkorea
07-15-2015, 5:16 PM
Yeah I'm looking into the laws. I was told my work allows for an exception.

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Paladin
07-15-2015, 5:27 PM
Yeah I'm looking into the laws. I was told my work allows for an exception.

:confused:

Your work cannot change state law....

You'll have to offer proof to the SO that your primary/permanent residence is in fact San Benito. They'll ask for things like CA DMV address, vehicle registration address, voting address, utilities/mortgage of your San Benito Co residence in your name. If you lie/deceive, that's more than a big "No, no" -- that's a crime.

Make sure you know what you're doing and weigh the risks to benefit ratio.... :oji:

hotelkorea
07-15-2015, 10:36 PM
Your absolutely right lying on an application would be stupid and criminal definetly not worth it. I've done the research. I'm just waiting for a day off to go to the sheriff's office and ask the right questions

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rdtompki
07-19-2015, 6:36 PM
I'm just about done filling out my application. Pretty simple actually. Should have it in to the Sheriff by Friday. Now with the depleted roster I've got to think about a handgun for CCW. Our FS 1911's won't cut it.

Paladin
07-27-2015, 1:08 PM
I applied late September 2014 and did the LiveScan immediately. Had the CCW class and qualification in Feb, Psych test in March, Psych interview in April, references and family were called in April, and I picked up my license yesterday. About 7 months start to finish for someone with a boringly clean record. Patience and perseverance are key. It was a good experience and the wait time gave me a chance to study the forums here. Very educational...Thanks.
Can you tell us (w/o giving so much detail as to ID you), what your Good Cause statement was like?

rdtompki
07-27-2015, 1:47 PM
I turned in my application today so we'll see how it goes. I listed one of our M&Ps on the DOJ form, but I'll hold off getting something smaller until I get confirmation that my "good cause" statement gets accepted. I've had a "boring" existence so it all depends on the criteria the Sheriff is applying.

If the threshold criteria requires a higher than normal threat environment then most of use are doomed CCW-wise. I'd wear a seatbelt even if the law didn't mandate same; heck, I wear a seatbelt on commercial flights all the time. I do so not because I fear and accident, but because it's common sense to mitigate against high consequence events when it takes so little effort.

Good luck to all with their applications in the queue.

Paladin
07-27-2015, 8:26 PM
I turned in my application today so we'll see how it goes. I listed one of our M&Ps on the DOJ form, but I'll hold off getting something smaller until I get confirmation that my "good cause" statement gets accepted. I've had a "boring" existence so it all depends on the criteria the Sheriff is applying.

If the threshold criteria requires a higher than normal threat environment then most of use are doomed CCW-wise. I'd wear a seatbelt even if the law didn't mandate same; heck, I wear a seatbelt on commercial flights all the time. I do so not because I fear and accident, but because it's common sense to mitigate against high consequence events when it takes so little effort.

Good luck to all with their applications in the queue.
And good luck to you! :thumbsup:

You sound like me: avoiding situations where trouble is likely to occur. I enjoy living a peaceful, low-drama, "boring" life!

Be sure to update us here on your progress.

Accounting_mom
07-27-2015, 8:34 PM
Palladin: I used self defense plus I am on the road alone quite a bit, trips to remote areas and I have had some scary encounters while out there. No longer young and pretty, but a perceived "soft target" for the wackos, truck thieves or horse thieves nevertheless.

rdtompki
07-28-2015, 7:31 AM
Anyone know if our county submits the DOJ application as soon as received? The reason I ask is that the FS M&P on my application is not what I would carry, but I don't want to buy a compact or sub-compact unless I know the Sheriff has accepted my "good cause". And I sure wouldn't want to take a CCW class with something I wasn't going to carry. (I do have a call into the CCW coordinator as well).

Update: Spoke with the CCW coordinator and no problem subsequently adding a gun. Just need to work the gun problem in time to put 1000 rounds down range before the CCW class which is probably 5 months from now. I'll also need to have the gun in hand in order to work up a practice load that is closer to factory; our steel challenge loads are very soft.
7/23/15 - Submitted App
7/28/15 - Received call to schedule interview (7/30). CCW coordinator sounds like a nice guy.
8/6/15 - Interview
8/7/15 - Livescan appointment - after which the wait begins
11/13/15- The wait continues.
12/15/15 - Contacted the IA. he initially said it's taking a while to hear back, but followed up and DOJ has no record of a Livescan request. turns out the Livescan computer at the local Jail is old and they sometimes have problem submitting Livescans. After two tries the computer has a nasty habit of deleting the data.
1/15/16 - redid the Livescan. Ive lost 5 months. At least this wasn't a DOJ conspiracy.

Accounting_mom
07-29-2015, 9:07 PM
rdtomki: i saw your post in another section asking about the three letters of reference required. Request letters from reputable people who can address your character, temperament and self-control honestly and favorably. Expect that they will be called and interviewed on the phone. Also expect that your spouse/family will be called and asked about your suitability, home gun storage practices, legal problems, etc. The two phone interviews I got feedback on were pretty informal and both parties enjoyed talking to the interviewer. Good luck.

rdtompki
08-05-2015, 9:20 PM
Can those who have taken CCW training from one of the San Benito County listed individuals post their impressions in this thread? The forum dedicated to training is all over the place.

Actual training requirements appear to be minimal in terms of the firearm, itself, the legal aspects being foremost, but I was a bit surprised that one of the classes was 4 hours and 20 rounds.

JRG351
08-07-2015, 9:30 AM
I took my CCW course from Dave Matthews. I highly recommend Dave he is very familiar with the San Benito CCW process.
The class i took ended up to be 9 hours which went fast, also Dave will not end the course or leave the range until everyone qualifies.
I checked the website http://www.firearmtraininginstitute.com/index.htm for classes and didn't see any scheduled.
Contact Dave (408-506-1884) to see if he has any classes planned.

Accounting_mom
08-09-2015, 7:58 AM
"Can those who have taken CCW training from one of the San Benito County listed individuals post their impressions in this thread? The forum dedicated to training is all over the place"

I took mine from Wayne Summers at Coyote Clays. It was a good experience. The qualifying required 50 rounds fired for each handgun you want to list on your permit, at varying distances with time limits. I don't recall the % accuracy required. Anyway I think this exceeds the Sheriff's minimum standards and I like that. It was fun and challenging.

I have taken other handgun classes from him too. He is low key, professional and very safety conscious.

rdtompki
08-11-2015, 8:06 PM
I don't doubt there is a backlog and I'm sure the Sheriff's office is on a tight budget, but I'm wondering why we don't hear more from backlog members in this thread. Calguns.net is the go-to place for California gun owners and, specifically, this thread is the go-to place for those SB denizens in the CCW queue.

rdtompki
08-17-2015, 5:21 PM
I believe our county is 20 or 30 rounds and I also believe the max distance is 15 yards. How many rounds and time per string at each distance? Assume this is done from the draw? How large is the scoring area, A-zone size?
Thanks,

sf49ers68
10-19-2015, 11:36 AM
Hey guys. I applied for SBC CCW last week and I was able to do the Sheriffs interview when I dropped off the application. During "interview" the Sheriff goes through your application and has you sign several pages. When I filled out my reason for wanting a CCW I wrote to protect myself and family. Interviewer said that works but hinted that I should add more to it. Asked me if I like hunting and camping so I added that to my reason for wanting a CCW. I did my livescan fingerprints the next day at the county jail. I need to get a DMV driving record printout turned in which I plan on doing today. Sheriff said it has been taking around 6 months to get permit and they get about 80 applications per year. I will post updates through the process.

rdtompki
12-17-2015, 5:37 AM
Sent an e-mail to Capt. Lamonica, listed as the IA POC on the SBC website, asking him if he had any info on the current DOJ cycle time. It's been four months for me which is not excessive, but doesn't hurt to ask. After all, how long does it take to find absolutely nothing. All DOJ has to do is call the Chinese and get a copy of the latest SF-86; they have everything. If they have hacked OPM, they certainly have hacked the CA DOJ. I'll post back what the good Captain has to say.

Final Status - Livescan computer dumped last August. I've redone the Livescan but lost 5 months.

rdtompki
01-27-2016, 7:41 PM
Wife dropped the application off, had the interview and has the Livescan request in hand. Not bad for a day's work. Eventually, she'll need an appropriate handgun. She only has 9mm 1911s, a Kimber Pro Carry HD II in 38 Super and 9mm M&P. The ideal gun would be an alloy Commander 1911 in 9mm (or 45 ACP for that matter), but there is nothing on the roster. The Kimber is a nice gone (once it gets back from Kimber warranty land), but it's heavy. She has more than 25K rounds through her full-size 1911 so it's a platform with which she is very familiar.