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Falstaff
09-09-2010, 5:15 PM
I just recently DROS'ed a Ruger SRH .454, I can't wait to try it out. I have a GP100 and I must admit, shooting hotter .357 rounds has actually got me flinching again. Is this "hawg leg" .454 appreciably more violent than a .357?

Also, anyone know where the cheapest place to get .454 rounds?

kdm
09-09-2010, 5:32 PM
Yep...it'll have appreciably more recoil. I *think* you can fire lower recoiling 45 Colt for practice. 454 Casul ain't cheap...check Ammoman, or Ammo Genie.

professorhard
09-09-2010, 5:34 PM
Expect some serious recoil and expensive a** ammo!

Rule .308
09-09-2010, 5:35 PM
Yes, you will definitely know you are shooting something that is for sure. I shoot mostly 45 Colt out of mine and it is nice and easy to shoot at that point.

Brian2217
09-09-2010, 6:42 PM
I have the Ruger Grizzly 454. It will get peoples attention real fast and it's a blast to shoot. Ammo is not cheap and yes, you will know your shooting a handcannon.

SnWnMe
09-09-2010, 10:07 PM
500 S&W FTW

shotcaller6
09-09-2010, 10:13 PM
A rollicking good time although hard on the wallet.

Droc101
09-09-2010, 10:13 PM
500 S&W FTW

I like the 460 ballistics better :)

Munk
09-10-2010, 12:22 AM
You can expect to suddenly find yourself very interested in reloading.

You can also expect a feeling of holding true power in the palm of your hand.

Ed_Hazard
09-10-2010, 12:47 AM
The SRHK in 454 casull is awesome. If you want a little better recoil control get some good finger gripped hand filling grips that will allow the gun to roll a little better in your hand.

The ammo is not cheap, and reloading is the way to go if you really want to push the gun and youreklf to the edge. Sure you can shoot 45LC but the hotter the loads the better. I lucked out and Dan the owner of the LAX Range cut me a great deal on a large cache of Corbon factory ammo. 320 Grain Penetrators to be exact, that has been my range load for a while now. Shot some of these at the Angeles shoot this Labor Day.

5shot
09-10-2010, 1:22 AM
I love the big magnums. I've got two .454's, a Freedom Arms and Raging Bull, that I hunt with. So far I've taken pigs and a elk with .454. Had a Super Redhawk that I passed down to one of my sons. Out of the 3, the Ruger handled recoil the best.
If your not use to shooting anything bigger then a .357, your in for a reality check. You probably won't even notice much recoil shooting .45 LC's. Since you don't have a .44 mag, it'll be a harder jump up to the .454. But it's not that hard to get use to. And since the SRH is quite a bit heavier then most .357's, that helps too. What I like to do is shoot a few cylinders full of .454, and then it makes shooting my .44 mags fun again.
Ammo is outrageously expensive. Something like $30-40 for 20 rounds! If you only reload one cartridge, reloading .454 will soon pay for your equipment investment.

wrdavis
09-10-2010, 5:00 AM
Watch out for hammer in the forehead.

lazs
09-10-2010, 6:37 AM
I have never thought that .357's had any recoil to speak of.

My 4" 44 mag guns have some recoil.

The 454 has a lot of recoil.

If you think the .357 has recoil then the 454 will be off your chart.

maddoggie13
09-10-2010, 8:32 AM
Lot of fun...recoil is not that bad. Love my 500 S&W...need to reload. Why not buy the 460?

dfletcher
09-10-2010, 10:35 AM
There's a little side effect to blasting away with the larger calibers, at least the way I shoot them there is. I have an Encore & Contender with some pretty good calibers (405, 350, 45/70, 375s) and I tend to let the gun ride when I'm shooting heavier calibers. A 308, 8mm Mauser, 260, 25.06 and other medium bores are pretty easy to handle, but 375 & above I don't fight the recoil much. Thing to be aware of is when you later latch on to a semi auto pistol it can lead to a bit of limp wristing - I brought a newer DW 1911 to the range a few weeks ago and it was driving me nuts until I caught myself simply letting the gun ride and not functioning properly. No one else had a problem with it, I caught myself and latched on tight & all OK.

yzernie
09-10-2010, 12:15 PM
Handcannon owners, what can I expect from my new-to-me .454 casull?
If you shoot the .454 regularly....you can expect a sore hand and wrist!! :D

Falstaff
09-10-2010, 4:08 PM
I'm sure most people here know the difference in felt recoil between a .38 spl, and a .357, is the felt recoil when jumping to the .454 from the 45 LC a similar relative difference or is it double the recoil? I have a gp100 and a Blackhawk, both in .357, the blackhawk is a little unpleasant with hot .357's, especially if my hand is not placed just right, of course the blackhawk just has the hard plastic grips, my GP 100 has some hogue soft rubber grips, I'm just chattering about this thing because I can't wait to try it, I shot a Redhawk 44 mag 10 years ago, and it didnt seem much worse than the .357, but i don't remember what ammunition was being used.

I will definitely be getting .454 dies to reload this thing..

Thanks for the tips/anecdotes...

getafterit
09-10-2010, 7:25 PM
Ummm, big hole's...damn big hole's. Recoil aint that bad IMHO.
Your mileage may vary though.

S.A.
09-10-2010, 8:26 PM
I think one thing to seriously consider is, shooting heavy loads can cause damage to your wrist/hand (carpal tunnel syndrome). IMHO.

captn-tin
09-11-2010, 8:28 AM
454 to 357? like grenade to firecracker!

GW
09-11-2010, 10:20 AM
You haven't shot one before you bought this?
Well, you're either going to love it or there will soon be a slightly used 454 at the gun shop
Good luck
The recoil is ...impressive

TKM
09-11-2010, 10:42 AM
I've got the 500, 460 and 454.

It's not unusual for the front sight to ding the bottom of the target pulley box at Project 2000.

My right arm usually buzzes for about three hours after leaving the range. Trying to hold a glass of anything steady is an exercise in futility.

Enjoy.

And reload.

coq
09-11-2010, 10:59 AM
I've got a SRH Alaskan .454 and it's really fun! I usually target shoot with .45 Colts then finish off with a cylinder of Casulls. This is totally manageable for both my wallet and my connective tissue. You will not flinch with your .357 mag ever again.

Falstaff
09-11-2010, 2:56 PM
I've got a SRH Alaskan .454 and it's really fun! I usually target shoot with .45 Colts then finish off with a cylinder of Casulls. This is totally manageable for both my wallet and my connective tissue. You will not flinch with your .357 mag ever again.

So, how much difference is there between the .45LC and .454?

coq
09-12-2010, 9:34 AM
So, how much difference is there between the .45LC and .454?

Major. In the Alaskan, the .45 feels like .38sp out of a snubbie. The first time with the .454, you'll probably look to make sure your hand is still there. It's awesome.

SnWnMe
09-12-2010, 2:10 PM
All these big boomers are kittens if you approach them properly.
Hold the gun firmly without using a whiteknuckle death grip. Don't fight the recoil but rather let the gun rise. It's okay, these calibers weren't meant to be double tapped.

Don't expect to go through a box of 50 in one sitting unless you want to flinch for the rest of the day. I go through 1 cylinderful, then take a break (cool down with 44 mags or sumthin') and return later.

nn3453
09-12-2010, 2:51 PM
Things to expect: Recoil (don't anticipate it, hold it securely, yet not like you are in a death struggle with it and let it do its thing. The sights will be back on target eventually), expensive to shoot and FUN.

JTROKS
09-12-2010, 3:24 PM
Try some 300 grain JHPs at about 1650 fps using H110 or 296, and you will definitely feel a snap, recoil and blast. If you want the hammer to come closer try loading some fast stepping 420 grain hard cast bullets. Shooting the 454 Casull doesn't have to be painful and that can be alleviated by wearing some padded shooting gloves. It is not that scary shooting a 454 Casull, but I wouldn't shoot 100 rounds of it in one day. I don't know who's in the video, but if she can do it I'm thinking most males with some pride can do it too.
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HappyG
09-12-2010, 3:27 PM
Expensive ammo and sore wrists perhaps? Be safe...

nicki
09-12-2010, 4:12 PM
My Raging Bull is heavy, has a ported barrel and rubberized grips.

My S&W has stock wood grips, stock barrel.

Between the two of them, I find the Raging Bull is easier to shoot.

This is due to the fact that the Grips on my S&W are too big for my hands and when I get around to it, I will replace them with some form of a smaller rubber type grip which will significantly help.

Make sure that whatever 454 you get, that the gun fits your hand because it does pack a punch.

The 454 is a hand cannon, but it is bearable. Due to indoor range restrictions in my area, I have only put 100 rounds through my gun over the years.

Where I could easily shoot 200 plus rounds of 45acp, the 454 is one gun that I'm generally done after 20 to 25 rounds.

I have shot other people's 500 S&W's and all I have to say is that I don't think I'll be buying one.

Nicki

Aitch
09-25-2010, 4:18 PM
My buddy and I shot the 2 inch 454 Alaskan at the Raahauge Gun Show a few months back. $3 for 2 rounds.

It was classic. I went first, held on tight, but let it ride up, and knocked two clays down, and came back from the line with a big ****-eating grin about 2 miles wide on my face.

He's considerably bigger then me, and I guess figured it would be easy for him.
But he limpwristed it and squeezed off his first round... and the thing near tattooed him in the forehead... seriously, I nearly wet myself laughing... it rose up and the hammer came within 2 inches of his forehead, he wheeled back AND nearly dropped the thing.
It was awesome!
Obviously, embarrassment meant he handled the 2nd round better.

Needless to say, I haven't let him forget it.
I'm so forwarding that video of the girl above over to him!!! :p

You're so gonna love shooting this round!

jaybirdjtski
10-17-2010, 3:08 PM
I love shooting my 454 SRH. I replaced the standard grips with Hogue Tamer with the sorbethane insert. I learned long ago that good grips will make a hand cannon shoot alot easier.
I would recommend that you do not shoot 45 LC but rather load the Casull with practice loads using Trail Boss or Bullseye. Using the 45 LC will allow crud to build up in the cylinder and when you do shoot full power loads you could have extraction issues.
I suggest buying a separate die for crimping, specifically the Redding Profile Crimp Series A. You also can buy a spacer to get exactly 1/16" between the shell holder and your die. With cases the same length, you'll have consistent crimps. When you shoot full power loads, especially with heavier bullets, 335 and up, the recoil can cause the bullet to jump crimp effectively freezing the cylinder. That would be the last thing you want to have happen if your are hunting dangerous game, the two or four legged variety.
If you scope it, you will need to use Lok Tite and get the rings unbelievably tight! Other than that, it is a whole lot of fun. I love hitting sand-filled milk cartons at the 200 yard line! My self imposed limit on large game is about 150 yards. I do believe those heavy hardcast lead bullets would kill at 200+ yards easily with well placed shots. It is the "well-placed" that I have to work on. Over about 150 you need a laser range finder or your shot could be well off it's mark.