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harmoniums
09-07-2010, 7:57 AM
He was shooting my Swiss K31 sniper setup (whom I bought from Boo's antithesis, .454, the Romanian guy) and somehow a 308 winchester got mixed in with the 7.5 Swiss.
The round chambered but expanded too much on firing and ruptured sending lots of hot gas back through the bolt and out through the hole that the striker rests in whilst on safe, right into Boos big ole flapping lips.
Gave him some powder burns and bleeding gums.
Boo being a filthy liberal-type was of course wearing glasses that protected his beady eyes.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4090/4968193384_b7e8dc0552.jpg

shown next to a 7.5 swiss

JTROKS
09-07-2010, 8:11 AM
Wow! Although he's a filthy liberal I'm still glad he's not hurt that bad. How's the rifle?

technique
09-07-2010, 8:15 AM
Well, if he wasn't so worried about global warming, he would have been paying attention to ammo types...or something clever like that.

Saw his lip on FB.

Pthfndr
09-07-2010, 8:16 AM
Someone's reloads?

fastom
09-07-2010, 8:19 AM
Thank you!! I haven't laughed that hard in quite some time.

sd_shooter
09-07-2010, 8:22 AM
Someone's reloads?

I don't think it's a reload, it's a completely different caliber:

He was shooting my Swiss K31 sniper setup (whom I bought from Boo's antithesis, .454, the Romanian guy) and somehow a 308 winchester got mixed in with the 7.5 Swiss.

Booshanky
09-07-2010, 8:24 AM
My poor lip.

Yeah, I guess I just don't have any guns that are of such similar caliber that they would chamber without issue. I couldn't accidentally fire 7.62 out of my AR or anything like that, so I just never really spent much time double checking calibers when I'm loading.

Lesson learned!

plankowner
09-07-2010, 8:34 AM
my gf the other day loaded a .40 sw into a .45 magazine and I just noticed it before she put it in the gun, but I did have them separated , I did learn to keep an eye on them better glad no one was really hurt

ar15barrels
09-07-2010, 8:38 AM
Yeah, I guess I just don't have any guns that are of such similar caliber that they would chamber without issue. I couldn't accidentally fire 7.62 out of my AR or anything like that, so I just never really spent much time double checking calibers when I'm loading.

Lesson learned!

I'm guessing you won't make a mistake like this again.
Pain is an excellent teacher.

Mac
09-07-2010, 8:44 AM
How's the rifle? My bet is fine, after all those are built like a Brick SH.
Glad the guy is ok.

jrau13
09-07-2010, 8:46 AM
Wow! Glad you're ok. Lesson learned.

harmoniums
09-07-2010, 8:52 AM
How's the rifle? My bet is fine, after all those are built like a Brick SH.
Glad the guy is ok.

The rifle is fine, it ejected OK and the bullet for a 7.5mm is a nominal 30 cal bullet, so I doubt anything happened to the barrel ( saw no bulges)
the bolt looks OK to.
I reckon the chamber pressures are about the same for both rounds, so I'm not too worried

Booshanky
09-07-2010, 8:52 AM
I'm guessing you won't make a mistake like this again.
Pain is an excellent teacher.

I am alumni of the school of hard knocks.

Kerplow
09-07-2010, 8:54 AM
if it wasn't hot gas to the mouth, it was hard scope to the forehead! :p

Two Shots
09-07-2010, 9:04 AM
OUCH! Glad your Ok

Mac
09-07-2010, 9:22 AM
The rifle is fine, it ejected OK and the bullet for a 7.5mm is a nominal 30 cal bullet, so I doubt anything happened to the barrel ( saw no bulges)
the bolt looks OK to.
I reckon the chamber pressures are about the same for both rounds, so I'm not too worried

Yeah I have one. Pressures are different Swiss built those
to handle 150% of 45,500psi (GP11) and the three o Eights generate more pressure. So you want to Safety check your Bolt prior to shooting it again.

Just shows the Quality of the firearm in that it vented the gas, and no separations with a cartridge that it does not even fire. Here is a link to check the bolt. Probably fine though.

http://theswissriflesdotcommessageboard.yuku.com/topic/1070/t/K31-accident-SAFETY-CHECKS.html

WTSGDYBBR
09-07-2010, 9:28 AM
My buddy sore by some ammo he said was so great . So he gave me a few rounds. I asked hem your sure there 40ca he said yea 40ca ammo. Well I did not check the rounds just loaded them in my glock 27 pop pop jam hmm pop pop jam WTF!! I saw one of the cases expanded Hugh. I garbed the round and it was a 9mm .I was so pissed off. Well lease I know a 9mm will shoot out of a 40 ca

freonr22
09-07-2010, 9:31 AM
:useless:

harmoniums
09-07-2010, 9:37 AM
Yeah I have one. Pressures are different Swiss built those
to handle 150% of 45,500psi (GP11) and the three o Eights generate more pressure. So you want to Safety check your Bolt prior to shooting it again.

Just shows the Quality of the firearm in that it vented the gas, and no separations with a cartridge that it does not even fire. Here is a link to check the bolt. Probably fine though.

http://theswissriflesdotcommessageboard.yuku.com/topic/1070/t/K31-accident-SAFETY-CHECKS.html

I'm thinking that 308 gets to 58K PSI , but because this cartridge ruptured, the pressure was a bit lower than that, so there's no real way the bolt/chamber/lugs experienced over pressure

Mac
09-07-2010, 9:48 AM
yeah probably right but I would check the interrupter lug on the bolt anyway. Just a wear point.

tomd1584
09-07-2010, 9:49 AM
Glad Boo is alright!

radioburning
09-07-2010, 10:14 AM
if it wasn't hot gas to the mouth, it was hard scope to the forehead! :p

Yeah, Harms, you're leaving out the part where blood was spilled twice that day.:p

aaronraby1
09-07-2010, 10:20 AM
I don't think it's a reload, it's a completely different caliber:

that looks like a really trimmed neck!

shark92651
09-07-2010, 10:42 AM
He's been shooting his lip off around here since he joined - especially before the last presidential election :D

Just kidding :) I'm glad to hear you weren't hurt too bad!

fusionstar
09-07-2010, 10:55 AM
My buddy sore by some ammo he said was so great . So he gave me a few rounds. I asked hem your sure there 40ca he said yea 40ca ammo. Well I did not check the rounds just loaded them in my glock 27 pop pop jam hmm pop pop jam WTF!! I saw one of the cases expanded Hugh. I garbed the round and it was a 9mm .I was so pissed off. Well lease I know a 9mm will shoot out of a 40 ca

if you dont know the difference between a 40 and 9mm just by feel and sight, than.. good luck in life :P

harmoniums
09-07-2010, 10:59 AM
He's been shooting his lip off around here since he joined - especially before the last presidential election :D

Just kidding :) I'm glad to hear you weren't hurt too bad!

I shall be in tomorrow to buy an upper of you!
look for the Irish guy with the scope ring gash on his forehead

Yes folks blood was spilled not on once, not twice, but thrice I dare say.

1/ booshankys wrong cartridge thing

2/ whilst demonstrating on my oswald carcano that open sights was a better way to do the kennedy shots, I got too close and recoiled the scope into my forehead

3/ Radioburing got his first period whilst at the range

supersonic
09-07-2010, 11:07 AM
My buddy sore by some ammo I asked hem your sure there 40ca he said yea 40ca ammo my glock 27 pop pop jam hmm pop pop jam WTF!!expanded Hugh. I garbed the round I was so pissed off. Well lease 40 ca

I just couldn't resist.:p

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4090/4968193384_b7e8dc0552.jpg

Why is the neck on that .308 case so short? Was it trimmed down? Or was that the actual work of the expansion??!!!??

glennsche
09-07-2010, 11:11 AM
I shall be in tomorrow to buy an upper of you!
look for the Irish guy with the scope ring gash on his forehead

Yes folks blood was spilled not on once, not twice, but thrice I dare say.

1/ booshankys wrong cartridge thing

2/ whilst demonstrating on my oswald carcano that open sights was a better way to do the kennedy shots, I got too close and recoiled the scope into my forehead

3/ Radioburing got his first period whilst at the range

nicht ohne schadenfreude schaue ich das an.

Grumpyoldretiredcop
09-07-2010, 11:18 AM
Lucky man! Glad Booshanky didn't hurt himself worse... you're supposed to shoot the bad guy's lips off.

stphnman20
09-07-2010, 11:27 AM
No pain no Gain!

Glad your alright!

ar15barrels
09-07-2010, 12:46 PM
Just kidding :) I'm glad to hear you weren't hurt too bad!

So if he's hurt just a little, that's ok right. :D

ar15barrels
09-07-2010, 12:47 PM
Why is the neck on that .308 case so short? Was it trimmed down? Or was that the actual work of the expansion??!!!??

The 308 case expanded to fill the 7.5 swiss chamber.
Due to the differences in case length, the new 7.5swiss-308 case has quite a short neck.

http://stevespages.com/jpg/cd308winchester.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:7.5_x_55_Swiss.jpg

ar15barrels
09-07-2010, 12:48 PM
you're supposed to shoot the bad guy's lips off.

umm, some people would say that the bad guy's lips were indeed shot off in this case. ;)

shark92651
09-07-2010, 12:52 PM
So if he's hurt just a little, that's ok right. :D

Well... I think anyone that was being a cheerleader for Obama deserves at least one smack to the face.

:D

ar15barrels
09-07-2010, 1:02 PM
Well... I think anyone that was being a cheerleader for Obama deserves at least one smack to the face.

:D

QFT!

Jpach
09-07-2010, 1:04 PM
Holy crap man. Good to know Boo is OK.

Pics of his filthy liberal lips please!

ar15barrels
09-07-2010, 1:06 PM
Pics of his filthy liberal lips please!

http://www.livingtv.co.uk/images/obama-lips-431x300.jpg

Jpach
09-07-2010, 1:19 PM
Daddy loves him some chocolate

Fobjoe
09-07-2010, 1:21 PM
http://www.livingtv.co.uk/images/obama-lips-431x300.jpg

oh man! I just laughed out loud in class. . .

Booshanky
09-07-2010, 2:16 PM
Yeesh, you guys are acting like I put a big bloody scope ring in my forehead or something. ;)

Booshanky
09-07-2010, 2:17 PM
I just think it's funny that .454 ended up getting to punch me in the mouth after all. Haha.

rumblebee
09-07-2010, 2:23 PM
:rofl2::rofl2::rofl2:

http://www.livingtv.co.uk/images/obama-lips-431x300.jpg

Hopi
09-07-2010, 2:29 PM
I just think it's funny that .454 ended up getting to punch me in the mouth after all. Haha.

LOL. Damn that .454! You should send a PM to his new screen name, I bet he hasn't seen this yet....being that it's in a gun section of the forum.


And most importantly, the gun isn't hurt is it?

tacticalcity
09-07-2010, 2:32 PM
Very lucky this is all that happened. Could have been much worse. Glad you are alright Boo.

cannon
09-07-2010, 2:39 PM
Boo, Glad to hear you were not seriously hurt.

gmcal
09-07-2010, 3:03 PM
The vast right wing conspiracy strikes again!

Glad you're ok.

You guys know you're not supposed bleed all over the gun range, right?

sevensix2x51
09-07-2010, 3:28 PM
i love the bus-driver thread title. :thumbsup:

good to hear you boys are ok, and man enough to laugh it off!

now pay attention dammit!!! :D

CSACANNONEER
09-07-2010, 3:31 PM
Glad the gun is unhurt!

I guess this is a good example of how when liberals don't pay attention and listen to the rest of us, things just blow up in their faces.


OK, Boo, I'm glad you're OK too.

Rekrab
09-07-2010, 3:52 PM
I bought my first Mosin from .454 and it never tried to blow me up. Must be the vast right wing conspiracy.

But in all seriousness, glad you're OK Boo. Coming to the C3 meeting on the 11th?

odysseus
09-07-2010, 3:54 PM
Come-back of the week right there.

http://www.livingtv.co.uk/images/obama-lips-431x300.jpg

fed20
09-07-2010, 5:23 PM
^^^

Thats just wrong.
Lol though.

Connor P Price
09-07-2010, 7:25 PM
http://www.livingtv.co.uk/images/obama-lips-431x300.jpg

Very rarely do I have occasion to laugh this hard due to a post on calguns. Thanks Randall.

Booshanky
09-07-2010, 7:29 PM
Here's a photo 1 day later. I fully anticipate reading the well-thought-out reasons why not being completely reactionary in my politics relates to this accident. Aaaaaaaannnnnndddd............GO!

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_4bf9tmqvjjY/TIcBiy2XAiI/AAAAAAABThM/O6XSejiem_s/s800/IMAG0694.jpg

Exposed
09-07-2010, 7:33 PM
I saw it on his FB page. His lips don't look as bad as mine after eating the atomic hot wings from Alondras hot wings in Alhambra. I was seconds away from calling 911. No joke. :(

Exposed
09-07-2010, 7:35 PM
Are you coming to our C3 meeting in Monrovia this Sat?

Beetle Bailey
09-07-2010, 7:43 PM
If it didn't require a trip to the ER, it's not too bad. And you are not the first guy to ever make a mistake like that. At the range I once saw the blown out .223 rem case ejected from an AK in 7.62x39. Another time a guy asked me to help him with his Marlin 336 (chambered in .30-30), which he couldn't get to feed. It didn't take me long to figure out the problem: he filled the tube magazine up with 7mm Rem. Mag.!! :eek: Luckily the lifter couldn't bring the long 7mm cartridge up to be chambered. Yet another guy was getting horrid groups out of his .300 Weatherby Magnum until a RSO informed him that he was shooting .300 Winchester Magnum ammo out of it. Apparently he just went to a gunshop and asked for ".300 Magnum ammo" and the clerk simply gave him .300 Win Mag instead of asking "Win Mag, Weatherby Mag, H&H Mag? What kind?"

So, did you ever do that calendar?

rkt88edmo
09-07-2010, 7:51 PM
Hope you get better quick boo, glad no permanent damage was done.

Too bad it wasn't quite big enough to leave you a hole you could hang some metal from!

Booshanky
09-08-2010, 6:59 AM
Are you coming to our C3 meeting in Monrovia this Sat?

No, I don't think I can make it. I'm doing a quinceanera next weekend and so I've already made wife-plans this weekend. Totally down for the Shoot N Que though.


The lip looks worse now than it did when I did it, but mostly because it's just scabbed and crusty.

stphnman20
09-08-2010, 7:03 AM
Not as bad as I thought it would be.. Damn.. lol..

Booshanky
09-08-2010, 9:23 AM
Not as bad as I thought it would be.. Damn.. lol..

Yeah, the second I pulled the trigger I was like "Um, that wasn't supposed to happen". Then I tasted blood in my mouth and kinda freaked, but when I ran my tongue over my teeth and felt that they were all there I figured it wasn't so bad. Mostly just busted up the skin a bunch. My lip feels all fat.

ar15barrels
09-08-2010, 9:40 AM
Yeah, the second I pulled the trigger I was like "Um, that wasn't supposed to happen". Then I tasted blood in my mouth and kinda freaked, but when I ran my tongue over my teeth and felt that they were all there I figured it wasn't so bad.

The worst feeling you will ever have is when you taste blood and run your tounge over your teeth and find some missing.
Been there, done that, got the re-constructed teeth to show for it...

Booshanky
09-08-2010, 10:35 AM
The worst feeling you will ever have is when you taste blood and run your tounge over your teeth and find some missing.
Been there, done that, got the re-constructed teeth to show for it...

Certainly one of my first thoughts was "GLAD I HAVE HEALTH INSURANCE!" Haha.

xrMike
09-08-2010, 10:42 AM
The worst feeling you will ever have is when you taste blood and run your tounge over your teeth and find some missing.
Been there, done that, got the re-constructed teeth to show for it...From a firearm, or a fight?

ar15barrels
09-08-2010, 10:58 AM
From a firearm, or a fight?

Once from a fight in high school.
Once from a gravity related altercation with the ground.

dilligaffrn
09-08-2010, 11:42 AM
Well... I think anyone that was being a cheerleader for Obama deserves at least one smack to the face.

:D

YUP!

LOL

Karma...

dadoody
09-15-2010, 4:02 PM
He was shooting my Swiss K31 sniper setup (whom I bought from Boo's antithesis, .454, the Romanian guy) and somehow a 308 winchester got mixed in with the 7.5 Swiss.
The round chambered but expanded too much on firing and ruptured sending lots of hot gas back through the bolt and out through the hole that the striker rests in whilst on safe, right into Boos big ole flapping lips.
Gave him some powder burns and bleeding gums.
Boo being a filthy liberal-type was of course wearing glasses that protected his beady eyes.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4090/4968193384_b7e8dc0552.jpg

shown next to a 7.5 swiss


Whoa. Kerplow!

Greg-Dawg
09-15-2010, 4:19 PM
We'll call Boo "sugar lips".