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obeygiant
10-14-2010, 11:14 PM
How may I apply for a concealed weapons permit?

Applications for concealed weapon permit can be obtained and are processed at the Imperial County Sheriff’s Office Records Unit. For information on requirements please go to the FORM section and click on ICSO CCW Requirements. Questions may be directed to (760) 339 6345.

From:
http://www.icso.org/records/records-faq/

J.D.Allen
10-18-2010, 4:23 PM
:gunsmilie:Let's kick this pig!!!

obeygiant
10-18-2010, 4:43 PM
:gunsmilie:Let's kick this pig!!!

Do you currently live in Imperial County? Did you volunteer already?

J.D.Allen
10-20-2010, 3:55 PM
No. I live in Yuma, AZ which neighbors Imperial county. I work most of the time in Imperial county and reside part time in San Diego county though. Yes, I volunteered.
:cool2:

obeygiant
12-15-2010, 12:21 AM
Imperial County CCW Packet updated to include:

"Concealed Weapon License Renewal Up-Date Information Form"
"Imperial County Sheriff’s Office Carrying A Concealed Weapon Requirements - 4/7/09"

Updated CCW Packet can be found Here (http://calgunsfoundation.org/index.php/resources/ccw-initiative/101-imperial)

Glock21sfsd
08-30-2011, 3:57 PM
So I am going to be moving to El Centro/Brawley area and was wondering if I have any better chance of getting a CCW there than in San Diego. I am thinking not after reading the info available for imperial county requiring 3 character ref. letters and psych testing. I though both of those requirements were illegal.

rogerdo
12-23-2014, 9:44 PM
Anyone know of any changes?

Paladin
06-21-2015, 3:20 PM
Just went to the SO's website and looks like no mention of CCWs.... :gene:
http://www.icso.org/

Sheriff Loera must think we're still in the 1990s.

http://www.icso.org/images/loera.jpg

lexbizket
06-26-2015, 2:53 PM
http://icso.org/CCW_requirements_modified.pdf

Direct link to application.

Paladin
06-26-2015, 11:59 PM
http://icso.org/CCW_requirements_modified.pdf

Direct link to application.

I wonder why he hides it? :rolleyes:

Maybe this has something to do with it (emphasis in original):

2. The Applicant shall submit three (3) letters of reference: One (1) CHARACTER REFERENCE LETTER; from an active peace officer, (must be an active California peace officer such as, California Highway Patrol, Sheriff’s Deputy, Police Officer, or Fish & Game Warden – who lives and works within the Imperial County) and Two (2) CHARACTER REFERENCE LETTERS from individuals, other than relatives, who live in the Imperial County

*** THE FOLLOWING CANNOT WRITE THE PEACE OFFICER REFERENCE LETTER ***
U.S. Custom, U.S. Border Patrol, Department of Corrections / Prisons

and, of course (emphasis in original):

7. IMPORTANT INFORMATION – Interview process
You will be required to provide just cause and meet the necessary prerequisites as described on the CCW application, before your application can be considered. Upon completion of your first interview your application will be forwarded to the Sheriff for his final decision.

Moto_Reggie_2m
07-09-2015, 8:04 PM
ccw's in imperial valley are a myth. Unless you are a wealthy farmer or have a good last name, you have no chance.

Paladin
07-09-2015, 8:50 PM
ccw's in imperial valley are a myth. Unless you are a wealthy farmer or have a good last name, you have no chance.

Yes, they definitely are restrictive on both GC and GMC. But, if you/someone really wants a CCW and has $$$, you can hire a lawyer and/or investigator and see if they in fact are consistently applying the below requirements to ALL applicants. If not, the below explains how the sheriff is vulnerable to a Guillory federal civil rights lawsuit.

I wonder why he hides it? :rolleyes:

Maybe this has something to do with it (emphasis in original):

2. The Applicant shall submit three (3) letters of reference: One (1) CHARACTER REFERENCE LETTER; from an active peace officer, (must be an active California peace officer such as, California Highway Patrol, Sheriff’s Deputy, Police Officer, or Fish & Game Warden – who lives and works within the Imperial County) and Two (2) CHARACTER REFERENCE LETTERS from individuals, other than relatives, who live in the Imperial County

*** THE FOLLOWING CANNOT WRITE THE PEACE OFFICER REFERENCE LETTER ***
U.S. Custom, U.S. Border Patrol, Department of Corrections / Prisons

and, of course (emphasis in original):

7. IMPORTANT INFORMATION – Interview process
You will be required to provide just cause and meet the necessary prerequisites as described on the CCW application, before your application can be considered. Upon completion of your first interview your application will be forwarded to the Sheriff for his final decision.

I posed the below in the Monterey Co thread, but it applies equally here. If someone is determined to get a CCW in Imperial Co, this method is probably the best way of doing it. The relevant cases are CBS v. Block (for PRA requests), Salute v. Pitchess (requiring the IA to exercise their discretion), and Guillory v. Gates/Co of Orange (14th A Equal Protection attack).

So, they say SD = GC, but then push GMC through the roof and, it appears, make your RKBA subject to your neighbors', co-workers' and friends' ratification.... :facepalm: :mad:

If Bernal does NOT follow this same procedure with ALL CCW applicants (think political donors, "friends of the sheriff"/"posse" members, politicians, celebrities), he's open for a Guillory-type 14th A Equal Protection federal lawsuit, but for GMC rather than GC.

Hypothetically, let's say there's a world-famous film star (and director) who lives in (and was once the mayor of) Carmel-By-The-Sea, a city which, acc to CGF's 2013 survey, does not issue CCWs. We'll call him "Mr. E." Let's suppose Mr. E has a Monterey SO CCW. When it is/was time to renew, if the sheriff has the same policy for renewals that means his "background investigator" would have to go to Mr. E's neighbors (who, unlike his friends, may be hard-core antis), and "ask them if they would recommend [Mr. E] be issued a CCW permit." Not only would the same procedure have to be followed, but the same standard as to judging whether to issue or not be followed. IOW, let's say 1 of your neighbors says "Nyet!" when asked if you should get a CCW and because of that you are denied. If 1 of Mr. E's neighbors also said "No!" and yet was issued, that too is a 14th A Equal Protection violation.

Moto_Reggie_2m
07-09-2015, 9:07 PM
Paladin, you reply is very useful.
But at the end of the day, most people in the valley cannot get a letter from a LEO and constitute and good cause to satisfy the sheriffs dept.
There are so may hoops of fire to jump through. Oh how i envy Arizona.

Paladin
07-09-2015, 9:15 PM
Paladin, you reply is very useful.
But at the end of the day, most people in the valley cannot get a letter from a LEO and constitute and good cause to satisfy the sheriffs dept.
There are so may hoops of fire to jump through. It is only because of the ongoing drama w/Peruta and now SCOTUS that I even bring up the old "Team Billy Jack" lawsuit approach for those with both the determination and resources to pursue such action in hardcore anti counties.

For the vast majority of us with anti sheriffs, our only hope is replacing the sheriff or Peruta or another Carry Case. :(