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jackliu239
09-07-2010, 6:52 PM
For MSRP around $400, reliability is number 1 consideration, accuracy and look is secondary.

coq
09-07-2010, 7:01 PM
For MSRP around $400, reliability is number 1 consideration, accuracy and look is secondary.

Not too far off from a Glock 19. How about a Ruger SR9 or SR9c?

bandook
09-07-2010, 7:02 PM
Get one that fits your hand. No point in the gun reliably firing if you can't hit the target because the gun squirms in your hand.

cindynles
09-07-2010, 7:02 PM
Ruger P95, S&W Sigma, or Sig Pro are all good 9mm handguns around that price range.

hnoppenberger
09-07-2010, 7:06 PM
sig p6. I trust me life to it.

orangeusa
09-07-2010, 7:12 PM
Yup Ruger P95, or if you can find a used one - P89. (My P89 is in jail for 2 more days (I have a P90 also)).

Tanks, I tells ye. They are built like tanks!


And seriously, do NOT be afraid of buying a used pistola. Most are used very little, and it's pretty easy to tell if it's been abused.

nazgulnarsil
09-07-2010, 7:14 PM
if reliability is more important than anything I'd say get a used glock.

AIMSMALL
09-07-2010, 7:14 PM
Spend whatever you have to to get the one you really want! I would suggest a glock or a springfield XD if you buy used you should have no trouble meeting your price point you mentioned too. Can you go shoot a few first? Rent? Borrow?

luckystrike
09-07-2010, 7:17 PM
Yup Ruger P95, or if you can find a used one - P89. (My P89 is in jail for 2 more days (I have a P90 also)).

Tanks, I tells ye. They are built like tanks!


And seriously, do NOT be afraid of buying a used pistola. Most are used very little, and it's pretty easy to tell if it's been abused.


eh I wouldnt buy used again. I once bought a used 1911 that jammed everyshot:/ kind of a bummer but there is the small chance of getting ripped.

reliability is the most important part to you, then would the 9mm be your defense gun? if so your life is indeed worth more than $400

Cowboy T
09-07-2010, 7:19 PM
Ruger SR9 is a great fit for my hand, and it's reliable as heck. I got mine for $349, with 2 mags, brand new. Hard to beat that.

You'll hear some folks suggesting Glocks. They've got a good reason to do that; Glocks are reliable and proven, no doubt about it. I look at an SR9 as a Glock with slight improvements. One of those is that SR9's have traditional rifling. That means cheap reloads with cast lead bullets are emphatically NOT a problem. Ask me how I know that. ;-) The cops don't really shoot reloads (well, not officially, heh heh), but we civilians do, so this matters for us.

The other nice thing about the SR9 is that you do not have to pull the trigger to field-strip it. Yes, you should be following proper firearm safety ANYWAY, but it's a nice little extra safety factor.

You get Glock-like reliability out of the SR9. They've been known to take 10,000 rounds through them without a single cleaning and still function like new.

And finally, they can be had for about $100 less money, on average. Since I handload, for me, that extra $100 means over 3,000 rounds of 9mm that I can make.

orangeusa
09-07-2010, 7:22 PM
I bought 9 used guns last year. All shoot real fine, but I do inspect the heck out of them, and buy guns that I know how to tear down... And theres the taxes and the FFL vs PPT fees.. Well, I could go on and on.

Wifey's not too happy with so many purchases tho..

Dang it, I meant to bring up the golden standard - as mentioned above - go to a range (with a buddy - they don't rent to 'solitary humans' lol), and try all their rental guns. You'll know right away what you like.


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zfields
09-07-2010, 7:27 PM
used XD 9mm shouldnt be hard to find. Glock reliability, but with more 1911 grip.

kemper
09-07-2010, 7:29 PM
For MSRP around $400, reliability is number 1 consideration, accuracy and look is secondary.

glock 17, 19 or 26.....take your pick

orangeusa
09-07-2010, 7:29 PM
Is it me, or have Glocks gone up in price a lot?

kemper
09-07-2010, 7:30 PM
Is it me, or have Glocks gone up in price a lot?

maybe....i just got a G19 for 499 though, new

sequoia_nomad
09-07-2010, 7:32 PM
SR9 or a used Glock. P89 is, indeed, a tank. Nothing wrong with used guns from reputable manufacturers, don't let people who had bad experiences scare you away from a good deal. A used 1911 and a used Glock or Ruger are very different creatures.

Oceanbob
09-07-2010, 7:32 PM
if reliability is more important than anything I'd say get a used glock.

^^^^
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Whatisthis?
09-07-2010, 7:35 PM
Ya, I would rent/borrow any guns possible to see what feels best. Feeling is HUGE when it will be used for home defense, which I'm assuming at this point. Most people will say go with a Glock because they are reliable, but some people hate the feel to them. I am definitely very close to purchasing a Ruger P95, SR9, or SR9c myself. I haven't picked one up though, so I have no idea if they real good. If they feel good, I don't see how I could pass it up. I don't know much about the Sig Pro, but I know all Sig guns are fantastic, so it can't be a terrible choice.

bsg
09-07-2010, 7:46 PM
the older w german/german Sig P series handguns have an established track record for reliability. they're ergonomics are also known as being more than adequate.

works for me.

nazgulnarsil
09-07-2010, 7:49 PM
sigs do have operator error issues with people that shoot thumbs high and inadvertently ride the slide release. of course in a civilian defensive scenario the slide locking back on the last shot isn't a huge consideration.

sephy
09-07-2010, 7:50 PM
Find a used CZ. The 75 and P01 would be on my list.

tonelar
09-07-2010, 7:52 PM
P6 or P228 are Great 9mm Handguns that I would trust implicitly (if you're lucky you'll find for around that price)
another 9mm handgun that I feel the same way about is CZ75. a used one oughta set you back $400 or so.

Bizcuits
09-07-2010, 7:52 PM
With $400, I'd say save a little bit longer and get yourself a Glock 19.

jackliu239
09-07-2010, 8:24 PM
Wow, thanks a lot for the quick responses. I already own a Glock 21, 45ACP for HD. I want a 9mm just for the range for now since 45 cost an arm and leg to shoot, and I don't want a second Glock. The reason I want it to be reliable is because I don't want to buy something and have to spend more money later to fix it.

I was leaning towards the S&W Sigma, but I heard sometime it have bad problems, the slide some come off and cut off a piece of your hand even. However I do like SW's life time warranty policy.

From this post, I am also getting interested in Ruger P95 and Ruger SR9. Can anyone tell me what is the difference between those 2 guns.

Also what about Sig Pro, I know this is a good brand, but next to that, know very little.

xibunkrlilkidsx
09-07-2010, 8:28 PM
^ im in the same boat. have a 1911 for shooting but 45 is very expensive. and want a mid range 9mm for cheaper shooting.
It seems that a lot of people were having problems with their sig pro's that they bought when turners had them on sale. Co workerr ahs a sigma and loves it. trigger is on the heavy side but he shots well with it and has nothing but goods things to say about it.

Ruger SR9 is a great fit for my hand, and it's reliable as heck. I got mine for $349, with 2 mags, brand new. Hard to beat that.
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And finally, they can be had for about $100 less money, on average. Since I handload, for me, that extra $100 means over 3,000 rounds of 9mm that I can make.


wow where did you find an SR9 for that low. ive been trying to find one local to buy in a couple weeks and have not been able to find one below 450(and that was on sale at turners) local in brick and motor store.

nazgulnarsil
09-07-2010, 9:17 PM
range gun and reliability is your HIGHEST concern? all guns from major brands are reliable enough as range guns. you want something fun to shoot. get a hammer fired pistol, better triggers. I recommend the sig pro. $389 on TGS.

oghl888
09-07-2010, 9:23 PM
Hmmm, if you already have a G21, and want cheaper practice, maybe a .22 conversion kit would be good. If you are going to shoot a lot of 9mm, then a more expensive/better gun would be a good choice. Your cost difference is negligible in the long run, but the enjoyment factor will last the life of the gun which is virtually forever for most people.

Shoot 1k less 9mm and add $300 more to the cost of the gun

nazgulnarsil
09-07-2010, 9:32 PM
that's another consideration. a ruger mkII or III will give you a lot more shooting enjoyment for the same price (ammo is what? 1/6th the price of 9mm?)

whenever we go to the range the mkII gets more ammo put through it than the rest of the guns combined.

Double_D
09-07-2010, 9:50 PM
save up a little more and get a glock

Vbp6us
09-07-2010, 9:56 PM
maybe....i just got a G19 for 499 though, new

That's a good deal. Where was this? I just bought a G19 gen 3 w/ three mags for $480 shipped to CA from NV + FFL/DROS.

IrishPirate
09-07-2010, 10:01 PM
I'm gonna say it, and the haters are gonna hate.......Hi Point C9 (for $400, get two!!)

cineski
09-08-2010, 6:42 AM
+1 on this.

Hmmm, if you already have a G21, and want cheaper practice, maybe a .22 conversion kit would be good. If you are going to shoot a lot of 9mm, then a more expensive/better gun would be a good choice. Your cost difference is negligible in the long run, but the enjoyment factor will last the life of the gun which is virtually forever for most people.

Shoot 1k less 9mm and add $300 more to the cost of the gun

MilSim
09-08-2010, 7:27 AM
+1 on this.........

Find a used CZ. The 75 and P01 would be on my list.

Greg-Dawg
09-08-2010, 7:30 AM
Another Glock.

robcoe
09-08-2010, 7:44 AM
For MSRP around $400, reliability is number 1 consideration, accuracy and look is secondary.

Ruger p95, easy to find new around $300 and spend the rest on tax, dros, and ammo.

stphnman20
09-08-2010, 7:48 AM
Go with a Glock 17, 19 or a 26..

Fishslayer
09-08-2010, 11:35 AM
Good 9mm for $400?

"Ruger P series." All ya need to know.:cool:

orangeusa
09-08-2010, 11:45 AM
Wow, thanks a lot for the quick responses. I already own a Glock 21, 45ACP for HD. I want a 9mm just for the range for now since 45 cost an arm and leg to shoot, and I don't want a second Glock. The reason I want it to be reliable is because I don't want to buy something and have to spend more money later to fix it.

I was leaning towards the S&W Sigma, but I heard sometime it have bad problems, the slide some come off and cut off a piece of your hand even. However I do like SW's life time warranty policy.

From this post, I am also getting interested in Ruger P95 and Ruger SR9. Can anyone tell me what is the difference between those 2 guns.

Also what about Sig Pro, I know this is a good brand, but next to that, know very little.

(I don't know anything about Sig Pro - just some Ruger info below)

P95 has Sig/Beretta type controls - decocker/slide release and trigger DA/SA. Lower is polymer, upper (slide/barrel) is metal.
http://www.ruger.com/products/p95/models.html

SR9 is a striker style (no external hammer) similiar to Glock. Lower is polymer, upper (slide/barrel) is metal.
http://www.ruger.com/products/sr9/index.html

P95's are getting pretty good reviews. SR9 had a recall early on, and after that, I haven't heard many negatives against them. Ruger customer service is outstanding, and comes with Davidson Lifetime Warantee (at least my P90 did a year ago).

But - try many, buy one. :)

SupraMiggs
09-08-2010, 12:08 PM
If you want a light weight pistol get a Glock. If you want something that is on the heavier side get a Sig P6.

maddoggie13
09-08-2010, 12:11 PM
Ruger P95, S&W Sigma, or Sig Pro are all good 9mm handguns around that price range.

+1 for $400.

Sam
09-08-2010, 12:23 PM
A used Glock is my recommendation.

daemonite
09-08-2010, 12:39 PM
Find a used CZ. The 75 and P01 would be on my list.


Sadly the P01 wont be going that cheap...but CZ 75's though will!

I personally love the CZ-75 and SIG P6 choices people are throwing out there (I have both!)

Vader
09-08-2010, 2:21 PM
Jack,
I would think that without knowing you, recommending a hand gun specifically for you can be a little tricky. It sounds like you have some experience so I would suggest renting a few handguns at your local indoor range and go from there. That way you can choose a new firearm based on what you can effectively shoot, and what fits your hand the best. Good luck with the process.

evidens83
09-08-2010, 2:27 PM
Used Glock 19 or a Sig P6 are the first that came to mind.

norcal.xd
09-08-2010, 3:50 PM
I'm gonna say it, and the haters are gonna hate.......Hi Point C9 (for $400, get two!!)

i got two of them... well 1 9mm and 1 .380 they r both great

sniper4usmc
09-08-2010, 4:09 PM
used SR9

ZX-10R
09-08-2010, 4:21 PM
Ruger P series. Ruger SR9, and S&W Sigma. Depends on fit. everyone kept saying Glock to me...I felt one in my hand and compared to the two other brands it felt the worst. How it shoots is another thing. Sigma is $300 wih rebate right now. Ruger P95 is nice and cheap. I am Partial to guns made in USA as well. I would save a few more dollars and get a S&W 9mm. That is my intended purchase. Foreign purchase for me is the M9.

Spdjunkie
09-08-2010, 4:25 PM
GLOCK 17, 19, 26

ChrisO
09-08-2010, 4:47 PM
Get a glock 17 or 19 so you can practice on a platform similar to what you already have. If you're wanting a range gun I think a .22 conversion kit for you're glock would be a good step so you can stay familiar with you're HD gun and not break the bank and every once and awhile shoot some .45ACP to stay familiar with it.

ledman
09-08-2010, 5:04 PM
Hi Point C9 $150.

OK, flame away everyone!

A G17/19 or an XD is a good choice.

WilliamAnderson
09-08-2010, 10:19 PM
sig sauer p6
jg still has them for sale.
I got mine last almost a year ago and have shot almost 1000 rounds through it. It was my first handgun and it's still the pistol I know will work every time I pull the trigger. Never had a problem with it. Quality is off the charts. Very accurate and pretty "compact" and yea under 400 clams. :D

glock7
09-25-2010, 2:31 PM
P95...can't go wrong. No sigma, unless you decide to use the trigger to do finger exercises.(btw I have both) the sigma stays in the safe unless like I said I need to strengthen my fingers!

The King
09-25-2010, 3:13 PM
eh I wouldnt buy used again. I once bought a used 1911 that jammed everyshot:/ kind of a bummer but there is the small chance of getting ripped.

I disagree. That 1911 was either a lemon when new, or some amateur tried his hand at gunsmithing. And yes, I have purchased both...

I have also purchased autoloaders, and revolvers, used, that I will keep forever.

So do your used purchases face to face, spend the extra nickle at a gun shop which will take a good look at it for you.

fennecfrank
09-25-2010, 8:01 PM
I'll suggest a Glock 17. I got my Glock 17 RTF for $450 in the beginning of this year.

Old4eyes
09-26-2010, 8:36 AM
There is one more thing to consider beyond the $400 you've budgeted for the gun - the cost of the ammo. Getting the gun is one thing, but if you haven't got the budget to shoot it then it becomes a moot point.

6114DAVE
09-26-2010, 8:47 AM
Ruger P series bro!! Ive fed mine all kinds of ammo and not a single failure...I've had it for 2 years now

fred40
09-26-2010, 8:54 AM
I saw a Beretta PX4 on the for sale forum. I have one and never had issues

morfeeis
09-26-2010, 9:46 AM
I'm gonna say it, and the haters are gonna hate.......Hi Point C9 (for $400, get two!!)
The wife has one for range trips and that thing runs like a champ, but limp wrristing it will cause a FTE a little quicker then with my P95.

I'd say go with the P95 and it's a great range toy and just fun as all get out to shoot.......

hawk81
09-26-2010, 1:16 PM
Find a used CZ. The 75 and P01 would be on my list.

This.

den888
09-26-2010, 2:33 PM
A Ruger or a pre-owned S&W would also be a good choice.

map
09-26-2010, 2:50 PM
S&W Sigma

PewPewBob
09-26-2010, 2:51 PM
that's another consideration. a ruger mkII or III will give you a lot more shooting enjoyment for the same price (ammo is what? 1/6th the price of 9mm?)

whenever we go to the range the mkII gets more ammo put through it than the rest of the guns combined.


This....

GWbiker
09-26-2010, 5:09 PM
+1 on Sig P-6/225 in 9mm. For something more compact, reliable, accurate and inexpensive - consider a good condition used STAR Firestar M-43, all steel, 9mm, SAO, 7+1 with rubber grip slabs. Gun show would be a good source. That is - IF the M-43 is on your states approved list.

JTROKS
09-26-2010, 5:30 PM
The P6 is not a bad choice, very good accuracy, very reliable and it fits the bill that you're looking for. The trigger is a bit heavy, only 8 shots in the magazine and depending on the finish will depend on how it looks.

redhemi
09-26-2010, 7:51 PM
Ruger P95 you can get a new one at Turners when their on sale for about $320 plus the usual tax and stuff. Good reliable gun and great customer service if needed.

schenkelini
09-26-2010, 8:04 PM
I have three 9's. I have a SigPro, a CZ75B, and a Beretta 92FS with a DIY trigger job. The Beretta is by far the gun that gets the most ammo in any range trip. It is so accurate and so smooth. My friends all love it too. I want to try a trigger job on the CZ next. It would probably be a draw between the CZ and the Beretta then. A good trigger makes a world of difference!

Noah3683
09-26-2010, 8:26 PM
S&W 990L. Smith&Wesson version of the Walther P99QA. got mine for $369 Brand New. Glock 19, XD9

BHPFan
09-26-2010, 9:18 PM
Yup Ruger P95, or if you can find a used one - P89. (My P89 is in jail for 2 more days (I have a P90 also)).

Tanks, I tells ye. They are built like tanks!
:iagree:



And seriously, do NOT be afraid of buying a used pistola. Most are used very little, and it's pretty easy to tell if it's been abused.

I second that. :cheers2: :yes:

BHPFan
09-26-2010, 9:29 PM
Ruger P series. Ruger SR9, and S&W Sigma. Depends on fit. everyone kept saying Glock to me...I felt one in my hand and compared to the two other brands it felt the worst. How it shoots is another thing. Sigma is $300 wih rebate right now. Ruger P95 is nice and cheap. I am Partial to guns made in USA as well. I would save a few more dollars and get a S&W 9mm. That is my intended purchase. Foreign purchase for me is the M9.

While I sympathize and agree with you on buying guns made in USA, aren't Beretta 92FS/M9, SIG P22X series and Glocks made in the USA nowadays for the American market (Military, LEO and Civies)?

mswanson223
09-26-2010, 11:32 PM
ruger sr9

Fishslayer
09-26-2010, 11:43 PM
And seriously, do NOT be afraid of buying a used pistola. Most are used very little, and it's pretty easy to tell if it's been abused.

Not to mention that if they HAD any issues they've probly been fixed...

Saw a M92FS today for $549. Didn't look like it had been fired much. If I was into 9mm...

chris_m90731
09-26-2010, 11:48 PM
For MSRP around $400, reliability is number 1 consideration, accuracy and look is secondary.

You might want to try a used Beretta. (Police/Military)
Good enough for our troops.

stormy_clothing
09-27-2010, 1:42 PM
theres only two choices - glock and everything else people buy to be different.

jackliu239
09-28-2010, 6:36 PM
Thanks for all the replies, I have decided to get sig pro2022