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joeyg131
10-05-2010, 2:53 PM
i just got a colt commander with the alloy frame its an awsome gun. ive read that putting a full length guide rod in will help keep it from jumping when i fire it. does anyone have any thoughts or first hand experience with these guide rods?

redcliff
10-05-2010, 4:05 PM
Just stick with the standard set-up. FLGR's really do little for recoil reduction and just complicate take-down needlessly imho.

I only run them on comped 1911's which don't use a standard barrel bushing.

swifty
10-05-2010, 4:27 PM
Stay with the stock set-up. If recoil is a factor, get a cartridge that has less recoil or a heavier gun.

I would add a new recoil spring. 18lbs is factory weight, I prefer 20lbs.

joeyg131
10-05-2010, 5:04 PM
i just thought they looked neat. can they harm the gun at all. i just ordered a 18 lb wolf spring from midway they said 16lb was factory weight ill get a 20lb also. the recoils not that bad im just used to my glock 26 and need to get used to it. to be honest i just love buying stuff for my guns.

swifty
10-05-2010, 5:23 PM
No, the full length guide rod will not hurt your Commander.

16lb is factory for the Government Model, your Commander is 18lb stock weight.

joeyg131
10-05-2010, 5:35 PM
gotcha thanks again swifty ill get a 20 lb spring it will help with feeding also i bet

swifty
10-05-2010, 6:10 PM
Your welcome, enjoy the Colt.

Cyc Wid It
10-05-2010, 7:31 PM
Again, I must ask why? Try a shock buff if you must, but FLGR is not the solution.

Colt
10-06-2010, 9:39 AM
No shok buff, especially on a shorter barrel pistol. Don't bother with full length guide rod. Also, don't get heavier weight recoil spring. Start with standard 18# but then try 17 and see if it functions. I run 17 in my commanders (some are older than yours) and they run fine. It's a little less wear and tear on pistol as long as function is not affected.

Good luck.

joeyg131
10-06-2010, 11:43 AM
do the shok buffers harm the gun?

Cyc Wid It
10-06-2010, 11:53 AM
They don't, but I don't think you're supposed to run them on smaller than full sized 1911's (reliability).

fennecfrank
10-06-2010, 12:15 PM
if you really want to put a full length guide rod, Ed Brown makes one that's for Commander. I put it on my commander before I sold it. It made the action smoother and it's a drop-in. You don't need a gunsmith to put it in, you simply replace it.

http://edbrown.com/cgi/htmlos.cgi/00535.1.1338740729517029155
Item number: 889-C

joeyg131
10-06-2010, 12:15 PM
you mean the slide cant go back far enough im new to 1911s this commander is my first but i like the way it feels in my hand. i wanna get a cheap mil spec full size that i can experiment with and fire cheaper ammo through. the commander is from my grandpa and i dont wanna mess it up. can anyone recommend a cheap mil spec 1911

Colt
10-06-2010, 12:50 PM
a lot of folks (me included) don't believe in shok buffs on any 1911. However, especially for shorter barrel 1911s the shock buff can make it even more difficult for the pistol to cycle properly. So, probably not damage, per se, but the pistol may not always function 100%.

joeyg131
10-06-2010, 2:39 PM
gotcha i just dont wanna put to much wear on the alloy frame. not for resale. but because it was a gift from my grandpa and its special to me. but i do wanna shoot it whenever the wife lets me go to the range. its a really fun gun to shoot and the frame fits my small hands. im gonna get a full size for sure

bigbob76
10-06-2010, 3:45 PM
This is something I'm curious about. If you increase the strength of the recoil spring won't that increase the speed of the slide returning to battery? If so does this bring other issues into play?

swifty
10-06-2010, 4:03 PM
This is something I'm curious about. If you increase the strength of the recoil spring won't that increase the speed of the slide returning to battery? If so does this bring other issues into play?

Yes it does. It also makes it harder for the power of the cartridge to open the slide and perform the functions of extraction, ejection and loading.

The factory installs a recoil spring that works with "standard" loads and the "average" shooter.

Colt
10-06-2010, 4:30 PM
Yes. And most Colts ship with recoil springs that are actually a little lighter than the quoted spec.

Do a search here: http://forum.m1911.org for a very long discussion(s)...