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RRangel
09-27-2010, 9:37 AM
This is coming from our current White House. Will there be any naysayers complaining about this? Aren't increased wiretap powers and similar actions that are reminiscent of the Patriot Act verboten? The law will reportedly include the following:


-Any service that provides encrypted messages must be capable of unscrambling them.



-Any foreign communications providers that do business in the U.S. would have to have an office in the United States that's capable of providing intercepts.



-Software developers of peer-to-peer communications services would be required to redesign their products to allow interception.


I'm sure software developers love government breathing down their necks. Not to mention some of these features could be security risks.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100927/ap_on_hi_te/us_internet_wiretaps

ocspeedracer
09-27-2010, 9:41 AM
This is coming from our current White House. Will there be any naysayers complaining about this? Aren't increased wiretap powers and similar actions that are reminiscent of the Patriot Act verboten? The law will reportedly include the following:


-Any service that provides encrypted messages must be capable of unscrambling them.



-Any foreign communications providers that do business in the U.S. would have to have an office in the United States that's capable of providing intercepts.



-Software developers of peer-to-peer communications services would be required to redesign their products to allow interception.


I'm sure software developers love government breathing down their necks. Not to mention some of these features could be security risks.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100927/ap_on_hi_te/us_internet_wiretaps

I don't like the sounds of this, certainly not with our current administration. This even goes beyond that.

Rhythm of Life
09-27-2010, 9:45 AM
They've been trying this stuff for years and it hasn't stuck yet.

orangeglo
09-27-2010, 11:03 PM
I do not approve.

freonr22
09-27-2010, 11:15 PM
They've been trying this stuff for years and it hasn't stuck yetcome out in the open yet.

I am SURE they can see what ever they want to regarding email/ files upload download. Who has the Internet switches? or is it servers? a lil while ago, I may be wrong, there were like 13 in the world, 9 in the us... something like that

armygunsmith
09-27-2010, 11:20 PM
Looks like more traffic will be going through onion networks. Not ideal, but it's a start.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onion_routing

Wherryj
09-29-2010, 10:57 AM
This is coming from our current White House. Will there be any naysayers complaining about this? Aren't increased wiretap powers and similar actions that are reminiscent of the Patriot Act verboten? The law will reportedly include the following:


-Any service that provides encrypted messages must be capable of unscrambling them.



-Any foreign communications providers that do business in the U.S. would have to have an office in the United States that's capable of providing intercepts.



-Software developers of peer-to-peer communications services would be required to redesign their products to allow interception.


I'm sure software developers love government breathing down their necks. Not to mention some of these features could be security risks.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100927/ap_on_hi_te/us_internet_wiretaps

Megan Kelly had a little segment on this on Monday. It was interesting how exactly the same thing was tried by the Bush admin, and how different the newspaper headlines were.

Back then it was "Concern over expanded government spying". Now it's just "enhanced wiretap".

It just shows that neither party and none of the media sources are to be trusted. There is too much "spin" put on everything these days.

POLICESTATE
09-29-2010, 11:04 AM
I was reading about this yesterday, whatever. The terrorists will just turn to encrypted communications. The whole thing is stupid.

Wherryj
09-29-2010, 11:20 AM
It's not about controlling terrorists. If need be, they will fall back to dead drops and the like.

It's about being able to control one's citizens.

JDay
09-29-2010, 6:43 PM
I am SURE they can see what ever they want to regarding email/ files upload download. Who has the Internet switches? or is it servers? a lil while ago, I may be wrong, there were like 13 in the world, 9 in the us... something like that

Your numbers are way off, there are many thousands of internet backbone switches and routers in the US alone. Take a look at just UUNET's US internet map.

http://www.nthelp.com/images/uunet.pdf

http://www.nthelp.com/images/uunet.jpg

There are many more here.

http://www.nthelp.com/maps.htm

Keep in mind these are just showing the major hubs.

JDay
09-29-2010, 6:46 PM
It's not about controlling terrorists. If need be, they will fall back to dead drops and the like.

These are still widely used.

KillZone45
09-29-2010, 6:48 PM
It's not about controlling terrorists. If need be, they will fall back to dead drops and the like.

It's about being able to control one's citizens.

This is exactly what it is about!

bigmike82
09-29-2010, 7:30 PM
Freon, you're thinking of root DNS servers.

Those are completely different.