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obeygiant
10-14-2010, 11:07 PM
UPDATE 2015 Oct 03: Because of post #37 below, I'm adding a "thumbs up" symbol for Amador. Paladin

Self defense was not enough. The under sheriff and I had a long discussion on what he wanted. One of the things he mentioned was having to go to Sacramento for a It's appt or shopping or work or school or...... And you want to have protection for you and or your family since you go to a bad part of town... Me, I hit the bank almost daily to deposit customer checks, standing at the atm in the evening can be daunting. Just explain your self. They take self defense but not in those words. Explain your self over and above.

MP301
12-06-2010, 2:18 AM
:gene: I wonder how many Calgunners there are in this county?

Kid Stanislaus
12-07-2010, 2:02 AM
Probably not many with a total county population of about 56!!

CenterX
12-08-2010, 10:13 PM
10 rounds on a B27 target in 18 seconds from 15 yards (48ft) seems a bit edgy for the range of a belt to belly snubby, and questionable regarding to distance between threat and retreat. I wonder how many of the 56 are packing?

fullrearview
12-11-2010, 1:43 AM
:gene: I wonder how many Calgunners there are in this county?

Former A/C kid here! I miss it!:(

I can think of 4 or 5 if I still get to be included.

3GunFunShooter
12-13-2010, 10:51 AM
A lot more than you think! LOL!
Their Friend of the NRA dinner is always sold out and is one of the top 25 fund raiser for the program.
$ raised per attendee.

MP301
12-13-2010, 2:49 PM
Former A/C kid here! I miss it!:(

I can think of 4 or 5 if I still get to be included.

Yes, you still get to ber included!

I think I like the Carson Valley area better though....

fullrearview
12-13-2010, 4:11 PM
Yes, you still get to ber included!

I think I like the Carson Valley area better though....

Its not bad.....But I can't find a basketball team to save my life! Open gym four days a week, but leagues but have been cut.

MP301
03-27-2011, 10:01 PM
Hmmm... Did I get an ally for Amador? You rock Jay!

shooter74
03-27-2011, 10:11 PM
MP301 your killing me

First a Front Sight Membership and now a Amador CCW sponsorship . Your a bad influence on my pocket book

MP301
03-27-2011, 10:15 PM
Haha, Im not done with you yet. :p

ccwtrainer
05-02-2011, 7:51 PM
For anyone who hasn't yet heard, the Amador County Sheriff's Department has revised their CCW range qualification requirements to the following:


5 yards - shoot 5 rounds, reload, shoot five more rounds (12 seconds)
10 yards - shoot 5 rounds, reload, shoot 5 more rounds (15 seconds)
15 yards- shoot 5 rounds standing, reload, shoot 5 more rounds kneeling (18 seconds)

All of this is to be done on an NRA B27 target (or similar) and all 30 rounds must be in the "target zone". I just verified with Undersheriff Wegner that the "target zone" is considered to be anywhere in the body silhouette.

Due to the number of renewal applicants who are having trouble passing this course (the time more so than the accuracy), I am holding renewal courses that combine my standard 4 hour renewal course with my 4 hour pistol proficiency course. This is a nice added benefit for anyone looking to renew or anyone who's wanting to enhance their pistol proficiency skills.

Here's a link to my course description: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?p=6320522#post6320522

As always, feel free to contact me if you have any questions - (209) 401-0907.

CowboyShooter
06-16-2011, 12:48 PM
New Amador County resident checking in...

Also planning to go through the CCW application process, glad to find some good info resources here. Thanks to CGF for all of the work on our
behalf!!!

:D

CEDaytonaRydr
09-14-2012, 2:30 PM
Yeah, I'm an A/C ex-pat as well. No work up there, unfortunately. Love to get back up there every chance I get. I have family there.

ke6buu
04-20-2015, 10:25 PM
Last week I turned my application. I will update current lead times and updates.

mvinciguerra
04-25-2015, 10:02 PM
I turned in my application last month 03/2015, when I did the lady told me it would take the full 90 days before I hear from them.

ke6buu
04-26-2015, 4:16 PM
Did they give you a receipt? The guy did not collect my money or want to verify serial numbers. I found it odd as my paperwork was in order. When I asked to pay him he said you will get a letter in the mail from the undersheriff with what to do next.

mvinciguerra
04-30-2015, 8:17 AM
Once they approve all your paperwork, they call you to come in for a live scan, thats when you pay.

Ferrum
05-07-2015, 4:55 PM
Updates? I turned mine in last month, still waiting. I have a current CCW in Sac County (was told it's still valid for 90 days), so I am hoping they don't take the full 90.

mvinciguerra
05-09-2015, 5:55 PM
I have yet to hear anything, 6-16-2015 will be the 90th day. The lady I turned my paperwork into was very clear "It will take ALL 90 days before you hear from us". I asked how they would respond and she said they would probably call me to have me come in for my live scan.

CEDaytonaRydr
06-05-2015, 8:13 PM
No relation to Austin Vinciguerra, are you..?

mvinciguerra
06-08-2015, 9:24 AM
Yes, Austin is my cousin.

Ferrum
06-14-2015, 5:13 PM
Have you heard back from SO yet?

mvinciguerra
06-18-2015, 4:28 PM
The 16th was my 90th day and I did not hear from them. Today I went to the SO to turn in my application to join their SAR team and ask about my CCW. The lady who looked into it told me "its on the under sheriffs desk waiting for him to review, so just whenever he gets to it, ok" I said "ok, thank you" smiled at the lady and left. Not really sure what to do now, guess I just have to wait longer.

Ferrum
06-22-2015, 6:40 PM
The 16th was my 90th day and I did not hear from them. Today I went to the SO to turn in my application to join their SAR team and ask about my CCW. The lady who looked into it told me "its on the under sheriffs desk waiting for him to review, so just whenever he gets to it, ok" I said "ok, thank you" smiled at the lady and left. Not really sure what to do now, guess I just have to wait longer.

Yeah... not a lot of communication from them. Kind of bizarre...

I'm still about 3 weeks from my 90 days, so hopefully the sheriff gets yours off his desk, so he can get to mine.

Ferrum
07-08-2015, 5:47 PM
mvinciguerra, have you heard anything yet?

ke6buu
08-24-2015, 2:39 PM
120 days has come and gone. Still no approval and they still need to run my live scan. I'll be lucky if I get my CCW by years end.

Ferrum
08-25-2015, 10:14 PM
I got a call from the under sheriff back in July saying he had to respond within the 90 days, so he was calling to let me know it was in process. He said they were short staffed and were going through them as quick as the could. From that point, it's been quiet.

CEDaytonaRydr
08-26-2015, 12:09 PM
Yes, Austin is my cousin.

I was a few years ahead of him in school. Small town... ;)

ke6buu
09-13-2015, 8:33 PM
Has anybody had any communication with the S.O.?

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Ferrum
09-17-2015, 8:41 AM
Has anybody had any communication with the S.O.?

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Nothing here... All quiet. My guess is that this process will drag out even longer with the fires. I imagine they are stretched pretty thin.

ke6buu
09-21-2015, 8:26 PM
Well there is hope for y'all. I called the S.O. today. I talked to the under sheriff's office and she was shocked on how long I had been waiting. Short story long, I was approved and I have an appointment for livescan.

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Ferrum
09-24-2015, 1:05 PM
Well there is hope for y'all. I called the S.O. today. I talked to the under sheriff's office and she was shocked on how long I had been waiting. Short story long, I was approved and I have an appointment for livescan.

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That's positive.... Maybe I'll call today then.

ke6buu
10-01-2015, 11:05 AM
Well there is hope for y'all. I called the S.O. today. I talked to the under sheriff's office and she was shocked on how long I had been waiting. Short story long, I was approved and I have an appointment for livescan.

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Had my appointment this morning. Everything went well. Live scan happened Serial Numbers verified, money paid. Now it is 3 1/2 month wait for DOJ. As soon as Erin gets the Letter from Sacramento (DOJ) she will issue my permit. Looking at January 15th. 8 Months after my initial application went it.

Paladin
10-01-2015, 11:02 PM
Well there is hope for y'all. I called the S.O. today. I talked to the under sheriff's office and she was shocked on how long I had been waiting. Short story long, I was approved and I have an appointment for livescan.
W/o giving so much detail so as to ID yourself, can you share w/us what your Good Cause statement was like? Was merely "self-defense" sufficient?

Ferrum
10-03-2015, 8:59 AM
8 months is unreal....

ke6buu
10-03-2015, 9:54 PM
W/o giving so much detail so as to ID yourself, can you share w/us what your Good Cause statement was like? Was merely "self-defense" sufficient?
Self defense was not enough. The under sheriff and I had a long discussion on what he wanted. One of the things he mentioned was having to go to Sacramento for a It's appt or shopping or work or school or...... And you want to have protection for you and or your family since you go to a bad part of town... Me, I hit the bank almost daily to deposit customer checks, standing at the atm in the evening can be daunting. Just explain your self. They take self defense but not in those words. Explain your self over and above.

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Paladin
10-04-2015, 10:37 AM
Self defense was not enough. The under sheriff and I had a long discussion on what he wanted. One of the things he mentioned was having to go to Sacramento for a It's appt or shopping or work or school or...... And you want to have protection for you and or your family since you go to a bad part of town... Me, I hit the bank almost daily to deposit customer checks, standing at the atm in the evening can be daunting. Just explain your self. They take self defense but not in those words. Explain your self over and above.
Thx. I've updated the OP and added a "thumbs up" to encourage Amador's law-abiding residents to apply.

Ferrum
10-06-2015, 9:31 AM
Got a live scan appointment today.

Ferrum
10-21-2015, 11:39 PM
Got a live scan appointment today.

Live scan complete, fees paid, sit and wait for my new permit. The person told me to expect the live scan to take close to 3 months... I don't think I've ever had one take that long. Either way, as soon as the results come back, they mail the permit out (you sign and thumb print your permit at the live scan appointment).

I will say that Amador has been very easy to do, but my Sacramento CCW was a much more streamlined process.

Bill1957
10-22-2015, 6:53 AM
Ferrum, when did you start the process? I'm in the process of doing my Arizona permit. If Amador is taking a year or so it won't work for me. Most likely moving to AZ in 1.5 years.

Ferrum
10-22-2015, 9:45 PM
Ferrum, when did you start the process? I'm in the process of doing my Arizona permit. If Amador is taking a year or so it won't work for me. Most likely moving to AZ in 1.5 years.

I turned mine application in April. I'll update start to finish times, as soon as the permit hits my mailbox.

Bill1957
10-23-2015, 11:34 AM
I turned mine application in April. I'll update start to finish times, as soon as the permit hits my mailbox.


So it looks like nine months or so for you. I wonder if knowing a few sheriffs there personally if I could get it done faster.

Bill1957
11-13-2015, 3:10 PM
How much are the fees for Amador? Do they require you qualify with all guns on the permit? Can my wife's gun be on my permit? The sheriffs website is horrible. Half the links on the ccw page don't work. I'm planning on turning in my application next Friday. Can you have more than three guns?

Parker2020
11-13-2015, 3:47 PM
I don't remember the exact cost of the initial CCW application but the renewal fee is $57 and valid for 2 years . You have to re-qualify every 2 years with the guns listed on your permit . The CCW qualification class I have used only allows you to qualify with 2 weapons but I am not sure if this is the rule of the particular instructor I used or the Sheriff.

ke6buu
12-28-2015, 5:58 PM
Had my appointment this morning. Everything went well. Live scan happened Serial Numbers verified, money paid. Now it is 3 1/2 month wait for DOJ. As soon as Erin gets the Letter from Sacramento (DOJ) she will issue my permit. Looking at January 15th. 8 Months after my initial application went it.

Done Deal. Permit arrived in today's mail. Post marked the 22nd and I picked up mail on Thursday.

Ferrum
01-07-2016, 1:44 PM
How much are the fees for Amador? Do they require you qualify with all guns on the permit? Can my wife's gun be on my permit? The sheriffs website is horrible. Half the links on the ccw page don't work. I'm planning on turning in my application next Friday. Can you have more than three guns?

No more than three guns and I am not 100% sure about a gun registered to your wife?

I don't remember the exact cost of the initial CCW application but the renewal fee is $57 and valid for 2 years . You have to re-qualify every 2 years with the guns listed on your permit . The CCW qualification class I have used only allows you to qualify with 2 weapons but I am not sure if this is the rule of the particular instructor I used or the Sheriff.

I'm going to say your instructor. I did three guns in my class and listed all three on the permit.

Done Deal. Permit arrived in today's mail. Post marked the 22nd and I picked up mail on Thursday.

Still waiting.... :oji:

ke6buu
01-08-2016, 9:00 PM
No more than three guns and I am not 100% sure about a gun registered to your wife?



I'm going to say your instructor. I did three guns in my class and listed all three on the permit.



Still waiting.... :oji:
3 weeks before I was told it would be here. That's a good sign.

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Ferrum
01-16-2016, 11:36 PM
Got mine today. I will update the time frames next week.

One thing I did notice, which I think I'm going to write a clarification letter about, is there is a blanket restriction on the permit about being in school zones. I understand the legislation and understand that that legislation has an exception that makes concealed carry legal when the school district allows or grants permission.

So, if the school district allows concealed carry, is the opportunity to carry at a school nullified by the restriction on the permit? I'm going to ask...

Bill1957
01-17-2016, 8:41 AM
Congrats!!!


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GlockN'Roll
01-17-2016, 11:15 AM
Got mine today.

I will update the time frames next week.

One thing I did notice, which I think I'm going to write a clarification letter about, is there is a blanket restriction on the permit about being in school zones. I understand the legislation and understand that that legislation has an exception that makes concealed carry legal when the school district allows or grants permission.

So, if the school district allows concealed carry, is the opportunity to carry at a school nullified by the restriction on the permit? I'm going to ask...

Congrats! :cheers2::party::cheers2:

Did I understand correctly, that you picked it up on a Saturday?

Ferrum
01-28-2016, 12:30 PM
Did I understand correctly, that you picked it up on a Saturday?

Yes, I received it Saturday, via US Mail. When they get the results of the live scan, the SO mails it out.

Recap:
4-23-15 Initial App
8-25-15 Call for SO acknowledging app
10-21-15 Live scan and interview
1-16-16 Received permit via US Mail

Total time, 8 months and 24 days.

Thoughts...

This is the second county I have had a CCW in, the previous being Sacramento (initial and 2 renewals there). Pro's and Con's list below, when compared to Sacramento County.

Pro's for Amador:
- Easy application process. They essentially let you know that once you apply, you will get a permit, as long as you have a clean back ground.
- Laid back interview process.
- Generally always someone available to answer questions, if you call.
- No appointment necessary for permit modifications, they can be done over the counter.
- Renewals are over the counter if the appropriate paperwork is complete.

Con's for Amador:
- Time frame. I want to say my initial app with Sac was real close to half of the time. Understandably, Amador is a small county and doesn't have the resources Sac does, but almost 9 months is a drag.
- Unless you call, you won't know where you are at in the process. There is no other way to get an update on status and the communication is pretty one way.

All in all a pleasant process, just requires a lot of patience. Hats off the the Sheriff for his issuance policy and ease of getting a permit.

On a final note, most permits come with a list of restrictions. One of them has to do with SB707... The statement essentially says that you may not carry at schools and university grounds. In my opinion, this nullifies carry in those districts that giver permission for concealed carry. I will be following up for clarification on this issue.