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Addax
10-11-2010, 1:40 PM
Hey Folks,

Just want to let you all know that something is in the works with Arsenal, and making Off List, California Compliant AK rifles with a Magazine Lock device, and 10 round magazines.

Addax Tactical will be one of the dealers supplying these rifles to our fellow Californians:D

I cannot divulge to much info. at this time, but I can say that things are in the works.

We have been speaking with Arsenal for the past couple of months, and providing them some info. regarding California.

More details to be released soon.

Thanks,
Chris

lehn20
10-22-2010, 5:34 PM
Awesome. I am in, if they are the same quality as their other rifles

Addax
10-22-2010, 11:40 PM
Awesome. I am in, if they are the same quality as their other rifles

The first series of CA compliant rifles from Arsenal are the SGL-23-61 Saiga Rifles in 7.62x39 or 5.45 (SGL-33-61)

We are already starting to take pre-orders for the SGL-23-61 CA Compliant 7.62x39 Rifle.

SGL-23-61 At Addax Tactical (http://adxtactical.com/store/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=1706&idcategory=191)

We offer a Calguns.net Discount.:D

Chris

Addax
10-26-2010, 11:42 AM
We just added the SGL-33-61 5.45x39 CA Compliant Arsenal AK74 rifle to our website.

Arsenal SGL-33-61 5.45x39 CA Compliant AK74 Rifle at Addax Tactical
(http://www.adxtactical.com/store/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=1710&idcategory=191)
We are currently taking pre-release orders.

I spoke to Arsenal Inc. yesterday, and they said that the CA compliant rifles are currently in production.

We currently anticipate a 30-45 day ETA from Arsenal Inc.

We will also be adding some of the SA and SAM Milled CA Compliant AK rifles to our website very soon, for those who want the top end Arsenal CA Compliant Rifles.

Please let us know if you have any questions.

Thanks,
Chris

Addax
10-26-2010, 10:41 PM
We have both the 7.62x39 and 5.45x39 Arsenal SGL CA Compliant models listed on our website in our Rifle section:

Click here for Rifles at Addax Tactical (http://www.adxtactical.com/store/pc/viewCategories.asp?idCategory=191)

We are currently taking Pre-Release Orders for these rifles.

We are offering a discount for any Pre-Release Orders for the new Arsenal SGL CA Compliant Rifles.

Please contact us for more information and details.

Thank you,
Chris

shooterdave
10-27-2010, 10:40 AM
how will the magazine be fixed on the new CA ok arsenals?

OTFL
10-27-2010, 4:00 PM
Addax I am pretty interested in the SGL-23-61 but cannot find any info on it anywhere including the arsenal site. Please shoot me some more info on it.

Addax
10-27-2010, 4:18 PM
Addax I am pretty interested in the SGL-23-61 but cannot find any info on it anywhere including the arsenal site. Please shoot me some more info on it.

SGL-23-61 at Addax Tactical (http://www.adxtactical.com/store/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=1706&idcategory=191)

I have linked the info. posted on our website.

Basically, I understand that the SGL-23-61 is just like the SGL-21 listed on the Arsenal Inc. website: Arsenal SGL-21 (http://arsenalinc.com/sgl21.htm), but the key differences are a CA Compliant Magazine locking device, and 10 round magazine.

I do not have any pics yet, and I have requested pics and more info. from Arsenal Inc. and they will forward the pics etc. to me as soon as they have them ready.

Addax
10-27-2010, 4:24 PM
how will the magazine be fixed on the new CA ok arsenals?

My understanding is that they are coming up with a magazine locking device.

We showed the folks at Arsenal the Raddlock AK lock, and they researched several other types of locks, and decided to come up with their own design.

I have not seen the actual mag lock yet, but we suggested that the magazine locking device have a provision to be able to use a tool to disassemble the magazine from the receiver (like a Raddlock or Bulletbutton).

I have called Arsenal Inc. this afternoon to find out more about the new magazine locking device.

Addax
10-27-2010, 5:49 PM
how will the magazine be fixed on the new CA ok arsenals?

Just got off the phone with the guys at Arsenal Inc.

The new Magazine Lock they are working on will utilize a special key-tool to remove / disassemble the 10 round magazine from the receiver (like other magazine locking devices), or you can use a something like a screw driver, but they say their key-tool is much better than using a screw driver.

Addax
10-27-2010, 5:51 PM
There will also be a .410 shotgun model available very soon for the California market.

More details to follow on this model soon.

Chris

Bonecrusher
10-27-2010, 7:39 PM
Chris,


Do you have an estimate on when you'll be accepting Pre-Release Orders for the SA and SAM Milled CA Compliant AK rifles on your website?

Thanks,
Ron

Addax
10-27-2010, 11:22 PM
Chris,


Do you have an estimate on when you'll be accepting Pre-Release Orders for the SA and SAM Milled CA Compliant AK rifles on your website?

Thanks,
Ron

Arsenal has told me that they plan on first releasing the SGL CA compliant rifles, then the SA, SAM milled CA Compliant rifles.

As soon as I get word from Arsenal on the CA Compliant SA and SAM rifles, I will be announcing this on Calguns.

I hope the milled receiver CA compliant rifles will be available in the next couple of months.

Chris

teg767
10-31-2010, 10:56 AM
Glad to read this good news regarding Arsenal's decision to send their products direct to our ADDAX. Months ago, the climate was so different and I've read post threads regarding Arsenal's instructions to their out of state dealers. Good way to convince them with both BB idea and off the list chart. More than happy to see if they place a " California compliant rifles available " sign on their website meantime we wait for "two weeks" event to come. This a good sign that a huge dealer like Arsenal have finally seen the light. Your efforts paid off....Chris.

Addax
11-01-2010, 2:45 PM
Glad to read this good news regarding Arsenal's decision to send their products direct to our ADDAX. Months ago, the climate was so different and I've read post threads regarding Arsenal's instructions to their out of state dealers. Good way to convince them with both BB idea and off the list chart. More than happy to see if they place a " California compliant rifles available " sign on their website meantime we wait for "two weeks" event to come. This a good sign that a huge dealer like Arsenal have finally seen the light. Your efforts paid off....Chris.

Thank you Teg767.

Addax
11-18-2010, 10:18 PM
We should see our first shipment of SGL-33-61 5.45x39 CA Compliant AK74 rifles in approx. 2-3 weeks.

Arsenal SGL-33-61 5.45x39 CA compliant AK74 Rifle at Addax Tactical (http://www.adxtactical.com/store/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=1710&idcategory=191)

We should also be receiving a .410 shotgun variant of the SGL rifles the same time we receive the SGL-33's.

We will also be stocking Silver Bear Lead Core 5.45x39 ammunition.

5.45x39 10/30 magazines will be available soon.

The 7.62x39 SGL23 Cali Compliant rifles will be available soon.

Chris

Addax
11-21-2010, 9:00 PM
We have received some requests for the Arsenal Milled California Compliant AK Rifles.

We have received word from Arsenal that they will be producing some CA Compliant Milled Receiver AK rifles.

We have two models posted up on our website with spec's and prices.

For more info. click the links below:

ARSENAL CALIFORNIA COMPLIANT SAM 7-20 7.62X39 AK RIFLE WITH BLACK POLYMER FURNITURE AT ADDAX TACTICAL (http://adxtactical.com/store/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=1747&idcategory=191)

ARSENAL CALIFORNIA COMPLAINT SAM 7-32 7.62x39 AK CLASSIC WITH BLONDE FURNITURE AT ADDAX TACTICAL (http://adxtactical.com/store/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=1748&idcategory=191)

From what we understand these rifles should be available sometime in the next 3 months.

We will be taking Pre-Release orders, as we have with the SGL CA Compliant rifles, and we do offer a Calguns.net member discount price.:D

There is also a new .410 SGL Shotgun that we will be receiving in the next couple of weeks from Arsenal.

For more info. click the link below:

ARSENAL CALIFORNIA COMPLIANT SGL-34-61 .410 AK74 SHOTGUN AT ADDAX TACTICAL (http://adxtactical.com/store/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=1746&idcategory=192)

If you have any questions, please contact us via email at sales@addaxtactical.com or you can call us at the shop Tues-Sat. at 818-361-5008

Thank you,
Chris

Addax
12-05-2010, 9:23 PM
Here are some pics of the new Arsenal California Compliant SGL Rifles. Check out the magazine lock tool lanyard! Very nice touch from the guys at Arsenal.

We should have these and the .410 Shotgun Model in stock at our store this next week.

We also have Wolf lead core 5.45x39 60 grain in stock, and Golden Tiger lead core 7.62x39 ammunition in stock.

We will be working on getting more 10 round magazines in very soon.

SGL-33-61 5.45x39

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc137/addax/ARSENAL545CACOMPLIANTSGLRIFLE.jpg

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc137/addax/ARSENAL545CACOMPLIANTSGLRIFLEPIC3.jpg

SGL-23-61 7.62x39

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc137/addax/ARSENAL762CACOMPLIANTSGLRIFLE.jpg

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc137/addax/ARSENAL762CACOMPLIANTSGLRIFLEpic3.jpg

thefitter
12-07-2010, 7:40 PM
What kind of warranty? How will warranty issues be handled? Through you or direct to Arsenal?

Anyone have any experience with Arsenals warranty? Thanks

Addax
12-07-2010, 8:21 PM
What kind of warranty? How will warranty issues be handled? Through you or direct to Arsenal?

Anyone have any experience with Arsenals warranty? Thanks

The factory warranty is a limited 1 year warranty.

Just like many other firearms from other mfg's, you would deal directly with the manufacturer for warranty related concerns.

We will be happy to assist and advise our customers if they are experiencing an issue, but if a firearm is in need of warranty service, then the best course of action would be to deal directly with the original manufacturer of the firearm or product.

Here is a link to the Arsenal Inc. website explaining their warranty:
http://www.arsenalinc.com/warranty.htm

Please let us know if you have any other questions.

Thank you,

Chris

thefitter
12-08-2010, 6:50 AM
Have you heard any feed back from customers that have dealt with Arsenal for warranty issues?

Addax
12-08-2010, 8:42 AM
Yes I have.

Arsenal covering their rifles under warranty is not an issue, as long as your rifles warranty is valid.

If you abuse and misuse your rifle, alter the rifle (that could cause an issue), the warranty will not cover any repairs.

I have read some of the negative posts on line from some folks who were upset that Arsenal would not cover their out of warranty rifle due to whatever issue they had.

Many of these folks purchased an Arsenal rifle that was already out of warranty, and used.

Most product manufacturers will not cover a product that falls outside of the stated warranty time period, or if the product is abused, mis-used, and / or altered.

Hope this helps.

Chris

220RR
12-21-2010, 7:30 PM
can the arsenal maglock be removed if taken out of state?

Addax
12-21-2010, 11:04 PM
can the arsenal maglock be removed if taken out of state?

The Arsenal lock is riveted on, not screwed on.

If you are looking for something that can be easily removed from the rifle for shooting out of state, then this is not going to be the solution for you.

If you are moving out of state permanently, Arsenal will convert the rifle back to its normal configuration for a nominal fee.

Addax
12-28-2010, 10:33 PM
We received a couple of new Arsenal CA Compliant Rifles.

You can check them out on our website here:

Arsenal CA Compliant SGL-23-62 7.62x39 with Plum Furniture (http://www.adxtactical.com/store/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=1800&idcategory=191)

Arsenal CA Compliant SAM 7-20 Milled Receiver 7.62x39 AK with Black Polymer Furniture (http://www.adxtactical.com/store/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=1747&idcategory=191)

We offer a Calguns Member Discount.

Give us a call.

Thanks,
Chris

Bonecrusher
12-31-2010, 1:27 AM
So, do you guy's have them in stock yet?

When they are available to you, will you be able to offer the SGL-33-61 in OD, or just Black?

safewaysecurity
12-31-2010, 1:57 AM
I would have bought one of these rifles if it wasn't for their stupid locking system. They just had to be safety sally overachievers and go above and beyond what is required under Cali law. I don't see them selling alot of these.

JETLAG
12-31-2010, 7:01 PM
So you want to take it off so it can be Illegal is what I hear...

Arsenal replaces the Mag-lock with the factory one for free if you move out of state :)

I have both the Arsenal AK 47/74 with the locks and I don't mind them.

Addax
01-01-2011, 12:15 AM
I would have bought one of these rifles if it wasn't for their stupid locking system. They just had to be safety sally overachievers and go above and beyond what is required under Cali law. I don't see them selling alot of these.

We already sold 15 Arsenal CA compliant SGL rifles and 1 CA Compliant SAM 7 milled rifle in the last two weeks.

They are selling really well, and the customers who have purchased the rifles like the way the mag lock works, and how smooth the operation is.

Chris

Addax
01-01-2011, 12:19 AM
So, do you guy's have them in stock yet?

When they are available to you, will you be able to offer the SGL-33-61 in OD, or just Black?

I have black stock SGL33-61's in stock.

We have some custom ordered Plum and OD SGL 23 and 33's on order, and we hope to see these in about 2-3 weeks.

Our first SGL23 Plum rifle sold only a couple of days after we received it.

underhook
01-02-2011, 7:49 PM
Do they take regular AK magazines (not Saiga)? I'm really asking how much they've been converted.

Addax
01-02-2011, 9:39 PM
Do they take regular AK magazines (not Saiga)? I'm really asking how much they've been converted.

They take regular AK pattern magazines.

Secret
01-31-2011, 5:10 PM
no 5.56 variants? :(. I'd definitely buy one before my other rifle purchase soon ;)

Addax
02-01-2011, 8:41 AM
no 5.56 variants? :(. I'd definitely buy one before my other rifle purchase soon ;)

We have a milled receiver Arsenal RPK in 5.56 with blonde furniture at the shop for $1900.00

SPUTTER
02-03-2011, 8:43 AM
These are nice rifles but a big thumbs down on the mag lock.

underhook
02-03-2011, 8:45 AM
These are nice rifles but a big thumbs down on the mag lock.

Agreed. I'm in the process of putting a standard AK mag lock on with a solar tactical lock. It looks pretty simple as it is still a standard AK trigger guard.

Addax
02-03-2011, 3:38 PM
We have literally sold every single Arsenal CA compliant rifle we have brought into our shop over the past couple of months, and the customers who have purchased the Arsenal CA compliant rifles have not complained about the Arsenal mag lock.

Some customers have commented that it is very easy to use.

underhook
02-07-2011, 7:46 AM
The problems with the Arsenal lock vs the Solar solution are:

1) when you go out of state for the weekend you cannot just undo four screws and have a normal rifle

2) you cannot use the solar mag tool which attached to your magazines and allows you to reload at speed using the same mechanics you would if the lock was not there.

The good news is that with the help of another Calgunner it proved trivial to drill out the Arsenal lock and put in a standard AK magazine release and make it legal via a solar lock. All Arsenal have done is create a proprietary two piece lock that goes inside the standard trigger guard housing. You can reuse the spring and you just need a standard AR magazine release lever and pin.

Addax
02-07-2011, 8:04 AM
The good news is that with the help of another Calgunner it proved trivial to drill out the Arsenal lock and put in a standard AK magazine release and make it legal via a solar lock. All Arsenal have done is create a proprietary two piece lock that goes inside the standard trigger guard housing. You can reuse the spring and you just need a standard AR magazine release lever and pin.

By removing the Arsenal mag lock on their CA compliant rifle, you just voided their warranty (per what Arsenal has told me).

If anyone has a concerns or input regarding the Arsenal mag lock that come standard on the Arsenal California compliant AK rifles, you can let the guys at K-var / Arsenal know in their vendor forum here on Calguns: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/forumdisplay.php?f=225

underhook
02-07-2011, 8:40 AM
Warranty on a Saiga based AK is not something to worry about! I think the mean time between failures is measured in geological ages.

Addax
02-07-2011, 8:54 AM
Warranty on a Saiga based AK is not something to worry about! I think the mean time between failures is measured in geological ages.

True, but it should still be mentioned, just in case someone were to mod/change their Arsenal CA compliant rifle and void their warranty.

oblio
02-21-2011, 8:06 AM
I'm confused. If Arsenal SGL models (All) are still listed on the CA AW ID appendix C as illegal, how would you reconcile this to the new CA compliant SGL23/33/43-61's? I mean what should we do if a leo looks your model, compares it to the chart, sees a match and comes to the wrong conculsion? What am I missing...since I'm such a newbie?

2600fromAtari
02-21-2011, 8:17 AM
SLG is mentioned, not SGL.

Addax
02-21-2011, 8:36 AM
I'm confused. If Arsenal SGL models (All) are still listed on the CA AW ID appendix C as illegal, how would you reconcile this to the new CA compliant SGL23/33/43-61's? I mean what should we do if a leo looks your model, compares it to the chart, sees a match and comes to the wrong conculsion? What am I missing...since I'm such a newbie?

The way it works is that if the Specific manufacture AND Model are listed on the CA AW ban list, then it is an AW per CAL-DOJ.

The Arsenal SGL models are not listed by model, but the SLG is listed.

Easy enough to explain it to a LEO.

Aside from this, you also need to make sure that the configuration of your centerfire rifle is an AW (see the chart I linked below for more information).

Carry a copy of the AW & OLL guidelines with you in your range bag just in case you need to explain the details etc... http://www.calguns.net/caawid/flowchart.pdf (http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/../caawid/flowchart.pdf)

oblio
02-21-2011, 1:14 PM
SLG is mentioned, not SGL.
Oops. Must be dyslexia. My eyes saw sgl and not slg on that chart. Thks!