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Heiko
10-07-2010, 5:22 PM
Sorry if this has been discussed to death but I didn't find anything specific when searching.

I am looking for grips to replace the cheap rubber panels on my Springfield Loaded Champion Lightweight. I think I have settled on VZ Operators. Can anyone give me some advice as to whether I should get them in G10 (supposedly more aggressive/rougher) or in paper Micarta (smoother)?

The gun will be a CCW gun and will no doubt lots of range use too.

Thanks in advance and if anyone has pictures of these grips on a black and OD green 1911 I'd appreciate it. :)

beemaze
10-07-2010, 6:26 PM
I have VZ Operators on full sized 1911's. It's pretty aggressive. Maybe too aggressive for concealed carry.

Check out the VZ ETC's. They're made of G10, and they give the best balance for grip where you need it and smoothness for concealed carry. I use these on a Colt Mustang Pocketlite.

I wouldn't select anything less than G10 or Carbon Fiber composite for durability and strength. They won't break or crack like plastic or wood.

beemaze
10-07-2010, 6:40 PM
Probably not the color combo you're looking for, but I like to show & tell lol


Operators:
http://i49.tinypic.com/2s78egi.jpg
ETC's:
http://i52.tinypic.com/sq7cqh.jpg

i1800collect
10-07-2010, 6:42 PM
I have VZ Operators on full sized 1911's. It's pretty aggressive. Maybe too aggressive for concealed carry.

I agree. The VZ Operators are very agressive and probably not the best grips for a CCW.

foxtrotuniformlima
10-07-2010, 6:48 PM
Here they are on my 1911 9mm.

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a375/kgunz11/FGW%20Pistol%20Builds/DSC_0951.jpg

I like them a lot.

jptopz
10-07-2010, 7:14 PM
I have a set of VZ operators and love them. I didn't think they where as rough as others have said I kinda like the feel. Any how worse case if you don't like them they sell like hot cakes used. I like show and tell too :D
http://i805.photobucket.com/albums/yy331/jptopz/IMG_3589.jpg
http://i805.photobucket.com/albums/yy331/jptopz/IMG_3598.jpg

MicronuT
10-07-2010, 8:34 PM
check out the aliens too..

they look like a hot *** to me.. i love em

Heiko
10-07-2010, 9:09 PM
Thanks for the feedback and as always, gun pr0n is always welcomed. It is so difficult to decide when there is no way to feel them all. Heck, I have read that the only place around that is an authorized VZ dealer is Retting's in Culver City and I'm nowhere near there. I should have paid more attention at the Phoenix gun show last month but I didn't have a 1911 way back then. ;)

Beemaze: Great color combo selections for your VZ grips!

NiteQwill
10-07-2010, 9:14 PM
Get them in G10
http://www.sk8ng.com/dusty/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/SA-Custom-1911-e1282174216728.jpg

Or black canvas ;)
http://www.sk8ng.com/dusty/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/SA-Operator-11.JPG

Heiko
10-07-2010, 9:27 PM
Get them in G10
http://www.sk8ng.com/dusty/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/SA-Custom-1911-e1282174216728.jpg

Or black canvas ;)
http://www.sk8ng.com/dusty/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/SA-Operator-11.JPG

Another couple nice 1911 shots. Are those Gatorbacks? The G10s in the first photos don't look too rough.

BMWguy206
10-08-2010, 5:10 AM
I was thinking about getting the Operators but decided to get the Aliens instead. I might just buy the Operators though just to have another set.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/attachment.php?attachmentid=71249&d=1286543404

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/attachment.php?attachmentid=71250&d=1286543442

NiteQwill
10-08-2010, 8:31 AM
Another couple nice 1911 shots. Are those Gatorbacks? The G10s in the first photos don't look too rough.

Yup, those are the Gator Backs... They're a middle-of-the-road feel between aggressive and non-aggressive.

beemaze
10-08-2010, 1:55 PM
Hi Heiko, I've seen Ammo Bros in Cerritos carry VZ grips on occassion.

Swoop
10-08-2010, 2:04 PM
I have Operator II's and LOVE THEM

Heiko
10-08-2010, 2:25 PM
Hi Heiko, I've seen Ammo Bros in Cerritos carry VZ grips on occassion.

Darn it! I was there a few weeks ago. I wasn't in the market for 1911 grips then so I could very well have passed them over.

I have Operator II's and LOVE THEM

Do you think they are too aggressive for IWB/CCW? I like the looks and the design of the Operators but don't want to wind up losing skin on my side or wearing holes in shirts.

jak77
10-08-2010, 2:25 PM
Just ordered a pair of recons in black grey from vz. Ill post pics when they get here and I get them on my parkarized loaded.

foxtrotuniformlima
10-08-2010, 3:17 PM
The nice thing about them is that if they are too aggressive, a little sand paper will fix it. :)

djleisure
10-08-2010, 6:23 PM
The nice thing about them is that if they are too aggressive, a little sand paper will fix it. :)
I second that - get the G10's, so you can sand them a bit if need be. I have the Operator II's on this one and I would say they are too aggressive for IWB/CC - they are EXTREMELY aggressive. I think the regular Operators are slightly less aggressive though...

http://i1006.photobucket.com/albums/af189/dj_leisure/SA%201911/IMG_8462.jpg

PutTogether
10-08-2010, 6:23 PM
I have operator grips in micarta and g10. I can't tell the difference. Both were a little TOO sharp when brand new, so i did take a fine grit sand paper to them. Just to break the edge so they didn't cut me.

jptopz
10-08-2010, 7:15 PM
If you are worried about the Operators being to aggressive you may want to look in to the Aliens or the Garter backs. I have a set of Aliens and I don't find them to be to aggressive! As far as G10 or linen G10 are stronger, but even the linen are much stronger than you will even need for a pistol grip. More Gun Porn! :)
http://i805.photobucket.com/albums/yy331/jptopz/IMG_3604.jpg

You may also want to check out RAASCO grips as well. They make a nice copy of the Gater backs using the same process to make them. Its a local California shop and they cost between $35-$45, and have a great reputation.

beemaze
10-09-2010, 12:54 PM
I would agree on the Aliens or Gator Backs as well for concealed carry.

I have a pair of slim Gator Backs that I have yet to install on my CBOB (need to remove the original grip bushings and install the smaller grip bushings which is a real p.i.t.a.) The Gator Backs are pretty smooth through and through yet offer an undulating surface for good grip!

Heiko
10-09-2010, 4:18 PM
Thanks guys! I'm leaning towards the Aliens. I really like the look of the Operators and think they'll match the utilitarian looks of my black/OD green Springfield but comfort trumps looks in this decision. I think the Aliens would look good too while being more comfortable.

jptopz: Thanks for the Raasco link. They have some great looking wood grips for very reasonable prices and huge selection. I thought about a moment about a set of black diamond wood tactical half checkered grips.

Shawn L
10-09-2010, 7:49 PM
Here's a pic on my Loaded 9mm with VZ Aliens.

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z279/splinse/100_1534-1.jpg

Heiko
10-09-2010, 7:58 PM
I'm loving the gun pr0n. :D

j_bauer
10-09-2010, 7:59 PM
A couple of Aliens. Very aggressive...

http://i389.photobucket.com/albums/oo337/j_bauer_CTU/1911%20Types/P8280477.jpg

beemaze
10-15-2010, 12:34 PM
Great grips on a great gun, but again, I would not want these grips rubbing on my bare back/side while carrying concealed.

http://i55.tinypic.com/fp8kz7.jpg

kdmmcc
10-15-2010, 4:22 PM
Sorry if this has been discussed to death but I didn't find anything specific when searching.

I am looking for grips to replace the cheap rubber panels on my Springfield Loaded Champion Lightweight. I think I have settled on VZ Operators. Can anyone give me some advice as to whether I should get them in G10 (supposedly more aggressive/rougher) or in paper Micarta (smoother)?

The gun will be a CCW gun and will no doubt lots of range use too.

Thanks in advance and if anyone has pictures of these grips on a black and OD green 1911 I'd appreciate it. :)

If you're going to carry it, get the paper micarta; the operator, which I have, is for tactical/operational use, great grip but would rub you raw in a concealed carry...

Heiko
10-15-2010, 4:44 PM
If you're going to carry it, get the paper micarta; the operator, which I have, is for tactical/operational use, great grip but would rub you raw in a concealed carry...

Thanks. I actually called VZ and was probably the millionth caller bugging them about which grips to get but the lady on the phone was very patient and understanding. She was quite adamant that the Operators would be too rough for concealed carry. I asked about the paper micarta version and whether they are smoother and she told me they no longer make them in paper micarta. I got the impression that they no longer use it for any of their grips. I should have clarified.

She recommended nothing more aggressive than the ETC or Gatorbacks in G10.

beemaze
10-15-2010, 5:41 PM
She recommended nothing more aggressive than the ETC or Gatorbacks in G10.

I would completely agree, and those are the only two G10 grips I have chosen for my CCW's :o