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IrishPirate
09-20-2010, 7:48 PM
Got the wife to agree to let me get my Remington 700 LTR .308 around Christmas time. Won't be able to use it this deer season unfortunately, but it'll give me plenty of time to zero it in for next season. So, on that note, I need a good scope for less than $150. nothing super fancy, just something that will stay zeroed on a .308 (i'm adding a muzzle brake to reduce recoil and help eliminate this problem) and has a standard duplex or mil-dot reticle with range finder (maybe illumination, maybe not, not sure how much it actually helps) and variable magnification. I'm thinking Bushnell, but i'd like the opinions of my fellow calgunners since i have some time to shop around and see what i like. Thanks in advance everyone.... :thumbsup:



to help clear things up, this isn't going to be just a hunting rifle. I want to do some long range shooting too. Eventually I'll slap something like a Bushnell 6500 4.5-30x50 DOA 600 (http://www.bushnell.com/products/scopes/riflescopes/elite6500/654305B/), or a Leupold VX-7L 4.5-18x56 Long Range (http://www.leupold.com/hunting-and-shooting/products/scopes/vx-7-riflescopes/vx-7l-4-5-18x56mm-long-range/) on it, but for now i just want to be able to see things out a few hundred yards and practice from there. thanks

Fjold
09-20-2010, 8:29 PM
If you're going to spend $150 or so for the brake (threading, etc), why not just spend $300 on the scope and not worry about it.

ChrisTKHarris
09-20-2010, 8:49 PM
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IrishPirate
09-20-2010, 8:51 PM
Fjold: because i want both and the scope isn't going to reduce felt recoil for follow up shots....

good call chris....changed it :D

tomd1584
09-20-2010, 9:19 PM
bushnell 3200 10x

http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&q=bushnell+3200+10x&um=1&ie=UTF-8&cid=2129212311222374896&ei=VECYTMS4C4u2sAPOmZnNDA&sa=X&oi=product_catalog_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCgQ8wIwAA#

IrishPirate
09-20-2010, 9:34 PM
bushnell 3200 10x

http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&q=bushnell+3200+10x&um=1&ie=UTF-8&cid=2129212311222374896&ei=VECYTMS4C4u2sAPOmZnNDA&sa=X&oi=product_catalog_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCgQ8wIwAA#


couldn't tell from the picture or description, is it a fixed magnification? looking for something that is variable (4x12 range). i'll put it in the OP.

rksimple
09-21-2010, 6:31 AM
couldn't tell from the picture or description, is it a fixed magnification? looking for something that is variable (4x12 range). i'll put it in the OP.

Its fixed.

For $150 you're not going to get anything that will work reliably under field conditions if you're going to be twisting knobs and doing any long range work. The Nikon Buckmaster 4.5-14 mildot is one of the best options for you, but its more than you want to spend. The limited internal elevation adjustment will take you to 800 yards or so without a sloped base.

Maestro Pistolero
09-21-2010, 7:09 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmRc9gcvtwg

IrishPirate
09-21-2010, 11:33 AM
Its fixed.

For $150 you're not going to get anything that will work reliably under field conditions if you're going to be twisting knobs and doing any long range work. The Nikon Buckmaster 4.5-14 mildot is one of the best options for you, but its more than you want to spend. The limited internal elevation adjustment will take you to 800 yards or so without a sloped base.

hmmmm.....well i'm thinking mostly deer hunting ranges (<200yds) so i'm sure it will open up my options a little. If i want to get into the 800+ yrd range i'll definitely spend the money on a good scope, but right now i'm trying to keep it in budget. I'm thinking of this scope (http://www.bushnell.com/products/scopes/riflescopes/banner/713959I/) which i've seen on ebay for $80...any thoughts?

checkenbach
09-21-2010, 11:42 AM
Simmons White Tail Classic 6.5-20x50
http://www.midwayusa.com/browse/BrowseProducts.aspx?pageNum=1&tabId=10&categoryId=15282&categoryString=657***11392***11396***15273***&brandId=1156
I had one on an airgun and it was a great scope for the money.

Maestro Pistolero
09-21-2010, 12:45 PM
because i want both and the scope isn't going to reduce felt recoil for follow up shots....Get a better scope and you won't need a follow up shot!

Too bad you can't stretch to at least a Super Sniper 10X. They sell used for under $300 on Ebay. Seen 'em go for $250. It's a helluva value.

rksimple
09-21-2010, 1:00 PM
For deer hunting at under 200 yards, a fixed 10x is the last thing you want. That bushnell looks OK, but I would be cautious. You get what you pay for.

wash
09-21-2010, 1:37 PM
If they still have it, Natchez was closing out Nitrex scopes.

The TR-2 line is essentially a re-badged Weaver Super Slam. They are made at LOW in Japan and the glass is nice. The turrets are pretty cool too.

I would look at the TR-2 2-10x42 with plex reticle. I think it's about $150 after rebate.

I bought a TR-2 3-15x42 with the EBX reticle and side focus paralax and I'm starting to think I should have saved the $90 and gone for the 2-10x42 with the plex. I might buy one for a rifle to be named later if there are any left.

ExtremeX
09-21-2010, 1:54 PM
Checkout Vortex and Redfeild, I love them for budget scopes.

I have a Vortex Diamondback 3-9x40 cost me $200, same thing from Redfeild is about $150.

IrishPirate
09-21-2010, 4:52 PM
Get a better scope and you won't need a follow up shot!

Too bad you can't stretch to at least a Super Sniper 10X. They sell used for under $300 on Ebay. Seen 'em go for $250. It's a helluva value.

i'll look into the more expensive ones too just incase i see them on sale, or the wife releases some more funds. :D

BamBam-31
09-21-2010, 5:29 PM
I had a Bushnell 3200 5-15x40mm Tactical that worked pretty well. Same as the 10x, but variable up to 15x. Bought it on Randall's recommendation. I'd go either with that or the 10x Bushnell 3200 w/ Mil-Mil.

Don't forget to check Ebay for deals on scopes.

Air
09-21-2010, 6:35 PM
I have the Bushnell 3200 10x, it's decent.

wash
09-22-2010, 3:47 PM
Scopes also made at LOW:

Bushnell Elite
Tasco Super Sniper
Nightforce

When I compared my Nitrex to a 1.1-4x24 Schmidt & Bender at 3x zoom in low light, the Nitrex was just a hair darker but the S&B did have more field of view. That's the difference between a $1,500 scope and a ~$500 scope (on clearance for $240). The 2-10x is just missing the side focus and has lower magnification (and more field of view).

I think the Nitrex should compare well against a Bushnell Elite, but with a better zoom range and lower cost...

Jon Se
09-22-2010, 9:19 PM
hmmmm.....well i'm thinking mostly deer hunting ranges (<200yds) so i'm sure it will open up my options a little. If i want to get into the 800+ yrd range i'll definitely spend the money on a good scope, but right now i'm trying to keep it in budget. I'm thinking of this scope (http://www.bushnell.com/products/scopes/riflescopes/banner/713959I/) which i've seen on ebay for $80...any thoughts?

I've had that on a .30-06 which tore it apart internally. I've actually spent about $30 on shipping back to Bushnell already for all the repair trips. First trip was for a dislodged reticule and the second was for a dislodged O-ring near the ocular. Not to mention the warranty service has a 2 month turnaround time per trip. I'd go with something else on a 308.

IrishPirate
09-25-2010, 10:40 AM
I've had that on a .30-06 which tore it apart internally. I've actually spent about $30 on shipping back to Bushnell already for all the repair trips. First trip was for a dislodged reticule and the second was for a dislodged O-ring near the ocular. Not to mention the warranty service has a 2 month turnaround time per trip. I'd go with something else on a 308.

wow, good to know. thanks for that! I was thinking about that one for my Kel-Tec anyways so maybe i'll get it for that and give it a try on my LTR after the muzzlebrake is installed.....I'm still keeping an eye out for a good deal on the ones you guys have mentioned so far though, thank you all for the help!

a79flhrider
09-25-2010, 5:36 PM
I bought a 'Top of the Line' BSA, MD624X40IR target/hunting rifle scope with illuminated mil-dot reticle from EBay for 98 bucks. I wasn't expecting much for that price, (you get what you pay for). I received it, looked it over and it looked good. One piece tube, matte black. But when I turned on the illumination, I was impressed! Only the mil-dots lit up. I installed it on my brand new R-25 and took it out to zero it in. First shot at 100 yds was on paper 2 inches low of point of aim. After I got it dialed in I hit a 16 inch steel plate at 475 yds!
Now I was really impressed, and for only 98 dollars.
I have a Leupold 6.5X20 that I will use eventually but for now and as long as the BSA scope holds zero, I'll keep it mounted.
Look on Ebay for that BSA. I think you'll like it.

shortround1
09-25-2010, 10:47 PM
Putting a $150 scope on a Remington 700 is kind of like putting a plastic toy in a surgeon's hands.

IrishPirate
09-26-2010, 2:02 PM
Putting a $150 scope on a Remington 700 is kind of like putting a plastic toy in a surgeon's hands.

I'll gladly take any donations to help stop such an atrocity from happening.....

toby
09-26-2010, 2:21 PM
If it's for hunting you dont need a muzzle brake for follow up shot's and especially on a 308? put the cash in the scope.

strangerdude
09-26-2010, 2:22 PM
Bushnell Elite 3200 10x40 is the best choice you can go with. $200 new but might find a used one for $150.

Stockton
09-26-2010, 2:45 PM
I wouldn't even get a scope for 200yd work. Wasted weight and space on a hunting rifle. You are looking at a pretty big kill zone at 200 or less. Pick up a $100 knock off Red Dot and a cheap 1 piece base from Primaryarms.com . Zero for 200yds and hunt.

winxp_man
09-26-2010, 4:15 PM
Try looking at a Hawke scope here is my small review of the Hawke Sidewinder Tactical 30 that I got for 388 dollars.

here is the link.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=330351

I was also able to throw in a small box test for the scope.

cj1026
09-27-2010, 10:07 AM
I have a Nikon Buckmaster Prostaff on a 17hmr and a Pentax Pioneer on a 22lr.
Both are pretty good. The Pentax started off on my .30-06, so they are pretty solid to.

IrishPirate
09-27-2010, 2:23 PM
If it's for hunting you dont need a muzzle brake for follow up shot's and especially on a 308? put the cash in the scope.

I wouldn't even get a scope for 200yd work. Wasted weight and space on a hunting rifle. You are looking at a pretty big kill zone at 200 or less. Pick up a $100 knock off Red Dot and a cheap 1 piece base from Primaryarms.com . Zero for 200yds and hunt.

not just for hunting....but will be used for that as well

Pthfndr
09-27-2010, 8:09 PM
Unless you are willing to spend some dollars you aren't going to get everything you want.

But if this is primarily for hunting, check out the review I just posted about the Vortex Viper 2-7x. This would be a very good scope for hunting.

And unless you are shooting at tiny dots on paper, it has enough elevation travel and magnification to get you out to 600-800 yards.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=346837

KAPCO
09-29-2010, 9:40 PM
I know what you mean you get what you pay for, I have a whitetail monster on it and it is pretty sad holding 0 I also hae the 3rd gen mound and it gets loose, Blue Loctite?
I will die if I get a SA scope but I know they are scarce, I like the rangefinder integration. 30mm tube and a lifetime warranty for real. I got a new bold and extractor on my SA with free shipping shoots like a sewing machine.