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Falstaff
09-25-2010, 8:27 PM
I've wanted a Garand for a long time, looked at the CMP garands but I just can't stand the idea of spending 500+ for a tore up old arsenal gun. For 1500-1800 I can get a completely refinished Garand with Krieger barrel,new stock and refinsihed action. Or should I re-barrel and refinish a beater garand (and get 2.0 MOA or better outta the rifle? (and wait 2 years for smith to get it done.)

Are there any other options as far as getting a nice Garand? SA doesnt sell them anymore as near as I can tell.

bomb_on_bus
09-25-2010, 8:35 PM
the garand I have from CMP is as decent shooter as the Fulton Armories that I have seen on the line. Not better accuracy but comparable.

I havent seen any beater garands from CMP other then a run they had a few years ago when they were fetching around 200.00 a rifle. Most rifles they offer are good shooters and look great IMO.

You could get a kreiger barrel and put it on yourself and save a few hundred dollars.

chickenfried
09-25-2010, 8:40 PM
another option http://dgrguns.com/index.htm

pyro3k2
09-25-2010, 8:43 PM
there are better things you cuold buy with that money like another gun safe, more ammo and maybe even something not related to guns. Like get a payment ahead on your house or a down payment on a car.

Veggie
09-25-2010, 8:44 PM
If you want someone to talk you out of it I have to ask, do you really want it?

beetle
09-25-2010, 8:44 PM
i also recommend the DGR guns route

SJgunguy24
09-25-2010, 8:54 PM
I wouldn't buy a Fulton just because they bowed to the DOJ's threats when the OLL stuff first got started. Screw Fulton.

http://www.lrbarms.com/m14rifles.html

Do yourself a favor, have LRB build you a M25 on a REAL USA FORGED RECEIVER.
The money is worth it.

8200rpm
09-25-2010, 8:59 PM
CMP Special...

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/6211/m1gsa.jpg

5.8M Springfield Armory Receiver with a brand new Wilson Arms barrel, new walnut stock (tight), fully refinished (parkerized), Turner Saddlery sling, en bloc clip, chamber flag, and a certificate with your name on it. I paid $895 three years ago.

I think the current ones are running $995 with Criterion barrels. Wood comes bone dry. So, be prepared to buy some cheese cloth and boiled linseed oil from the hardware store, and spend the next ten days rubbing wood.

http://www.thecmp.org/m1garand.htm

Divernhunter
09-25-2010, 9:53 PM
8200RPM----+1 They look good and shoot good. Or you could get a Correct Grade. The 2 that I bought look to be unused. Even the dozen Service grades I got have all been pretty nice and real GI. Not some commercial rebuilt with no history. BUT that is just me and what I like.

I say buy what YOU like and not worry about what others think.

Ron-Solo
09-26-2010, 12:52 AM
Get the CMP service grade or higher and you won't be disappointed. My service grade SA cost me $595 and it is definitely NOT a "beater" The metal was in excellent condition and the wood was solid. The wood looks used but adds to the rifle's character. For $150 you can get all new wood from the CMP. The CMP Special grade is only $995 and they look like new.

I love my Garand.

Milsurp Collector
09-26-2010, 7:53 AM
I've wanted a Garand for a long time, looked at the CMP garands but I just can't stand the idea of spending 500+ for a tore up old arsenal gun.

A "tore up old arsenal gun"? Are you serious?

Here are examples of what your fellow Calgunners have gotten from the CMP

CMP Service Grade $595

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v245/RichP1269/Garand/DSCN1414.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v245/RichP1269/Garand/DSCN1415.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v245/RichP1269/Garand/DSCN1419.jpg

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=252709

http://www.sk8ng.com/dusty/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Springfield-M1-Garand.jpg

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=263693

http://i50.tinypic.com/2wh2ds6.jpg

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=252180&page=2 (the rifle above is still covered in cosmoline, hence its greasy appearance)

CMP Special Grade $895

http://members.cox.net/1nceamarine/cmpspecial.jpg

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=297213

Falstaff
09-26-2010, 8:41 AM
Well, with Suzee Orman's admonitions to pay off my house taken under advisement (I have 7 years left to pay on my mortgage! And I have no car payments, and soon no CC debt,-woot), to get back on topic, I don't really mean talk me outta ANY Garand, I'm gonna get one, perhaps I should have re-phrased the Q, Are there better alternatives to the Fulton Armory refinished rifles? I must admit, I didnt realize the CMP rifles were coming in that nice a condition nowadays. My first experience with DCM rifles was back in the 80's (before most Calgunners had even heard of CMP/DCM programs BTW) and they were rough looking. Good shooters, but rough cosmetically. What can I say; I like all my guns to look new and I'm willing to pay for it. Thanks for the leads on the other manufacturers/builders. But it looks like LRB does not make garands (they have nice looking M-14's though) The DGR guns link looks like a good option though.

Thanks for the Garand tips and financial planning advice! ;)

Jarhead
09-26-2010, 9:37 AM
CMP is the way to go, hands down. Save the money

dachan
09-26-2010, 10:47 AM
Do some research, as long as you are eligible to purchase a Garand from the CMP (not everyone is), it's the only way to go. Don't even consider any of the commercial outlets. The CMP offers nearly every grade rifle you could want. But, since it sounds like you want a shooter that is fully refinished/remanufactured to be like new, the CMP Special is probably your best choice; it also 2/3 the price of a similiar commercial rifle, and IMO put together by more skilled and engaged technicians.

Another option is to buy a service grade rifle from the CMP, and refinish it yourself. All you need is about $40 of hardware from Home Depot and/or a restuarant supply company and a jug of parkerizing solution from Brownells. The process is nearly foolproof, you're learn alot more about your piece of history, and you discover a whole new arena of shooting and firearms.

Finally, if you want something really special, check out the auctions on the CMP site; imagine being able to purchase a never issued Garand straight out of an arsenal crate.

kendog4570
09-26-2010, 11:04 AM
If you are willing to go the whole-hog route ala Fulton,and want one that SHOOTS, have it built by Tom Luhmann or Clint Fowler.

eric2063
09-26-2010, 11:10 AM
While Fulton does an OK job you're really paying a premium price for a name. The recent CMP guns are in amazing condition and are the best deal for the money you can find.

My opinion (FWIW) is DGR gives you a higher level of personal service & an awesome finished product when compared to Fulton. Some other choices are; The Garand Guy (http://www.garandguy.com/issuegrade.htm) I bought one of his super premium grade rifles in 2005, I don't think it has as good a finish as a DGR rifle, it has a decent re-park job, but it is one of my best shooters.

The only other place I would consider buying from is Orion 7 (http://www.m1garandrifle.com/Garandrifles.htm) owned by Anthony Pucci Jr. I've never seen one of their rifles but I've heard good things about them, he's the current co-chairman of the board for the Garand Collectors Assoc. and one of the original members so he knows something about the rifles.
Be careful though, I was only going to buy one or two shooters and now I have 6 :)

CrippledPidgeon
09-26-2010, 3:15 PM
Another good place to look is miltech

odysseus
09-26-2010, 3:19 PM
and spend the next ten days rubbing wood.

That should not present a problem for most people on here. :p

Bongos
09-26-2010, 3:39 PM
I have a Custom 308 West Texas Armoury which is a safe queen for sale if you are really interested, it's an HRA and price is $1300, new stock, all parts same color parkerized. I haven'tshot it since I got it about 4 years ago.

GunDog
09-26-2010, 4:43 PM
CMP Special...

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/6211/m1gsa.jpg

5.8M Springfield Armory Receiver with a brand new Wilson Arms barrel, new walnut stock (tight), fully refinished (parkerized), Turner Saddlery sling, en bloc clip, chamber flag, and a certificate with your name on it. I paid $895 three years ago.

I think the current ones are running $995 with Criterion barrels. Wood comes bone dry. So, be prepared to buy some cheese cloth and boiled linseed oil from the hardware store, and spend the next ten days rubbing wood.

http://www.thecmp.org/m1garand.htm

CMP Special Grade.....the only reason you need for not buying a Garand from Fulton Armory. It's the best deal out there. Get one before it's too late.

swerv512
09-26-2010, 4:50 PM
I wouldn't buy a Fulton just because they bowed to the DOJ's threats when the OLL stuff first got started. Screw Fulton.

http://www.lrbarms.com/m14rifles.html

Do yourself a favor, have LRB build you a M25 on a REAL USA FORGED RECEIVER.
The money is worth it.

^^^
I hate to agree because i love fulton products, but they do continue to not ship legal products directly to CA.

GunDog
09-26-2010, 4:51 PM
Another good place to look is miltech

Miltech is nice but, way too much money. A much better deal can be had through the Civilian Marksmanship Program (CMP), particularly if you order the special grade. Besides that, why pay a bunch more money for a wooden box?

By the way about 12 years ago, I bought a IBM M1 Carbine from Miltech. It's nice and I like it but I wouldn't buy another product from Miltech now that I know about what's available from CMP. I do however, like their 1941 semi-auto Johnson .30-06's but jeeze.......that's alot of money.