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rbetts
09-09-2010, 10:05 AM
Now Available-Darin Prince's latest addition to the fine line of California Compliance Products at Assault Planet- THE BULLET BUTTON CONVERTIBLE.

http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/yhst-42922732626033_2121_319942

This 4th generation model has all the features of the previous models. You can:


Lock the magazine in a fixed position for top loading.
Drop the magazine with a tool inserted into the Bullet Button Convertible.
Drop the magazine by pushing on the Bullet Button Convertible itself.

All you need is to turn the set screw the approprate amount of turns for each setting.

Each setting has its advantages and legalities. (with Setting 3 being for use outside of California).

Watch the video here! (http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/2836/p9060001.mp4)

These are available exclusively at Golden State Tactical

jackliu239
09-09-2010, 10:11 AM
nvm

dieselpower
09-09-2010, 10:12 AM
nice...you need a new pic. the pic shows the original BB :)

rbetts
09-09-2010, 10:13 AM
$45.00 you guys are sure milking us dry

Nice try Jackliu, look again :fud:

rbetts
09-09-2010, 10:14 AM
nice...you need a new pic. the pic shows the original BB :)

No copycats with the old picture. Done on purpose :D

Watch the video for a closer look.

jackliu239
09-09-2010, 10:56 AM
Ops sorry, I mistaken that with Prince 50 Rock River LAR-8 Bullet Button

dfletcher
09-09-2010, 11:49 AM
I just watched the video - position one locked & top load only, position two BB release only and position three means we're in NV ...... :)

The "transitions" of configuration are from CA legal to CA legal to not CA legal so we can go from top load to BB without "passing through" the out of state configuration.

Are there any concerns the screw that controls configuration can turn out a bit and someone set for BB use can find themselves in the out of state configuration? Five turns is a fair amount of distance I agree, would a touch (just enough to gum things up a bit) of blue loctite be advisable? I think blue would allow for turning but prevent any free backing out possibility.

BTW - good price & shipping.

tiger222
09-09-2010, 11:57 AM
Nice, make one for the HK 9x series guns please!!!!

rbetts
09-09-2010, 3:39 PM
I just watched the video - position one locked & top load only, position two BB release only and position three means we're in NV ...... :)

The "transitions" of configuration are from CA legal to CA legal to not CA legal so we can go from top load to BB without "passing through" the out of state configuration.

Are there any concerns the screw that controls configuration can turn out a bit and someone set for BB use can find themselves in the out of state configuration? Five turns is a fair amount of distance I agree, would a touch (just enough to gum things up a bit) of blue loctite be advisable? I think blue would allow for turning but prevent any free backing out possibility.

BTW - good price & shipping.

No loctite needed. The set screw settings will only allow for the 3 settings. You will be able to tell by pushing the button what setting you have. No inadvertant settings here. Only operator adjusted settings:D

Prince50
09-09-2010, 5:11 PM
I have made the setscrew tight enough that it will not back out during firing.

Blue locktite would be fine if it makes you feel better, but let it dry on the setscrew before instaling it in the Bullet Button Convertible. TM.

This unit has been a long time in development, and it is GREAT! Only 4-5 turns between settings. Allen Wrench included of course.

Our top notch customer service included free of charge.


I thought about caling it the Bullet Button "Trombo". LOL

3 settings no waiting.

Thanks.

Darin

Wherryj
09-09-2010, 5:16 PM
I just watched the video - position one locked & top load only, position two BB release only and position three means we're in NV ...... :)

The "transitions" of configuration are from CA legal to CA legal to not CA legal so we can go from top load to BB without "passing through" the out of state configuration.

Are there any concerns the screw that controls configuration can turn out a bit and someone set for BB use can find themselves in the out of state configuration? Five turns is a fair amount of distance I agree, would a touch (just enough to gum things up a bit) of blue loctite be advisable? I think blue would allow for turning but prevent any free backing out possibility.

BTW - good price & shipping.

Although if you have to loctite it, you might as well have a standard BB? That would be just about as easy to "De-Kalifornicate"-remove loctite BB, insert standard mag release...wash, rinse, repeat after returning from the free-states.

Prince50
09-09-2010, 5:30 PM
If you let locktite dry before installing, it increases friction, but does not lock. It is not required anyway.

Works perfectly without it.

DarinAlthough if you have to loctite it, you might as well have a standard BB? That would be just about as easy to "De-Kalifornicate"-remove loctite BB, insert standard mag release...wash, rinse, repeat after returning from the free-states.

swrdply400mrelay
09-09-2010, 6:11 PM
So is this essentially a radlock?

subrosa
09-09-2010, 6:15 PM
Just picked up a pair for my babies :D

I am really happy to see all 3 conditions met by one device.

This will also really solve any issues should I ever take the rifles out of state and/or laws change.

DB2
09-09-2010, 6:21 PM
It looks neat. But please tell me this isn't going to end the original BB.

I prefer just to swap buttons. I also like to mod them into the version 2 it doesn't look as if I can do that with the 4.

NSR500
09-09-2010, 6:36 PM
Cool

Double_D
09-09-2010, 6:45 PM
very cool. I'd get one if i had an AR.

Prince50
09-09-2010, 6:54 PM
Thanks for the KUDOS.

This will not ever end the Bullet Button! We are happy to make it, the Prince50, and the new Bullet Button Convertible.


This is not like anything on the market. It is a cross between my Bullet Button and my Prince50 maglock. It allows the best of both, Prince50 locked, Bullet Button, and Prince50 unlocked. (which is standard button use.).

3 for 1!

Darin

Hump0311
09-09-2010, 7:17 PM
Has anyone contacted the company about a calguns group buy? Because if not i'm sending an email

DB2
09-09-2010, 7:37 PM
^^^^

Really? That price is already less than the $25 that the original goes for. Plus it has free shipping.

I'm glad to hear that the original is still going to be around!!!

MFortie
09-09-2010, 7:56 PM
The statement on the website declaring "This button can not be used with magazines greater than 10 rounds in capacity. To do so in the state of California on an unregistered assault weapon, would be a felony" has to do only with the law, not functionality?

Out of California, one could use a 20 or 30 round mag with the BB Conv, corrrect?

AlliedArmory
09-09-2010, 7:58 PM
Shouldn't this be in the commercial sales forum?

6172crew
09-09-2010, 8:02 PM
The statement on the website declaring "This button can not be used with magazines greater than 10 rounds in capacity. To do so in the state of California on an unregistered assault weapon, would be a felony" has to do only with the law, not functionality?

Out of California, one could use a 20 or 30 round mag with the BB Conv, corrrect?

Yes,

BTW this kit shows just how dumb are laws here really are.:chris:

6172crew
09-09-2010, 8:05 PM
Shouldn't this be in the commercial sales forum?

I see your point but I'd like to know that anyone who plans on buying a AR15 platform knows this is available.

technically you are correct though. If the owner or another mod thinks it should be moved then Im game but this thread doesnt have a price so it would have to be modified or edited to add that info.

rbetts
09-09-2010, 9:14 PM
Shouldn't this be in the commercial sales forum?

It's there already. This thread was to announce and for the technical discussion.

BAGunner
09-09-2010, 9:32 PM
Bought one :) Thanks for the free ship code "CONV"

tenpercentfirearms
09-09-2010, 9:37 PM
No this is a legit thread. Feel free to ask questions all you want. If it was solely in the commercial threads, then you couldn't ask questions.

zoglog
09-09-2010, 10:15 PM
dammit... just bought a raddlock already days ago

nikonuser
09-10-2010, 8:26 AM
Smart design. I just placed an order.

problemchild
09-10-2010, 8:43 AM
Better test that puppy on a 308 as I had my BB vibrate loose and fall out of the gun. The store that installed it said they had "never seen that before". I asked if they used loctite and they said "no". I have since used loctite and it is staying put.

These kind of quick changes make me very nervous as I do not trust the police one bit to not jack with screw and hit you with a felony.

Wherryj
09-10-2010, 9:08 AM
If you let locktite dry before installing, it increases friction, but does not lock. It is not required anyway.

Works perfectly without it.

Darin

My point was, if you are going to make it that hard to remove, you might as well just switch back and forth between the BB and a stanard mag release.

Your idea seems to be the better way to do it. Is there any chance that the DoJ will state that it COULD be turned into a standard release with the tool, thus it IS a standard release?

Curtis
09-10-2010, 9:34 AM
Great job!

SIK02SS
09-10-2010, 9:52 AM
Sweet! Just ordered!!

wash
09-10-2010, 10:02 AM
I watched the video last night and I'm impressed.

It looks like it does everything a Radlock does and more, with a much lower price.

I'm ordering two.

metalliman545
09-10-2010, 10:37 AM
orderddd cant wait to buy a new lower just to instal it ;D

dfletcher
09-10-2010, 11:55 AM
Although if you have to loctite it, you might as well have a standard BB? That would be just about as easy to "De-Kalifornicate"-remove loctite BB, insert standard mag release...wash, rinse, repeat after returning from the free-states.

Actually I was thinking "just a dab" of blue to increase frction, not lock it per se. If it seems the fit is tight enough without so probably not worth doing. I ordered two, will see how it works.

dfletcher
09-10-2010, 12:01 PM
Is there any reason none of the tops of the "mag release" part of the BB has the usual surface cuts found on a standard AR mag release? I know it makes no functional difference, but I think the smooth top isn't as neat looking as the standard AR finish.

I guess that's really being nit picky, right?

jltapia
09-10-2010, 12:12 PM
Just ordered one for my new project. I hope i like it.

rbetts
09-10-2010, 7:40 PM
The Finger Ridges would be a cool feature. Maybe we can convince Darin for v.2 of the the BB Convertible!

rbetts
09-10-2010, 7:42 PM
FYI all Shipments are going out First Class Mail in a 4 x 6 Manilla Envelope. Should reach folks Monday or Tuesday.

Thanks for all of your inquiries and feedback. It's much appreciated!

subrosa
09-13-2010, 11:18 AM
They shipped! see below. I am guessing I just got a weird red herring email.

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Sigh, ordered two the day this was posted, just got updated it is a 6-8week backlog.

Do you know when you might get more in stock?

BAGunner
09-13-2010, 11:55 AM
Mine is shipped. :party:

stphnman20
09-13-2010, 12:14 PM
Sweet setup man!! Good job!

wash
09-13-2010, 2:35 PM
Sigh, ordered two the day this was posted, just got updated it is a 6-8week backlog.

Do you know when you might get more in stock?
I placed my order Friday night and I just got the confirmation email that my two went out in the mail.

Did you order something else that you are waiting on?

subrosa
09-13-2010, 2:39 PM
I placed my order Friday night and I just got the confirmation email that my two went out in the mail.

Did you order something else that you are waiting on?

Haha, seconds after I posted this my order when from 6-8 weeks to shipped :D

Nevermind! haha, maybe they read this...

1911su16b870
09-13-2010, 4:49 PM
Nice.

What about a 5th gen with a ball-spring detent that impinges on a screw cam that after you screw the setup down, you simply click from locked mag, to BB config and finally free state config using a tool?

rbetts
09-13-2010, 7:58 PM
Haha, seconds after I posted this my order when from 6-8 weeks to shipped :D

Nevermind! haha, maybe they read this...

I have big fingers, I clicked the wrong response in my store program.
Sorry,

Shipped! This AM

MisterPo
09-15-2010, 8:03 PM
hey rob,

just to clarify, does this come with the allen wrench tool?

Thanks!

wash
09-16-2010, 10:30 AM
I got mine yesterday.

It does include the allen wrench.

I like it. It does things that nothing else does with it's fixed mag position.

On the other hand, in the free state/rimfire configuration it needs more of a push than a standard mag lock.

I showed it to a couple friends and they seemed to prefer the radlock because it can use an easier to find screwdriver to switch modes. I don't think that's an issue because switching modes is not something you should need to do very often and making it easy seems like it would lend itself to unintentional AW configurations.

In all, it does have a value beyond the origional Bullet Button but the origional is cheaper and keeps it very simple, one mode.

I think the CAL15BS is still my favorite but time will tell.

socal425
09-18-2010, 3:28 PM
Just got mine today. Can't wait to install and test. :D

glockwise2000
09-19-2010, 8:27 AM
If I didn't have the Raddlock on my ARs then I would have grabbed this, but so far I am satisfied with raddlock. Probably on my next AR project.

Very nice product though.

rbetts
09-20-2010, 4:02 PM
Kit comes with Allen Wrench.

Just a note in that the red wonder tool (not included) really makes the install go much faster and smoother.

MFortie
09-23-2010, 9:22 PM
Just received mine and started to install it. Are the threads in the 'cage' supposed to br threaded all the way through?

My set screw seems to bottom out leaving half the screw sticking out of the cage. I'm afraid I'll snap the allen wrench if I try to tighten any further...

What's the 'red wonder tool'?

Never mind, I found it on the website...

Thanks,

Mark

rbetts
09-24-2010, 8:02 AM
You may have some anodizing on the threads. Best to take it off the gun and thread the BB set screw through from the back side of the cage (small hole side)thereby removing any anodization residue from the threads. Then re-install properly. Should solve your problem.

Prince50
09-24-2010, 8:13 AM
Mark,

If clearing the threads as Rob suggested, does not cure the problem, PM me your address, and I'll get a new cage out today, via USPS.

Thanks,

Darin

MFortie
09-24-2010, 9:08 AM
Mark,

If clearing the threads as Rob suggested, does not cure the problem, PM me your address, and I'll get a new cage out today, via USPS.

Thanks,

Darin

Thanks Darin. I actually did try to thread it in from the backside with no luck. Doesn't look like it was tapped all the way through.

I'll send you my addy via PM...

Mark

MFortie
09-27-2010, 7:12 PM
Mark,

If clearing the threads as Rob suggested, does not cure the problem, PM me your address, and I'll get a new cage out today, via USPS.

Thanks,

Darin

Darin,

Got the replacement cage today (plus the 'extra'); thanks much! That's what I call outstanding customer service.

Thanks again,

Mark

lanwarrior
09-28-2010, 1:48 PM
Just curious: what is the mechanism that prevent the BBC to NOT work with mag larger than 10 rounds? I.e. If I am traveling to NV or any state with no 10 rounds restrictions

rbetts
12-12-2010, 6:57 PM
That Mechanism would be your hand and your brain. Do not place a magazine larger than a 10 round in your gun and you are good to go. :43: When in another state, use your allen wrench to convert the BBC to work as a mag release and then place whatever size magazine is legal in the state you are in. Simple as that!

acaligunner
12-12-2010, 7:57 PM
Looks good

acaligunner

Outta Control
12-21-2010, 10:25 AM
Bump for these guys. Fast shipment (ordered late 12/21, received this morning). Kudos to GST.

Outta Control
12-21-2010, 10:28 AM
That Mechanism would be your hand and your brain. Do not place a magazine larger than a 10 round in your gun and you are good to go. :43: When in another state, use your allen wrench to convert the BBC to work as a mag release and then place whatever size magazine is legal in the state you are in. Simple as that!

I would recommend as far is to fully lock the mag release during transport so there are no mistakes or issues then twist away to the appropriate setting based on state when you get to your fav shooting range. Just remember to lock it up again before transport.