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ragenmoan
09-08-2010, 4:31 PM
Got my choice narrowed down to Beretta 87 target, SW model 41, maybe Ruger MkII, Colt Woodsman. Really like the price, look and feel of the Beretta. Just want to know what my Calguns Hommies think....

GunDog
09-08-2010, 4:34 PM
Take the Model 41 Smith with a 5 1/2" bbl and never look back.

DVSmith
09-08-2010, 4:34 PM
I have only used my S&W 41, but I like it a lot.

Droc101
09-08-2010, 4:53 PM
why not the ruger mark 3? they are a great little accurate shooter

http://eastcoastgunsales.com/admin/_ImageUploads/Product%20Images/526.jpg

Black_Talon
09-08-2010, 5:15 PM
M41 Smith, FTW.

IIIVIII
09-08-2010, 5:19 PM
Ruger Mk3 target

extremely accurate and good trigger.

BigRich
09-08-2010, 5:26 PM
The S&W 41 gets my vote too. The Ruger pistols are not refined enough out of the box for serious bullseye shooting. Their trigger pulls are generally too heavy for real accurate shooting. If you had Clark do a trigger job to it and replace the sights you would make a major improvement. Change the barrel and now you are in the same league but you will have spent more than a new Model 41. A Colt Woodsman would be nice but if you broke it parts are not always easy to find. If you are stuck on a Beretta try and find a Model 89 Standard target pistol. It is a MUCH better choice for serious target work. As has been said, get the 41 and don't look back.

RTE
09-08-2010, 5:43 PM
What are the barrel limitations?

My vote
S&W or Ruger

Sounds like fun
How about a 22/45 Ruger great eight :D
Or a 6 7/8 slab side.
http://www.glamisdunes.com/invision/gallery_imgs/1244660614/gallery_4554_28_9660.jpg

wellfedirishman
09-08-2010, 6:14 PM
What's your budget?

If under $500, get a nice used Ruger Mk II or MK III bull barrel (about $400) and put a Volquartsen trigger and sear in it, and Volquartsen extractor (about $60 total). Then you are set.

If under $1000, get the S&W 41. It is hard to find them for less than $800 used.

Both are excellent guns. The 41 has the luxury edge, but the tuned up Ruger is a fine shooter too.

I own both and shoot both. I started with the Ruger (since it was all I could afford at the time). Now I have both, and I still shoot them each equally.

BenjaminCA
09-08-2010, 6:56 PM
What about the browning Buckmark? I know tactical solutions have lots of aftermarket parts for them, anyone shoot a Buckmark for bullseye shooting?

ragenmoan
09-08-2010, 8:44 PM
Looks like the SW41 is getting a lot of votes. The Beretta looked and felt really good. Only thing I did not like was the length of the trigger pull. Target Masters have the SW41 and Rugers, maybe even the Buckmark. Wonder if they'll let me rent one of them, unaccompanied, even if I bring my own handgun?

russ69
09-08-2010, 9:43 PM
No on the Beretta. Yes on the Model 41 with 5-1/2 inch barrel. Ruger 22/45 with 5-1/2 inch bull barrel if you are on a budget.

Thanx, Russ

0x80884
09-08-2010, 11:09 PM
I'm a very happy Ruger Mark III owner. 5 1/2" bull barrel Target. Highly recommend it, and it'll spit any 22LR you feed it (including garbage golden bullet that feels like it was left under an oceanic rock)

GŁnter
09-08-2010, 11:17 PM
Ruger Mk II/III or 22/45 in 5.5 inch bull barrel.

ironpete
09-08-2010, 11:19 PM
I did a mini-review in an old post http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?p=2940218#post2940218
(http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?p=2940218#post2940218)
I still like my Beretta but could easily justify taking a different route. After the cost of the trigger job (absolutely necessary) and expensive mags I could have pretty much bought anything. I'll eventually end up with a 41 also.

I don't understand why the Rugers are so popular. I won one at a shoot and still don't think it was worth it...it is currently awaiting a pink dura-coating for my wife or daughter.

Get what you like:
"If you like the way your gun is customized, you will probably shoot it better. That's why we all want something a little different, something personal. If a gun is just right, you will want to shoot and handle it more often. This will lead to better shooting, which will probably make you want to shoot it even more. See a pattern developing here?"
-Rob Leatham

bjl333
09-08-2010, 11:35 PM
S & W Model 41.
High Standard Victor.
Beretta Model 87.
Ruger Mk III Target.
Colt Ace.

My vote: S & W Model 41 ... My dad has these 5 target pistols. The 41 feels the best to me and when benched the best groups.

jdg30
09-09-2010, 6:42 AM
I have a Ruger MK III 22/45 with 4" barrel and it's a very accurate shooter. I replaced the trigger/hammer/hammer bushing/sear with Volquartsen and MK II parts and it's a huge difference. The modifications are easy to do yourself and aren't very expensive. I also got rid of the mag disconnect safety and internal lock. The gun functions flawlessly with the exception of any problems that are ammo related. (i.e. Rem Gold bullet duds)

Total price for the gun and modifications was around $400 for the blued gun.

bombadillo
09-09-2010, 6:47 AM
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My MKIII with and without Volquartsen grips. They Do add a lot of grip, so great for big hands but most people don't like them for just plinking. The factory rosewood grips come with a nice thumb rest on them and I like both just fine. Add a red dot and perfect for bullseye shooting.

bombadillo
09-09-2010, 6:48 AM
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l122/bombadillo08/guns/img1271806947083.jpg

Sorry, ended up with 2 different pics.

dfletcher
09-09-2010, 10:02 AM
I have an older High Standard Supermatic something or other with a few different barrels, excellent sights and an adjustable trigger They're of course harder to find in CA but not too difficult. As mentioned the Victor is an excellent version. I see prices all over the place, from $400.00 to near $1K for these pistols. I think they beat the heck out of any Ruger or Buckmark. I haven't used a Smith 41 so can't comment.

As an aside, you might want to check the Olympic pistol listing to see if the High Standards are exempt from the "CA safe" roster. If they are exempt you can bring into the state via FFL with no problems.

Steyrlp10
09-09-2010, 10:16 AM
To the OP:

Just curious... when you asked for a Bullseye .22, I take it that you meant Conventional Bullseye since most people are showing their "drilled and tapped" models?

I used to have a S&W Model 41 and a Ruger Mark II. I found both to be adequate. I heard good feedback from owners of the Colt Woodsman, but never had the chance to shoot one.

I shoot International in addition to Conventional, so I have a FAS 602, Hammerli 215, and Hammerli SP-20.

ragenmoan
09-09-2010, 10:17 AM
Deciding between these three: 1) Victor Hi Standard with 5.5" barrel, 2) Colt Automatic Targetsman with 6" barrel, 3) SW 41. looks like both the SW 41 and Victor Hi Standard are both the the DoJ Olympic Pistol Exemption list. The SW 41 I saw had holes drilled for scope mount (+). I'm hoping the Victor Hi Standard is scope mount ready. Don't feel like drilling holes into the Colt Targetsman since there may some collector value with this hand gun.

huckberry668
09-09-2010, 12:06 PM
I have both Beretta 87T and M-41. 87-T has small grip so if you have big hands it may not fit you too well. My 7-year old loves shooting the 87-T.

The M-41 is expensive but you don't need another bullseye 22. Personally I don't like the Ruger Mk series but everyone I know who shot it love it.

I'd like to suggest a Marvel .22 conversion Unit 1 if you have a 1911. I have one and it really does shoot under 1" at 50-yards with match ammo. It's cheaper than both and you don't have to change your grip.

a little off the topic but the most reliable 22 auto pistol I've shot is the Browning Buckmark.

bjl333
09-09-2010, 10:47 PM
I have both Beretta 87T and M-41. 87-T has small grip so if you have big hands it may not fit you too well. My 7-year old loves shooting the 87-T.

The M-41 is expensive but you don't need another bullseye 22. Personally I don't like the Ruger Mk series but everyone I know who shot it love it.

I'd like to suggest a Marvel .22 conversion Unit 1 if you have a 1911. I have one and it really does shoot under 1" at 50-yards with match ammo. It's cheaper than both and you don't have to change your grip.

a little off the topic but the most reliable 22 auto pistol I've shot is the Browning Buckmark.

Or try the Beretta 89, it has bigger grips. Extremely hard to find in Cali ...

PCC
09-09-2010, 11:54 PM
The High Standard Victor has a sight rail on top of the barrel/slide. The rail is screwed down to the barrel so it's removable. I don't know of a Weaver-style rail that can be bought to replace it but I know that Volquartsen sells a barrel for the High Standard button release guns and it doesn't come with iron sights so it's scope-only. If you want to venture up to the North-Peninsula then I can meet you at a gun range and I'll let you shoot my Victor with the stock barrel as well as with my 6" VQ barrel and Leupold 2X EER.

As far as I know, all High Standards cannot be shot with anything more than standard velocity ammo because of fear of frame failure. These are target pistols meant for shooting at paper targets and shooting hyper velocity ammo will damage them.

zoglog
09-10-2010, 12:46 AM
My mark 3 Hunter SS is currently in dros. picking it up next week. hope I made a good choice. (First .22)

Keep&Bear
09-10-2010, 2:37 PM
I purchased a Ruger 22/45 two years ago. Price is great. Shooting accuracy is remarkable. I swear by it.

Pistol functionality is very smooth. I've run all types of .22 ammo through it, from super cheap remingtons up to winchester Hyper Velocity - They all do great. I settled on the Federal Bulks from Wally World. Priced right and no failures.

Father-in-law has Browning Buckmark. It's second only to the 1911's and Sig P220. The Buckmark likes Federals, CCIs and Winchester .22's - the less expensive rounds just won't cut it.

Hope tis helps you.

SFgiants105
09-10-2010, 4:32 PM
I can't believe no one even tried to mention a Browning buckmark. I have shot that and the ruger and got a few less jams out of the browning, but they're all about the same IMO.

mif_slim
09-10-2010, 5:03 PM
I've own a buckmark and a mki, mkiii. the buckmark shot way better. maybe it had a aftermarket trigger I dunno but it was more crisp then te mkiii and it shot tighter groups at 50 yards then the mk.

if i had it my way I would ask for my buckmark back. :( I miss it dearly.

bjl333
09-10-2010, 9:38 PM
My mark 3 Hunter SS is currently in dros. picking it up next week. hope I made a good choice. (First .22)

You did !!!:thumbsup:

chuckdc
09-11-2010, 5:21 PM
Hi-Standard 10-x if you are into bullseye. They are making them in TX, and one of the original guys from the old HS is overseeing their high end guns. Friend of mine in Houston got one to match his original Citation.

huckberry668
09-11-2010, 5:51 PM
I can't believe no one even tried to mention a Browning buckmark. I have shot that and the ruger and got a few less jams out of the browning, but they're all about the same IMO.

Check out my response 5 replies before yours.

jumpthestack
09-11-2010, 5:57 PM
Looks like the SW41 is getting a lot of votes. The Beretta looked and felt really good. Only thing I did not like was the length of the trigger pull. Target Masters have the SW41 and Rugers, maybe even the Buckmark. Wonder if they'll let me rent one of them, unaccompanied, even if I bring my own handgun?

I shot a S&W 41 and Ruger Mk III target model side by side and I shot the 41 way better.

Yes Target Masters will let you rent both of them by yourself if you bring your own gun.

SFgiants105
09-15-2010, 12:13 AM
Check out my response 5 replies before yours.

oops:D