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cnyankee
05-24-2006, 07:46 PM
there seems to be a lot of confusing info and i dont want to do anything against the law. if i go to say a gunshow in reno and buy guns that are legal to own in cali can i bring them back to cali myself a day or two after i buy them or do i have a bunch of hoops to jump through? and if so what are they?

snobordr
05-24-2006, 08:45 PM
there seems to be a lot of confusing info and i dont want to do anything against the law. if i go to say a gunshow in reno and buy guns that are legal to own in cali can i bring them back to cali myself a day or two after i buy them or do i have a bunch of hoops to jump through? and if so what are they?


You cannot buy firearms out of state with a CA ID unless the firearm is transferred to you through an FFL here in the PRK.

EOD Guy
05-25-2006, 06:27 AM
Legally, you can buy a C&R rifle or shotgun that is over 50 years old, from a dealer only. The trick is finding a dealer that will deal with a California resident. I seriously doubt you can find one.

Glasshat
05-25-2006, 01:53 PM
I could easily be wrong but I think you can not (legally) buy a gun from a private party out of state and put it in your trunk and drive it home and then do the the paperwork later. I think it has to go through the regular FFL route. I think private party sellers can not sell to out of state buyers without the FFL process too.
CCR guns maybe different.

Paltik.45acp
05-25-2006, 03:05 PM
You have to be a resident of that State for you to purchase any type of firearms, being a CA resident, nobody is gonna sell firearms to you. They will
steer clear of you.

house
05-27-2006, 09:05 AM
what if you have an az id card and an az address, you use that... get the gun and come back to california...

I went to school in AZ and i did that several times and no one batted an eye.... and i do not believe in az they ask your residency... so i never lied...

jmlivingston
05-27-2006, 09:20 AM
My understanding, and I don't claim to be an expert, is as follows...

Excluding individuals w/ 03FFL's, the deal is that the transaction has to be legal in the state in which it occurs as well as the state of residency of the purchaser. Since CA has the DROS requirements that typically means all transactions have to go through a CA dealer capable of doing the DROS. However, all standard exceptions would apply meaning longarms older than 50 years of age would be eligable to be received out of state by a CA resident.

But I think you might have a tough time finding a dealer willing to do it....

John

anothergunnut
05-27-2006, 03:58 PM
House, when you fill out form 4473(?) to purchase a firearm, you are asked what state you reside in. If you do not reside in AZ but say you do, you are being a bad boy.

-hanko
05-27-2006, 10:33 PM
My understanding, and I don't claim to be an expert, is as follows...

Excluding individuals w/ 03FFL's, the deal is that the transaction has to be legal in the state in which it occurs as well as the state of residency of the purchaser. Since CA has the DROS requirements that typically means all transactions have to go through a CA dealer capable of doing the DROS. However, all standard exceptions would apply meaning longarms older than 50 years of age would be eligable to be received out of state by a CA resident.

But I think you might have a tough time finding a dealer willing to do it....

John
Nice post and a perfect explanation. Anecdotally, non-licensees at gunshows or garage sales or through the classifieds want cash and could care less about the buyer's home address. The sale still is against federal law.

-hanko

Ford8N
05-28-2006, 06:48 AM
http://www.atf.treas.gov/firearms/faq/faq2.htm#b3

Here are the answers from "The Man".