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Dan_K
09-10-2010, 3:14 PM
Been thinking about this debate for a while, going back and forth.

Trying to choose one, I can get the G17 for a tiny bit cheaper. Both fit my hands fine, I shoot both the same and they feel equally comfortable. I do like the full size, but already have a few other full size 9's. No intent to CCW, maybe holster around the house. I don't remember which one I was more accurate with, but I am sure they would be close. Just don't know what size I want.

Anyone that used to be in the same dilemma?

Shady
09-10-2010, 3:24 PM
they are pretty much the same
the 17 should be more accurate
but who knows
I own a 19

asme
09-10-2010, 3:35 PM
I was, and I went for a 17. My reasoning was this:

The 19 is the swiss army knife of guns. It can CCW, it can compete, it can open a beer can, and so on. Reality checking, I didn't want my *** in prison for half a year for illegally CCWing, so CCW was out, and my big manly hands were a little too big for the 19. Most men I know prefer the 17. Most women I know prefer the 19.

It was also a question of if I bought another Glock, would I feel like I was buying an overlapping or unnecessary gun? If I had a 19, and bought a 17, I'd just have something a widdle bit bigger. If I had a 19, and bought a 26, I'd have something a widdle bit smaller. The difference wouldn't be huge, so I'd feel like a bit of a ham.

Knowing that I wasn't going to use it, ever, for CCW, I went with a 17. I'm kind of butthurt I didn't go for a 34 at the time. If CCW ever becomes a viable option in this state, I'll get a 26, and be fully satisfied with it.

Hope that stream of consciousness helps.

Oceanbob
09-10-2010, 3:48 PM
Been thinking about this debate for a while, going back and forth.

Trying to choose one, I can get the G17 for a tiny bit cheaper. Both fit my hands fine, I shoot both the same and they feel equally comfortable. I do like the full size, but already have a few other full size 9's. No intent to CCW, maybe holster around the house. I don't remember which one I was more accurate with, but I am sure they would be close. Just don't know what size I want.

Anyone that used to be in the same dilemma?

It's the Mid Size 9mm....and the most popular.

Some say to get the 23 (.40 same frame and slide size) and buy a 9 conversion kit from Lonewolf.

http://www.lonewolfdist.com/Detail.aspx?PROD=984&CAT=241

http://www.lonewolfdist.com/Detail.aspx?PROD=983&CAT=241

I've shot a couple hundred round thru a 23 with the conversion kit...not a problem. Of course 9mm is cheaper than .40...but .40 is such a good defense round. etc...

Glock 19:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ri5AyXzxb4o


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2O7K8MawTs&feature=channel


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLok99be1JU&feature=channel

Colt-45
09-10-2010, 3:54 PM
*Bookmarked for future reference*

I'm having this exact same issue. Cant decide between the two and I only want 1.

I think I'm gonna go with the G17 in RTF2 or Gen4 (not regular gen 3)

The 19 seems a little bit too small for my tastes. I didn't like how part of the back of my hand is off the grip.

In the future I plan on ccw but not everyday carry so the G17 should be ok in the winter/fall, If I was gonna carry every day I would not carry a G17. I have only shot the G19 and the G21. The G17 isn't as thick or big as I thought. Even though the G21 is 45acp I was under the impression that all the full size Glocks were gonna be thick but I was wrong. This past wednesday I got to compare 3 G17's, the RTF2, GEN4 and the regular one. I'm gonna go with either the RTF2 or the GEN4. I'm gonna compare them one last time when i go pick up my M6.

The Gen4 has a slightly slimmer grip than the Gen3, especially with the slim back strap.

I can always get a G19 later when I ACTUALLY get a CCW anyways. This wont be happening in the immediate future.

We currently have a 92FS but I need a super rugged "I don't give a ****" type of gun, I don't like to abuse any of my full metal/blued guns. This is the spot only a Glock can fill.

barca101
09-10-2010, 3:56 PM
I carry a 17 on duty and carry a 19 off duty. Both are excellent pistol, but I would choose the 19 over the 17. My personel reasoning and experience behind is the 19 for a compact is as accurate and durable as the 17. When I went to qualify to carry the 19 for on duty, I found myself to be even more accurate. It shoots and operates like a full size glock. I like the compact grip size even though it has -2 less rounds and when I ccw it does not print. If you get the chance try shooting both of them and decide. The glock itself is weapon that you can depend on. You won't go wrong with either.

HCz
09-10-2010, 3:58 PM
I agree with barca101's experience(I don't CCW though). For me 19 just felt better and shot the same compared to 17. There is nothing wrong with a Glock 17. If that is what you like, go for it.

HighLander51
09-10-2010, 4:02 PM
Well, I CCW a G19, but shoot competition with a G17. If you only have one , get a G17. This is my opinion from owning over a dozen Glocks and shooting every weekend (with Glocks) for the last 18 years. Current inventory is 3 17's, G20, G31, G24, G19, G23. Past included 2 G21's, G26, G34, G17L, G30, G22.

Colt-45
09-10-2010, 4:22 PM
We need pics. I thought I would add some eyecandy:

http://shootingimpulse.com/Assets/Gun%20Photos/Glocl%2017_9mm%20RTF2-001.jpg

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/4041/glock19rtf2nyb173.jpg

http://www.everydaynodaysoff.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Glock-Generation-4-1.jpg

map
09-10-2010, 4:34 PM
If no plans to ccw might as well get the benefit of a longer sight radius.

OneSevenDeuce
09-10-2010, 4:46 PM
I have had both. I currently have the 17. Is one more accurate than the other? Probably not in any way that would be perceptible to you and me. Both guns can shoot better than I do. I have the 17 because I just like full sized pistols. It is my HD gun and I feel confident with it. I would feel the same with a 19. I don't currently own a 19 but I will soon. Why? Because I love Glocks. :D

Bottom line, either way you are good. The 19 might be smaller but it isn't MUCH smaller

cineski
09-10-2010, 5:57 PM
Fo some reason I shot the 19 more accurately than the 17. I own a 19 and plan on getting a 17 or 34 at some point since I am now used to Glocks and shoot them all very accurately.

Greg-Dawg
09-10-2010, 5:59 PM
Be cool like me: Get a G17 (Generation 4 model)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/Gregdog/Pin%20Ups/G17Gen43006.jpg

amd64
09-10-2010, 6:02 PM
G19.

The Cable Guy
09-10-2010, 6:03 PM
This thread seems to need more pictures! Here's my G19. Its a little more worn now than pictured.


http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f380/djglox/Glock%2019/DSC_0211-S-1.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f380/djglox/Glock%2019/DSC_0212-S.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f380/djglox/Glock%2019/DSC_0213-S.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f380/djglox/Glock%2019/DSC_0215-S.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f380/djglox/Glock%2019/DSC_0209-S-1.jpg

Greg-Dawg
09-10-2010, 6:16 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/Gregdog/Pin%20Ups/GKnife002.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/Gregdog/Pin%20Ups/G17Gen42008.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/Gregdog/Pin%20Ups/G17Gen42007.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/Gregdog/Pin%20Ups/G17Gen42004.jpg

Colt-45
09-10-2010, 7:12 PM
This thread needs a poll.

We Are Apocalypse
09-10-2010, 8:09 PM
I'm selling my Sig (supposedly the holy grail of pistols) for another Glock 19 (which I sold earlier this year). Just something about the Glock 19 that feels right. I hated the high bore axis of the Sig and the DA/SA trigger

fullspeed1
09-10-2010, 8:22 PM
If no plans to ccw might as well get the benefit of a longer sight radius.

You wont even notice the difference between the 17 and 19, In terms of sight radius. I have owned both. The 5" Glock 34 is where a longer radius is noticeable.

Skter505
09-10-2010, 8:48 PM
The better debate IMO would be 19 or 34. I have no use for a 17, 34 is full size, about the same size as a 1911. 19 is good for carry when you don't want a full size.

nn3453
09-10-2010, 9:32 PM
If you don't plan to carry, never give up the advantage of a full size gun. Get the 17.

Joe
09-10-2010, 9:34 PM
I got the 19. Just cause.

joeAR47
09-10-2010, 10:08 PM
go full size...glock 17 RTF

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_ivdBavFW6xU/S5jfi9qi3jI/AAAAAAAAGTE/Lbm01K2ciNk/s800/DSC_0196.JPG

STROLLER
09-10-2010, 10:56 PM
go 22 and get a lone wolf 9mm conversion barrel. I reload 9 and have .40 just because. i liked the 2 calibers in one frame idea. of course you can go 23 with 9mm conversion too. if there are no plans to carry go full size.

thefinger
09-10-2010, 11:22 PM
My opinion is that the 19 is more practical.

Easier to carry on belt or IWB (even if just around the house).

Basically the same accuracy (and if you're going for crazy-good accuracy you should just get the model 34 for an extra $80)

The grip is effectively "full-size" even though the 19 is marketed as "compact." I have big hands, and the 17 doesn't give me better grip at all.

If you want the extra 2 rounds that the model 17 magazines would get you then just add a +2 baseplate to the model 19 magazines (or if you don't have pre-ban mags then you're stuck with 10 rounds either way so it doesn't matter).

Model 19 gives you everything you need, and it's more versatile than the larger models. The only reason to go bigger is if you are planning on competing and want the marginally better accuracy of the longer barrel and sight radius.

UserM4
09-10-2010, 11:28 PM
19 if you're gonna use it mainly for self defense and possibly carrying in the future or out of state.

17 if you're gonna punch paper or shoot competitions as well as home defense. Longer sight radius and heavier gun makes for a more accurate gun with better recoil management and higher scores.

Colt-45
09-10-2010, 11:31 PM
Can't wait to turn 21 and pick up a G17 RTF2. A month + 10 days to go!

stphnman20
09-10-2010, 11:33 PM
It's like which one do you prefer the M4 or an M16? and why?the G19 being the M4 and the G17 being the M16.

cineski
09-11-2010, 6:14 AM
There is no holy grail of guns. Only what works for the individual. SIG of yesterday was much closer to any holiness vs. the crap company of today.

I'm selling my Sig (supposedly the holy grail of pistols) for another Glock 19 (which I sold earlier this year). Just something about the Glock 19 that feels right. I hated the high bore axis of the Sig and the DA/SA trigger

cineski
09-11-2010, 6:17 AM
I don't entirely agree, although you do make a good point. To me, on my first try-out range trip session w/ Glocks, the G17 and G19 did feel quite a bit different to me. I'm sure the 34 is even more accentuated but I have such a hard time w/ that stupid cut out slide. I really wish the G34's slide didn't have this or the melted front of the slide. For this reason alone I'm leaning toward the 17 over 34.

The better debate IMO would be 19 or 34. I have no use for a 17, 34 is full size, about the same size as a 1911. 19 is good for carry when you don't want a full size.

bigbob76
09-11-2010, 7:55 AM
I'm having difficulty following the logic that those who have ruled out any possibility of CCW in the future would choose the 17. The 19 may be the most versatile Glock made. If I wanted something larger why would I choose the 17 over the 34? A few dollars? I traded for a 23 once because it fit my 19 IWB holster. I found it miserable to shoot and couldn't wait to get rid of it. The 34 is a lot of gun for the money. I say shoot it right out of the box until you can get small groups and then change sights etc. to get smaller groups. Training and practice beats gadgets every time as far as I can see.

thomasanelson
09-11-2010, 8:15 AM
I have owned all three of the 9mm versions. If I had to choose just one, it would be the 19. Easy enough to carry conceiled, but big enough get a "full frame" grip. If there was any chance of actually carrying concieled, I would go with the 26. If the gun were only to be used as a range/home gun, I would seriously thing about the 17. Just one thing to consider....it seems to me there are more 17s for sale in the WTS forum than 19s.

themailman
09-11-2010, 8:20 AM
To me, the 19 was the more practical choice. I carry in my home state, I use it for HD here, and it fits my hand like a glove. The 17 felt awkward to me.

Oh, and a pic...
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f198/glockfire/005.jpg

joe_sun
09-11-2010, 8:29 AM
The better debate IMO would be 19 or 34. I have no use for a 17, 34 is full size, about the same size as a 1911. 19 is good for carry when you don't want a full size.

This

The G19 fits my hand better but if you're going full size get the 34.

bsg
09-11-2010, 8:37 AM
those are both very good handguns. i would probably opt for the G19 because of it's size, rather than despite it.

if i found a great deal on a 1st or 2nd generation G17 i might very well go for that; if my astrological money moons were in sync with the stars.... :willy_nilly:

i actually have a G26 on an extended layaway. i am replacing one that i sold many years ago.

evidens83
09-11-2010, 2:26 PM
G19

SIGman Freud
09-11-2010, 4:09 PM
I don't like the 4th Gen (or rough textured 3rd gen) Glocks. I think that texturing looks cheap, and doesn't feel good on the hands (to me, anyways).

That said, the 3rd gen G19! Well......his little brother, the G26, too! :D

SIGman Freud
09-11-2010, 4:17 PM
To me, the 19 was the more practical choice. I carry in my home state, I use it for HD here, and it fits my hand like a glove. The 17 felt awkward to me.

Oh, and a pic...
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f198/glockfire/005.jpg

I'm diggin' that olive drab frame. :drool5:

shortround1
09-11-2010, 4:33 PM
Stop teasing with gen 4 pictures.

To the O.P. if you get a g19 you can always use g17 magazines (If you're ever in a free state).

Greg-Dawg
09-11-2010, 5:43 PM
I'm diggin' that olive drab frame. :drool5:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/Gregdog/Pin%20Ups/1-31-10009.jpg

JTROKS
09-11-2010, 5:53 PM
I used to have a similar dilemma until it dawned on me. Needed a compact self defense pistol, solved that with a G23. I needed a sub compact back up, which resulted in a G27. Needed a full size to compliment both and solved it with a G35, but I ended up buying your LW 40-9 G35 barrel from you to shoot cheaper bullets and brass. The barrel turned out to be an accurate combo for my G35 conversion. Thanks again.

SIGman Freud
09-11-2010, 6:53 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/Gregdog/Pin%20Ups/1-31-10009.jpg

YEAAHHHH! :mnl:

rojocorsa
09-11-2010, 7:11 PM
I've had the dilemma in my head before. Currently, I'm leaning towards getting a GLOCK 17 when legally possible.

But I have actually put a mag through the GLOCK 19---and it felt pretty normal sized. I think that in pictures, the gun looks smaller than it really is. I've never fired a 17, only held them. The larger grip didn't seem to affect me, but I would still like trigger time with both guns. So far my mind remains open, but I do lean more towards the 17. I have a friend who carries one appendix full time in Free America and it doesn't seem to give him any beef.

Baconator
09-11-2010, 7:14 PM
Get both.

I prefer the 19 because of the versatility of being able to carry it, if I were ever allowed to, with it sill being large enough to not need the mag extensions like my 27 does.

bsg
09-11-2010, 8:50 PM
I used to have a similar dilemma until it dawned on me. Needed a compact self defense pistol, solved that with a G23. I needed a sub compact back up, which resulted in a G27. Needed a full size to compliment both and solved it with a G35, but I ended up buying your LW 40-9 G35 barrel from you to shoot cheaper bullets and brass. The barrel turned out to be an accurate combo for my G35 conversion. Thanks again.


sounds good. a man with a plan.... :)

RollingCode3
09-12-2010, 4:51 AM
My first gun was a Glock 17. Five years later I sold it and bought a glock 19.

BHPFan
09-12-2010, 6:05 AM
G19.

As mentioned by others, it is the most versatile of the 9mm Glocks: concealable and still shoots just as good as the G17.

If I want to go for a 9mm Glock that can outshoot the G19 in the accuracy department, I'll go for the G17L or the G34.

xxINKxx
09-12-2010, 6:25 AM
I went for the 17 due to im never gunna conceal it. Also a gun thats 1" smaller wont benefit me at home for personal protection.

I used to own a Gen 2 Glock 19 and now recently bought a Gen 3 Glock 17 RTF2. Im definatly happier with the 17 since I shoot targets and go to the desert with it. To me I see no point in buying the smaller version since im going to shoot it alot, and dont need to ccw. The 17 is the perfect size, not too small, and still not very big

DevilDawgJJ
09-12-2010, 3:05 PM
Some say to get the 23 (.40 same frame and slide size) and buy a 9 conversion kit from Lonewolf.



I have the 22, couldn't I just buy the Glock OEM 9mm barrel instead of the lonewolf and shoot it?

jdg30
09-12-2010, 3:52 PM
Been thinking about this debate for a while, going back and forth.

Trying to choose one, I can get the G17 for a tiny bit cheaper. Both fit my hands fine, I shoot both the same and they feel equally comfortable. I do like the full size, but already have a few other full size 9's. I don't remember which one I was more accurate with, but I am sure they would be close. Just don't know what size I want.

Anyone that used to be in the same dilemma?

I had the same dilemma when I was looking between the two and I ended up getting the G19. They were both comfortable to hold. The G19 fit my hand perfect. The G17 hung out the bottom of my hand some, but it pointed very naturally and was very comfortable to hold. When it came down to mag capacity though, it seemed unnecessary to have the extra grip length without any added mag capacity (in CA). I still went back and forth for a while but ended up choosing the G19 and haven't regretted it one bit. I have considered getting a G17 also but can't really justify a purpose for it and I know it would just sit in the safe.

I generally like to have guns that are more of a concealable size. If I was going to have the gun for strictly range use and I was allowed to have full capacity magazines, I would probably get a G17 over a G19.

jdg30
09-12-2010, 3:54 PM
I have the 22, couldn't I just buy the Glock OEM 9mm barrel instead of the lonewolf and shoot it?

You need to get a 40-9 conversion barrel because the outside diameter of the 9mm barrel is less than the diameter of a .40 barrel. The conversion barrels have the same outside diameter of the .40 barrel but are chambered for 9mm.

23 Blast
09-12-2010, 3:55 PM
I went through this "dilemma" (as if choosing between two more toys could be a dilemma!) and wound up with a G19. Why? I already had two full-size 9mm pistols, a CZ-75B, and a Beretta 92FS. Didn't feel like the G17 (or the G34 for that matter) would give me anything my other nines didn't provide (except to provide them with an ugly sister).

I went to the range, rented a G19, and although I never did like Glocks before that, I was very impressed afterward. I also rented the G17, just for comparison, but it seemed to me that the G19 balanced better in my hand than the full sized G17.

Other than it's Gawd-awful looks and it's IKEA plasticity, the G19 is just a great, great gun. Like an ugly sports car that just feels and performs *right* to you. The crunchy safe action trigger takes a bit of getting used to, but since I also shoot my S&W 66 quite a lot in DA mode, I just think of the Glock as a double action revolver that has a box magazine instead of a revolving cylinder. Great gun in all respects, (except looks) and if I had to have a competition for "which will be my one and only gun?" it would be hard to justify why the G19 wouldn't win it.

resident-shooter
09-12-2010, 4:14 PM
Sig

tbhracing
09-13-2010, 11:28 AM
OP- Get both, I did.