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ExtremeX
09-22-2010, 1:58 AM
I feel like getting a couple new flashlights... One for my AR-15, a good all-around campsite flashlight, and a everyday carry light.

AR-15 - Looking for good throw
Campsite - Good strong flood with enough modes to save juice
EDC - Small compact AA or 123 light

I know im probably going to see a lot of Surefire recommendations; great lights, love em, but from a cost standpoint, what else is really out there?

I’ve been looking a lot of Fenix and 4Sevens

Still looking at Campsite and EDC, but the two below are my considerations for weapon lights.

http://goinggear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=14_43&products_id=1723

http://goinggear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=14_18&products_id=286

What are your recommendations?

Crowesnest
09-22-2010, 2:47 AM
You're right....I like Surefire..... got myself an M961 weaponlight. I also have a backup Surefire G3. I tried going with cheaper priced lights...they just don't do it for me. The quality of Surefire is evident in their solid design. They also have a great customer service dept.


http://www.surefire.com/maxexp/main.pl?pgm=co_disp&func=displ&strfnbr=6&prrfnbr=23458&sesent=0,0&search_id=2261670

Mofo-Kang
09-22-2010, 3:06 AM
When I saw this, I thought it said "Fleshlights". I was gonna reply, "well, THAT'S a rather personal question!" LOL

erik18
09-22-2010, 3:14 AM
I run the surefire x300 weaponlight on my carbine with the xt07 pressure pad...love it.

As far as EDC...can't go wrong with a surefire g2l, or a 6p

orangeglo
09-22-2010, 3:15 AM
I dont have any weapon lights.

My EDC is a Quark AA. Love it.

Thinking about getting a quark mini aa for my keychain.

sniper5
09-22-2010, 5:17 AM
Fenix TK12. One on my shotgun with a pressure switch and one in the car. One on shotgun is set to strobe.

swrdply400mrelay
09-22-2010, 5:20 AM
Quark AA is a good light, very versatile with multi modes.


For something with better throw, try the Olight M20. It's pretty affordable, and batteryjunction will honor their warranty, comes with a lot of accessories, lots of people have been happy with them




Here are some mounts:
http://www.batteryjunction.com/olight-tactical-w-mount.html

http://www.batteryjunction.com/m20-gun-mount.html



Remote switch:
http://www.batteryjunction.com/olight-switch.html



For 5% off, use coupon code: cpf2009

problemchild
09-22-2010, 5:22 AM
Surefire are nice but they are years behind on LED tech. They refuse to use the latest LED's and develop new lights that use a rechargeable 18650 diameter tube.

Example

Surefire = 200Lumen and surefire expensive batteries (they also limit the voltage range so you cant use rcr123)
Jetbeam= 1200 lumen and 18650 or rcr123 rechargeable Lion batteries and the jetbeam is cheaper and same quality (no voltage range limitation and programmable UI)

My money is on

Fenix
Eagletach
Jetbeam
Olight
Nitecore

And a host of others that innovate much quicker.......

If SF made an SST50 with a dimmer switch that did not cost 600 I would buy it but they dont.

http://www.michaelkdickson.com/webjunk/flashlights/DPP_0001a.jpg

eastershawn
09-22-2010, 6:14 AM
im a car mechanic and i use a streamlight stinger led everyday. it is super reliable, i drop it everyday, sometimes in oil or coolant. the brightness is amazing, just check out the specs 180 lumes, and the battery time is anywhere from 2 hours to 7 hours depending on the brightness setting you are using. and only costs about $140 with a charge and extra battery. have had mine for about two years, and again, use it everyday, it is an awesome flashlight. only thing is that it is rechargable so might not be the best for if shtf, but for now, it is awesome. and oh yeah, ask a couple of mechanics what flashlight they use, 90% will tell you streamlight stinger

Cuda440
09-22-2010, 6:39 AM
I carry a Fenix L1t every day, and I use and abuse it alot. I have carried it for about two years with no problems, getting it wet, dirty, I have even had it covered in acid and caustic chemicals numerous times without any damage to the finish or lense. It's small, lightweight, and only uses one aa batteryso it's cheap to use. One battery lasts me about two weeks, and I use this light very often, always on high output.

http://www.fenixlight.com/viewproduct.asp?id=41

Smile
09-22-2010, 6:43 AM
Quark 123 for my home or everyday light.

nickyrr
09-22-2010, 7:06 AM
Check out solarforce L2 flashlights. I have 3 of them with drop in cree 320 lumens. These lights are bright as hell. Surefire is nice and all but for the money and what your gonna use em for, I think you won't regret it.

ZombieTactics
09-22-2010, 7:23 AM
For Campsite and EDC, check out the Fenix, Quark and 4Sevens brands. I highly recommend that you get something which takes AA batteries. CR123 batteries are just a pain.

vormav
09-22-2010, 7:26 AM
i just got a fenix ed20 for my EDC light, and I like it a lot. lightweight, tough, bright (109 lumens according to fenix) and you can rotate the bezel to go between spotlight and flood, found it for $30 on amazon

Wherryj
09-22-2010, 7:46 AM
I've been using a Surefire 623LMG 200 lumen LED shotgun forend light and a Surefire G2 Nitrolon running a Cree 340 lumen LED lamp housing. Those two alone seem to be enough to get the job done.

Grumpyoldretiredcop
09-22-2010, 7:57 AM
Flashlights: Surefire 6Z and G2 Nitrolon, both LED converted.

Weapon light: Insight M3/M3X, no LED conversion as expected on time is limited since I retired. I have an M6X but haven't found a real use for it yet.

lazuris
09-22-2010, 8:01 AM
Surefire lights with Malkoff device conversions on all of them. 240 lumens for 2 hours.

Black Majik
09-22-2010, 8:02 AM
Fenix TA20 user here. LOTS of throw and spill, 3 setting: low, medium and turbo. I got it because my Surefire E2L didn't cut it.

tomd1584
09-22-2010, 8:09 AM
For camping/General use i really like Fenix lights. I like the ability to switch intensity levels. I can go for a walk with the dog and use the low out put (10 lumens) when picking up dog poop, and then switch to high (220 lumens) when walking down the dark alleys behind my apartment. I have a PD30 and its BRIGHT; a great balance of throw and flood, in a tiny package..

For weapon lights, i've used the Streamlight TLR-1 and the Surefire X200a and X300. I prefer the Surefires over the Streamlight.

Lead-Thrower
09-22-2010, 8:12 AM
Fenix TK40. 630 lumens. This last Summer we had a bear stumble into our campsite at 3AM...went out with the light and an air horn. Lit that bear up like a christmas tree and blasted the horn. He didnt come back. :)

till44
09-22-2010, 8:20 AM
There are plenty of solid and good companies out there for camp and EDC lights. I like headlamps for a camp light (Black Diamond makes some great ones with multiple levels of power and multiple kinds of lights) and carry either a G2 LED or 6P LED for my EDC lights.

As far as weapon lights though, nothing beats Surefire. I have owned and abused all the serious manufacturers: Insight, Streamlight, and Surefire. Surefires outlast the others (I have had a Streamlight and Insights mounted on pistols fail while shooting) and they have the smallest profile (I mount them at 12 o'clock on my ARs, Streamlights/Insights fit but cover more of the front sight than I like. Plus a holster designed to fit you pistol and light will end up being slimmer with a Surefire versus other brands.)

Nick1236
09-22-2010, 8:45 AM
I just ordered a Fenix PD30, $60 brand new on ebay. Spec from their website:

Cree XP-G LED (R4) with lifespan of 50,000 hours
• Two modes (6 types) of output, generation/turbo selected by turning the bezel (patented)
-General Mode: 11 lumens (65hrs) -> 75 lumens (9hrs) -> 140 lumens (4hrs) -> SOS
-Turbo Mode: 265 lumens (1.5hrs) -> Strobe
• Digitally regulated output - maintains constant brightness
• Uses two 3V CR123A batteries (Lithium)
• 118mm (Length) x 21.5mm (Diameter)
• Made of durable aircraft-grade aluminum
• Premium Type III hard-anodized anti-abrasive finish
• 53-gram weight (excluding batteries)
• Waterproof to IPX-8 Standard
• Toughened ultra-clear glass lens with anti-reflective coating
• Push-button tail cap switch
• Capable of standing up securely on a flat surface to serve as a candle
• Anti-roll, slip-resistant body design
• Included accessories: holster, lanyard, body clip, two spare o-rings, and a rubber switch boot


Thanks for the advice :)

SVRider
09-22-2010, 8:55 AM
How large of a head are you willing to deal with in a thrower?

If I go for a walk at night, I take a Deree DBS with an MC-E emitter. It is actually more flood than throw, but has plenty of throw around the city (and gets about 500 lumen out the front (OTF). Be careful, lots of people rate "lumen" at the emitter. By the time you add the losses from the reflector/lens, it is only about 65% of the emitter rating....i.e. this light would rate at about 700 lumen at the emitter):
http://www.dereelight.com/dbsv2.htm

http://www.dereelight.com/imgs/DBS_V3_mce.jpg

It is basically about like having a handheld floodlight (the kind mounted outside your house to light up the whole yard).

I also have a DBS with an R2 emitter. I have since upgraded the head to an Apherical head so now it is a serious thrower. It roughly doubled the lux value of the light (now about 60,000lux, with the standard head, about 30,000lux). With it I can clearly see the beam hitting the church that Google Earth puts at 164yds away.

When you are looking for throw, don't look at "lumen", look at "lux". Lumen is a measure of the total amount of light coming out the front, regardless of where it goes. Lux is a measure of intensity in the brightest part of the beam (think of it as light density). The more of the light concentrated into the hot spot, the further it will throw.

I think the head may be a bit large for weapon mounting though. My go to the store at night light is an Olight M20:
http://www.olightworld.com/product_show.asp?id=155
http://www.olightworld.com/uploadfiles/2010-4-13/20100413010202801.jpg

For me it is a good thrower (about 13,000 lux), but in a size that I can still easily pocket.

If you want a less expensive alternative to the M20, look at the EagleTac T100C2 Mark II:
http://eagletac.com/flashlights%5Ct100c2.html

For camping, look at the Zebra lights. They have a perfect flood light (no hot spot), so the illumination is perfectly even from edge to edge of the beam. They work as a headlight or can be clipped to a pocket for hands-free use. They use common AA batteries and can run off of rechargeables. These are what are packed into the BOB/SHTF kit. I like warm tints for outdoor use.
http://www.zebralight.com/H501w-Neutral-White-w-new-UI_p_13.html
http://www.zebralight.com/assets/images/h501_1_large.jpghttp://www.zebralight.com/assets/images/H501package.jpg
They put out 80 lumens from a single AA for over 2 hours. Best thing is they have a super low mode that runs 0.3 lumen for 21 days.

Lastly, my EDC is a 4Sevens Quark AA Tactical. Again, common AA batteries, and has user programable modes. Forward clicky, it allows for momentary activation. With regular batteries, it is spec'd at 109 lumen for 1.2 hours and makes about 5,000lux. Super low (Moonlight) is 0.2 lumen for 10 days, . I am cheating by using a 3.7V 14500 LiIon battery (it can handle them), so on max, I can roughly double the light output (guys are really surprised how bright this light is for single AA size....much brighter than your standard Halogen 2-CR123A Surefire).
http://www.4sevens.com/product_info.php?cPath=297_306&products_id=1655

http://www.4sevens.com/images/4SevensQuarkAA_800x536.jpg

In the end, except for specialized lights, I have started to move away from special batteries (CR123's). I am changing most of my lights to all AA powered, either alkaline or NiMH and when possible also the option to run 14500 LiIon. I also like the ability to run ultra low. Not only does it allow you to move around at night (i.e. without disturbing the wife/kids), but it also allows for super long run time in case of an emergency.

Just my $0.02.....

HTH!

X-NewYawker
09-22-2010, 9:05 AM
Flashlights: Surefires of all stripes for home and garden. X200, 300, and 400 on weapons.

My Bar-Sto XD-9

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p54/Fasanoland/handguns/XD-9-1.jpg

BTW -- they EAT batteries. EAT THEM. They are making new Surefires that will use regular AAs -- I want to see how they work.

"Holly Hollywood" Fleshlight.

Reductio
09-22-2010, 9:39 AM
I have a couple of Fenix TK10's, and they're great little flashlights. CR123 batteries, but it's not really a downside for me, they work great.

HK Dave
09-22-2010, 9:45 AM
Handguns: Streamlight TLR-1, TLR-2
Rifles: Streamlight TLR-1, Surefire G2 LED
EDC: Jetbeam Jet-I Pro, Fenix PD20, Surefire C2 with Malkoff M61, Surefire E2D LED Defender
Headlamp: Petzl Tikka XP
When I need a LOT of light: Fenix Tk30, Jetbeam RRT-1, or my custom made 1000+ Lumen Maglite.

:D I love flashlights.

Lumiel
09-22-2010, 10:14 AM
Here's my EDC.
LED bulb, run's off of 1 6v battery for what seem's to be forever. Will throw a nice bright beam out quite a distance. Has two mode's, just the main LED on, or the main plus 3 more LED's around the upper collar that light up an area fairly well.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a44/chaotic-neutral/Lantern.jpg

lawaia
09-22-2010, 10:20 AM
Surefire G2L can be found new for around $40. Great bargain for a great all-purpose light! I have one mounted on my AR with a VTAC mount, and I keep one on my boat for everyday use. I'm also going to buy one for the house.

iareConfusE
09-22-2010, 10:23 AM
4Sevens Quark AA Tactical as my EDC. Bought from TacticalLEDs, which has GREAT customer service by the way.

wingman
09-22-2010, 11:41 AM
This is better than my old mag lights
http://www.moontrail.com/leatherman-monarch-500.php

Jeffy
09-22-2010, 11:58 AM
This is better than my old mag lights
http://www.moontrail.com/leatherman-monarch-500.php
Maglite's, especially the old incandescent are pretty bad compared to any LED. I have a Maglite 3D and it puts out a very weak light compared to my Surefire G2 LED. The Surefire is my go to light. It's brighter and runs a lot longer. It's hard to believe how bad the Maglite is. Back in the dark ages it was considered one of the best.

Surefire's may not be as bright as other brands but they do this to extend the run times. The only downside I've noticed is reduced range because of the Lumin's. 80 Lumin is OK for inside the house and outside walking around but if you're wanting to light someone up, they better be within 50ft. Mich further and the light gets diffused too much to make an ID.

I have a Vltor Scout mount to use the G2 on my AR. I"m going to be replacing it with a Streamlight TLR-1 or a Surefire X300 though. Much more streamline.

Army
09-22-2010, 12:34 PM
Go Fenix the first time, and you won't have to be disappointed later :)

C_1
09-22-2010, 12:40 PM
I use a Surefire G2L and ITP EOS upgraded for just about everything.

Aftermath686
09-22-2010, 12:58 PM
Surefire period.

I use:

X300 for Pistol

For the rifle:
http://www.vikingtactics.com/pop-vtac_surefire_L4.html
I disagree with Surefires built in mounts on the Scout lights, which is why I like the VTAC piece. Same exact light with no built in mount and half the cost...
If you need IR, slap a KM2 head on the above setup.

For camping an E2DL.

For everyday carry an E1B.

I wouldn't trust my life on any other flashlight.

Wherryj
09-22-2010, 1:00 PM
Flashlights: Surefires of all stripes for home and garden. X200, 300, and 400 on weapons.

My Bar-Sto XD-9

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p54/Fasanoland/handguns/XD-9-1.jpg

BTW -- they EAT batteries. EAT THEM. They are making new Surefires that will use regular AAs -- I want to see how they work.

"Holly Hollywood" Fleshlight.
http://www.surefire.com/surefire/content/images_inv/z/u/25084/618LMG_45L_large(2).png

caoboy
09-22-2010, 1:02 PM
Surefire G2 Nitrolon for everything!

Put in a 270 lumen LED and some rechargeable batteries, and you are GTG.

ExtremeX
09-22-2010, 1:07 PM
You guys are a TON of help! While I like the surefire recommendations, I’m also one of those guys that feel they are behind on LED technology. With that said, I think it’s the most durable light that can be recommended there and probably the BEST pick as a weapon light. I just can’t get over the cost vs brightness thing.

Thanks everyone for your Fenix recommendations too, I saw some videos on candle power forums which really did show off the toughness of these lights, I was VERY impressed. I think it’s one of the best values. I like 4Sevens for the advanced program modes and power saving features. I will research all the other brands recommended here too so I’m giving it a fair shot!

Still going to search high and low; looks like im going to end up owning more than just 3 flashlights lol. Once you really get into this, it starts to become overwhelming… CREE R2, R4, R5 LED tech vs reflector design.

Keep the recommendations coming! Brand and specific model is nice to see!

IEShooter
09-22-2010, 1:10 PM
Weapons light? Don't need one as I don't shoot at night.

Campsite light? You know those 3 packs of LED "tactical" lights from Costco that sell for $20. I bought three packs of them. They all work like a charm. Got one in my truck, wifes car, my motorcycle, bedside, downstairs, toolbox, and we take 2-3 camping with us.

They use AAA batteries, work well and when the day comes that one of my two young children pick them up and walk off with them, I'll be out about $6.33 per light. :D

ExtremeX
09-22-2010, 1:21 PM
Weapons light? Don't need one as I don't shoot at night.

Campsite light? You know those 3 packs of LED "tactical" lights from Costco that sell for $20. I bought three packs of them. They all work like a charm. Got one in my truck, wifes car, my motorcycle, bedside, downstairs, toolbox, and we take 2-3 camping with us.

They use AAA batteries, work well and when the day comes that one of my two young children pick them up and walk off with them, I'll be out about $6.33 per light. :D


I’ve been doing that, for way too many years... I never used to shoot at night, but now I want to when I go to the desert.

As for cheap campsite lights; I found myself buying a new one every ATV riding season. I even get the 5 pack of Husky LED lights from Home Depot for $10.00! AND it comes with batteries. Problem is they suck.

I want something I can rely on, lower power modes when that’s all I need, and the option power when needed. I’m tired of disposable flashlights. I need some POWER!

Aftermath686
09-22-2010, 1:29 PM
Surefire period.

I use:

X300 for Pistol

For the rifle:
http://www.vikingtactics.com/pop-vtac_surefire_L4.html
I disagree with Surefires built in mounts on the Scout lights, which is why I like the VTAC piece. Same exact light with no built in mount and half the cost...
If you need IR, slap a KM2 head on the above setup.

For camping an E2DL.

For everyday carry an E1B.

I wouldn't trust my life on any other flashlight.

I realize my suggestion for camping may not have enough throw for your uses.

I prefer this when I really need to reach out there.
http://pic100.picturetrail.com/VOL1137/3895841/23498924/392071953.jpg

And some more of my SF porn:
http://pic100.picturetrail.com/VOL1137/3895841/23498924/392071955.jpg

ExtremeX
09-22-2010, 1:48 PM
That Hell Fighter light is amazing.

Will it mount to the rail on my AR?... or better question, will my AR mount to the flashlight :rofl:

swrdply400mrelay
09-22-2010, 2:44 PM
For Campsite and EDC, check out the Fenix, Quark and 4Sevens brands. I highly recommend that you get something which takes AA batteries. CR123 batteries are just a pain.

The problem with alkaline AA's is that they self discharge, and have a chance of leaking which ruins your flashlight or device.

You could buy lithium AA's but they're quite expensive.

Lithiums will hold 80% of their charge for up to 10 years, so they're great for storage and for emergencies. They also don't leak like alkalines.

If you buy 123's by the dozen, it will tend to save you money. There was a thread on another forum that showed these 123's were very comparable to the Surefire 123's. These are only $1 a piece.

http://www.batteryjunction.com/tpen-tcr123a-.html

ExtremeX
09-22-2010, 2:52 PM
I do like Lith 123 batts.

Deals can often be found on ebay and battery websites.

The storage / emergency use it cant be beat, and with modern LED lights, with lower lumen modes, you can get a LOT of run time. It also has cold weather advantages if you are out in the elements.

Chances are ill have both eventually... 123 and AA models for those you never know times.

Blade
09-22-2010, 3:34 PM
I have an EOTECH XPS2, it takes CR123's so I prefer a flashlight that uses the same battery (EOTECH 512 = AA) so I only have to carry one type of battery and can always take the battery out of the flashlight if my sight battery dies. My EDC light is the same as my weapon light is the same as my camping light, a Quark 123 squared. With the money I saved, I was able to get the EOtech I wanted. 5 x Surefires = 1 Glock so I wouldn't go overboard when a Streamlight or Fenix will do.

Just my 1/2 cents :o

zod
09-22-2010, 3:36 PM
When I saw this, I thought it said "Fleshlights". I was gonna reply, "well, THAT'S a rather personal question!" LOL

EDC? Fleshlight! :rofl2:

Droppin Deuces
09-22-2010, 4:41 PM
I have an MTE M3-2I that I like a lot. Just don't bother mounting it on your gun. The recoil will make it change modes.

For a weapon light, I have a Surefire X300. Not the most advanced, but I dig it because it's nice and compact. And you can use it on your pistol as easily as your rifle.

You can find all kinds of nice lights at dealextreme, but I know they have some real duds on there, too, so beware.

chesterthehero
09-22-2010, 5:04 PM
i have a few lumaforce lights kicking around (http://www.lumaforce.com/) cheap but so far no issues.. theres always a booth at the crossroads gun shows.. same prices as online but without shipping.. usuially if you get a few he will knock a few bucks off..

i carry a 4sevens preon2 at work - link (http://www.4sevens.com/product_info.php?cPath=297_332_367&products_id=2087)

for car/camping ive got one of these (http://www.amazon.com/Makita-ML143-14-4-Volt-Fluorescent-Light/dp/B00080QHF4) makita 14v that somehow still works great after all these years... for just heading off into the woods alone.. well.. that never happens anymore... stupid girls..

Peter W Bush
09-22-2010, 5:09 PM
I have a Surefire M951 on my AR but used a Fenix, Pelican, and a cheapy S&W light for hunting which actually worked pretty well. My Fenix has been dropped a few times and sometimes flickers or doesn't turn on. I've beat the living crap out of a SF M6 before and it wouldn't stop working.

Soooo if you're actually going to use it for something important, get a Surefire. If you don't absolutely NEED it to work 100%, a Fenix, Streamlight, or Pelican will work just fine.

HumanBeingExpert
09-22-2010, 5:10 PM
I have a SF scout on my AR which is great.

The best light by far for EDC is this: http://hdssystems.com

I also like the X-Thrower by MG lite, good deal for 800 Lumens in a relatively small package

straykiller
09-22-2010, 6:53 PM
I bought one from a member on this site awhile back who makes them, 300 lumens with rechargeble batteries kicks *** havnt had to recharge theme once ill find his site and edit it in here when I remember it ill have to look for it

ExtremeX
09-22-2010, 8:22 PM
Surefire are nice but they are years behind on LED tech. They refuse to use the latest LED's and develop new lights that use a rechargeable 18650 diameter tube.

Example

Surefire = 200Lumen and surefire expensive batteries (they also limit the voltage range so you cant use rcr123)
Jetbeam= 1200 lumen and 18650 or rcr123 rechargeable Lion batteries and the jetbeam is cheaper and same quality (no voltage range limitation and programmable UI)

My money is on

Fenix
Eagletach
Jetbeam
Olight
Nitecore

And a host of others that innovate much quicker.......

If SF made an SST50 with a dimmer switch that did not cost 600 I would buy it but they dont.

http://www.michaelkdickson.com/webjunk/flashlights/DPP_0001a.jpg

The first light in that pict... Is that the JETBeam M1X?

How do you like it, and how do you think it compares to the TK30 Fenix?

You guys are getting me hook on flashlights lol. TK40 and TK45 are pretty cool too.

jtzshooters
09-22-2010, 8:31 PM
I love surefires but the $ to lumen ratio kills me & they aren't waterproof so i stick with Fenix hands down . Me & a couple buddies might do another 4sevens group buy if anyone in the Peninsula is interested .

MikeR
09-22-2010, 8:50 PM
Surefire G2 with a malkoff drop-in. 140 lumen with 4.5 hours of run time for about $70.

Im looking forward to getting an Olight M20, i hear good things.

Dubster
09-22-2010, 9:31 PM
I originally found that all LED lights didn't throw well. My Steamlight Strion is my favorite.

scootergmc
09-22-2010, 9:44 PM
Novatac.

ExtremeX
09-22-2010, 10:40 PM
Decided im going to try a Fenix TA21 first as my campsight flashlight.

http://goinggear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=14_18&products_id=212

If anyone was wondering why I picked this:
I like the 12 different modes, sometimes I dont need a lot of light when doing tasks around a dark desert, sometimes I do. General size, and ease of use with a dial type selector. I just hope the beam spread is good enought for a general purpose light. Hopefully its not too much spot lighting.

Thanks everyone. Its my first light, but im sure its not going to be my last.

runawayshawn
09-22-2010, 10:41 PM
IMO its also good to have a crank or shake flashlight just incase. my shake flashlight is led it works surprisingly well. also ive seen a video of modifyinig the crank flashlight to power ur cell phone, could help in a emergency.

ExtremeX
09-22-2010, 11:26 PM
IMO its also good to have a crank or shake flashlight just incase. my shake flashlight is led it works surprisingly well. also ive seen a video of modifyinig the crank flashlight to power ur cell phone, could help in a emergency.

I have a solar charger, but that may not help at night lol.

Jon Se
09-23-2010, 12:43 AM
I love surefires but the $ to lumen ratio kills me & they aren't waterproof so i stick with Fenix hands down . Me & a couple buddies might do another 4sevens group buy if anyone in the Peninsula is interested .

Eh? Which Surefire isn't waterproof?

I use a Solarforce L2 for EDC, amazing flashlight for the price. Extremely bright and runs two rechargable cr123s at 7.2v. The heads are swappable with any Surefire 6P sized head of which there are many. Anodizing is only type 2 but holds up well nonetheless.

I have a Surefire Winelight II with a Lumensfactory EO-E2R 7.2v lamp assembly outputting 150 lumens for use around the house. This simple upgrade turned this relatively cheap Surefire into something 2x the brightness of an E2E. Also running rechargeable cr123s.

I'm using a G2 LED with a R2 LED assembly replacement on my AR with a Pelican pressure switch mounted with Magpul's MOE Illumination Kit.

Also have a Surefire M6 Guardian and some more G2s laying around.

http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/1153/flashlight.jpg

ArkinDomino
09-23-2010, 1:55 AM
My glock and m&p have Surefire X300s. My SR15 has an X300 with pressure switch. I usually carry my Surefire Backup when on foot. My Surefire 6P sits in my car while my ED2 sits in my office. I have other Surefire lights in my garage and my kitchen. Lots of batteries too. I put a Surefire Titan in my girls fancy purse... she thought it was "cute". I kinda like Surefire. :cool:

problemchild
09-23-2010, 3:52 AM
A few more

Looking for the brightest lights on the market? We stock a huge selection of 400+ lumen lights:

* Fenix TK30 - 630 Lumens
* Fenix TK40 - 630 Lumens
* Fenix TK45 - 760 Lumens
* iTP A6 Polestar - 700 Lumens
* JETBeam M1X - 700 Lumens
* JETBeam M2S - 1000 Lumens
* JETBeam RRT-3 - 1200 Lumens
* Olight M21 - 500 Lumens
* Olight M30 - 700 Lumens
* Olight M31 - 800 Lumens
* Olight SR50 - 800 Lumens
* Olight SR90 - 2200 Lumens
* Olight SR91 - 1500 Lumens
* Surefire M3LT - 400 Lumens
* ThruNite Catapult - 1000 Lumens


http://goinggear.com/

Wir3d
09-23-2010, 5:55 AM
Ive been using a Solor Force L2 host from ebay (SF 6p clone). $20
Will accept a 18650.
Had a P7 made from Nailbender on CPF.
Tons of light for cheap(er). Maybe 80 bucks total.

Not a weapon light but my all around go to light.
On CPF there are folks who will make you a led to your desired specs.

k1dude
09-23-2010, 9:43 AM
The problem with alkaline AA's is that they self discharge, and have a chance of leaking which ruins your flashlight or device.

You could buy lithium AA's but they're quite expensive.

Lithiums will hold 80% of their charge for up to 10 years, so they're great for storage and for emergencies. They also don't leak like alkalines.

If you buy 123's by the dozen, it will tend to save you money. There was a thread on another forum that showed these 123's were very comparable to the Surefire 123's. These are only $1 a piece.

http://www.batteryjunction.com/tpen-tcr123a-.html

Buy rechargable Sanyo Eneloops. They're pretty cheap at Costco (8 AA's and 4 AAA's for around $25) and hold a charge for 3 years. I've been using them for years and they're great!

Wherryj
09-23-2010, 9:53 AM
Does anyone know where to get a rail mount for this?
http://www.law-17.com/images/plasma1.jpg

http://www.law-17.com/plasma-index.html

:rolleyes:

Wherryj
09-23-2010, 10:38 AM
IMO its also good to have a crank or shake flashlight just incase. my shake flashlight is led it works surprisingly well. also ive seen a video of modifyinig the crank flashlight to power ur cell phone, could help in a emergency.

Just watch out. Most crank lights have cheap circuitry and will be damaged with even a single overcharge (ie. crank just a few seconds too long).

I've found that all but the best (read "usually most expensive") brands will stop working after a few uses. They are often lights that cannot be counted upon.

Fozz
09-23-2010, 11:24 AM
http://www.gofastandlight.com/prodin...ZAP&variation=

For an every day carryflash light try this on for size, it knocked me on my a** when I let my GF test it on me!

caoboy
09-23-2010, 1:23 PM
http://www.gofastandlight.com/prodin...ZAP&variation=

For an every day carryflash light try this on for size, it knocked me on my a** when I let my GF test it on me!

Link fail.

SFgiants105
09-23-2010, 1:30 PM
When I saw this, I thought it said "Fleshlights". I was gonna reply, "well, THAT'S a rather personal question!" LOL

:rofl2:

Mine mounts onto my rail. It's back up in case I'm outta ammo and I know I'm gonna die. lol.

But seriously, I'm about to get a 1911 w/o a rail. What methods do you guys use to hold the light? Btw, what's a good strobe/ red (night)/ waterproof flashlight? I couldn't imagine having to spend over $60 for a really good one.

Ishoot
09-23-2010, 3:11 PM
Surefire lights with Malkoff device conversions on all of them. 240 lumens for 2 hours.

I have this and the Maglite w/ Malkoff too. Nice thread though, added a couple more to my wish list because of it. :)

Toast
09-23-2010, 6:53 PM
I originally bought my Quark 123 Turbo as a weapon light for my AR but I really love it as EDC... I may have to buy another one. It's a GREAT little light, it hardly weighs anything and has really good throw. It will easily throw enough light out to 100 yards to identify your target and still has nice spill, plus the programmable modes make it perfect for a rifle. You dont have to click through different modes, just set two (tight or loose bezel) and you're ready to go. $70 shipped to your door is AMAZING. I can't even tell you how good a light it is.

Fenix makes good lights too but for throw the Turbo is great, especially for the price. I honestly wouldn't bother with Surefire, yea they're tacticool but extremely overpriced for what you get. $500 for 200 lumens??? The cheapest Scout light is $335 for a 110 lumen light, what a ripoff.

ExtremeX
09-23-2010, 6:57 PM
I originally bought my Quark 123 Turbo as a weapon light for my AR but I really love it as EDC... I may have to buy another one. It's a GREAT little light, it hardly weighs anything and has really good throw. It easy throws light out to 100 yards and has nice spill, plus the programmable modes make it perfect for a rifle. You dont have to click through different modes, just set two (tight or loose bezel) and you're ready to go. $70 shipped to your door is AMAZING. I can't even tell you how good a light it is.

Fenix makes good lights too but for throw the Turbo is great, especially for the price. I honestly wouldn't bother with Surefire, yea they're tacticool but extremely overpriced for what you get. $500 for 200 lumens??? The cheapest Scout light is $335 for a 110 lumen light, what a ripoff.


You referring to the Quark 123 squared Turbo? Thatís a sweet light too, just like the Fenix PD30, I may get that as my weapon light because I do like the program mode and how it works.

In regards to throw, the Fenix PD30 R2 LED throws far, but the R4 is more of a flood.

Im going to sign up at Candle Power Forums... I think I just started a new hobby, accidently.

Toast
09-23-2010, 7:05 PM
Yea I have the 123 squared Turbo, I'm in love with my light :D . I just wish there was a more elegant way of mounting it.