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gunsandrockets
10-06-2010, 12:38 AM
I haven't bought a handgun for a long time, so I haven't looked at the DOJ approved HG list for a long while. So I was surprised recently to see some NAA mini-revolvers and some Cobra Derringers on the approval list.:eek:

It had been my impression that the only firearms that could get on the approval list were double-action revolvers and semi-auto pistols due to the moronic DOJ regulations. Have the regulations changed? Does this mean it is possible for single-shot and bolt-action pistols to get on the list?

Advice please.

Librarian
10-06-2010, 7:08 AM
Amazingly, not all handguns are subject to the Roster.

See http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/index.php/The_Safe_Handgun_List

Droc101
10-06-2010, 7:10 AM
Amazingly, not all handguns are subject to the Roster.

See http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/index.php/The_Safe_Handgun_List

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SJgunguy24
10-06-2010, 7:11 AM
It's more like protection, mob style. You pony up the dollars you get to play, you don't.........

gunsandrockets
10-10-2010, 2:24 AM
Amazingly, not all handguns are subject to the Roster.

See http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/index.php/The_Safe_Handgun_List

I read all that before my first post. It doesn't answer the question.

The original DOJ regulations for the "safe handgun" law only provided a process for double-action revolvers and semi-auto pistols to gain approval. All other types were out luck.

It was only later that the law exempting some other types of pistols was added.

The NAA mini-revolvers and Cobra derringers are not exempt handguns. They are on the approval list now, despite the original DOJ regulations, so obviously those regulations must have changed. The question is, how much did those regulations change?

For example, can bolt-action repeating handguns now gain approval?

Librarian
10-10-2010, 6:07 AM
The original DOJ regulations for the "safe handgun" law only provided a process for double-action revolvers and semi-auto pistols to gain approval. All other types were out luck.

....

For example, can bolt-action repeating handguns now gain approval?
I don't know why you believe "other types were out luck."

The law says Penal Code 12131. (a) On and after January 1, 2001, the
Department of Justice shall compile, publish, and thereafter
maintain a roster listing all of the pistols, revolvers, and
other firearms capable of being concealed upon the person that
have been tested by a certified testing laboratory, have been
determined not to be unsafe handguns, and may be sold in
this state pursuant to this title. The roster shall list, for
each firearm, the manufacturer, model number, and model name.


A number of Olympic-type competitive pistols were classified as 'assault weapons' because they have their magazines outside the grip; several of those were later exempted by name, but that wasn't a Roster issue.

As to bolt-action pistols, I dunno. A single-shot bolt-action probably would be exempt from the Roster - (b) The provisions of this chapter shall not apply to a
single-shot pistol with a barrel length of not less than six
inches and that has an overall length of at least 101/2 inches
when the handle, frame or receiver, and barrel are assembled.


Beyond the LCI and the mag disconnect, and the 'microstamping', there have been no changes to the law.