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jlh95811
09-06-2010, 3:08 PM
Just to clarify. I am looking for a muzzle device which will quiet the blast to the shooter and those to his sides AND something that will hide muzzle flash. If such thing exists please let me know.

Alright so I bought a PWS FSC556 compensator for my AR. It is INSANELY loud. People next to me at the range are complaining. I feel my shooting is being affected by the boom of this boom stick. It sound like my Tikka .308win. My brother sits next to me at the table and says it knocks the sweat of his face. I had him shoot it and WOW... I could not keep from flinching.

Prior to this I had an AR with NO muzzle device as it wore a fake can. I loved the sound of it.
I bought this one because it had flash hiding properties and thought it would make the rifle more enjoyable to shoot due to the reduced recoil. Well of course the recoil of this round(5.56x45) is nothing so I don't need it anyway.

So I'm thinking what I need is a flash hider?
What are some of the best ones?
I want something that is not going to make the rifle louder. Quieter would be fine though I'm not sure anything like that is available short of a suppressor and I'm not getting one of those anytime soon.

jackliu239
09-06-2010, 3:46 PM
First of all read this topic I started, lots of good info there.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=338727

I ended buying this
http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/sid=13016/pid=5594/sku/Levang_Linear_Compensator?utm_medium=shoppingengin e&utm_source=googlebase&mc_id=10000&gdftrk=gdfV21820_a_7c187_a_7c745_a_7c231015022_d_2 31015022_d_789

It won't really decrease muzzle that much, but it will make the gun jump into your body instead of jump into the air. Also, that will will decrease sound of gunfire considerably, even more than with just the standard flash hidder.

Noobert
09-06-2010, 3:53 PM
Levang linear comp, or go back to a fake can

CoyoteHunter555
09-06-2010, 4:05 PM
http://www.riflegear.com/p-638-noveske-kx3-flaming-pig-flash-hider.aspx

EDIT: You want that sound down range, you got it

tomd1584
09-06-2010, 4:20 PM
Its $8 too.

http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/a2-flash-hider-p/flash%20hider%20a2.htm

http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/v/vspfiles/photos/Flash%20Hider%20A2-2T.jpg

Twinsen
09-06-2010, 4:22 PM
If a brake isn't loud, it isn't working. The exception being silencers.

caldivers
09-06-2010, 4:23 PM
What's wrong with a good old A2 birdcadge. used it for years and years in Marines and in the Army. I have it on three AR's tried and true and under 10 bucks!!

http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=21246/Product/A2_Flash_Suppressor

caldivers
09-06-2010, 4:24 PM
HAHA.. Tom is thinking the same thing.LOL

seal20
09-06-2010, 4:28 PM
Alright so I bought a PWS FSC556 compensator for my AR. It is INSANELY loud. People next to me at the range are complaining. I feel my shooting is being affected by the boom of this boom stick. It sound like my Tikka .308win. My brother sits next to me at the table and says it knocks the sweat of his face. I had him shoot it and WOW... I could not keep from flinching.
B]

Calll 9 WAAAAA WAAAAA....I THINK I HEAR THE WAAAAAAAMBULANCE....

Seriously, it's a firing range with FIRE arms.....what do you expect? I love my FSC556 and the dude next to me can eat a d*ck with his freakin mini 14 slingin brass 42yrds off his bench.... The FSC556 is a great comp/flash hider!

thevic
09-06-2010, 4:31 PM
Shoot the fsc556 with out ear protection. Hard ringing in both ears. You will be sorry

I was actually out chasing a bunny with mine and i fired a 3 round string and i barely felt the bang in my ears. Pobably from the adrenaline rush.

Darklyte27
09-06-2010, 4:39 PM
a2 works fine, if you want flash hiding thats another story

luckystrike
09-06-2010, 4:45 PM
if people are complaining about loud noises then ask them why they are at a shooting range.

PolishMike
09-06-2010, 4:46 PM
I <3 my FSC556's

OutlawDon
09-06-2010, 4:51 PM
I do like the AAC Blackout for it's looks.

I've ran brakes and I've ran flash hiders. Both have their ups and downs. If shooting in enclosed areas, brakes/comps will thump hard! Ran the POF brake for a bit but sold that. I didn't mind the loudness though.

At this time, I have the A2. Simple, cheap and works. Don't overthink it or overspend.

Might get this though....it's an A2 with closed front for brake-like properties. :)

http://www.m1surplus.com/dpms%20a2%20brake%2099231000198.htm

Before...

http://healthbydon.com/ar15wet.jpg

jlh95811
09-06-2010, 5:06 PM
Calll 9 WAAAAA WAAAAA....I THINK I HEAR THE WAAAAAAAMBULANCE....

Seriously, it's a firing range with FIRE arms.....what do you expect? I love my FSC556 and the dude next to me can eat a d*ck with his freakin mini 14 slingin brass 42yrds off his bench.... The FSC556 is a great comp/flash hider!

Firstly, you needn't be such a jerk about it.
Secondly, I actually love everything about the FSC556 except for the noise. I intend to keep it on one rifle that will be my go to. However I want something much quiter on my plinker.
I'm looking for something that quiets first and cuts muzzle flash second.

jlh95811
09-06-2010, 5:07 PM
a2 works fine, if you want flash hiding thats another story

I thought the A2 was a flash hider? No? What is it?

jlh95811
09-06-2010, 5:08 PM
if people are complaining about loud noises then ask them why they are at a shooting range.

Again; My brother and I share a table every time we go to the range. This thing hurts our ears. It is great for what it is but I need something better for informal shooting.

Cyc Wid It
09-06-2010, 5:12 PM
Battlecomp maybe?

sevensix2x51
09-06-2010, 5:16 PM
how bout that noveske flaming pig thing? dont get much more forward facing than that...

of course i never use flash hiders, only brakes. something about being featureless is just way more awesome to me...

jlh95811
09-06-2010, 5:20 PM
how bout that noveske flaming pig thing? dont get much more forward facing than that...

of course i never use flash hiders, only brakes. something about being featureless is just way more awesome to me...

1. Anybody know how well the flaming pig does on muzzle flash?

2. I had no clue a flash hider was a no-no on featureless.

bombadillo
09-06-2010, 5:23 PM
Levang Linear as mentioned above is the only good method I have seen since you're looking for quiet #1. I don't care really how loud it is as I usually plug and muff at the range. You never know what guy is going to be sitting next to you with a .300 win mag and you're plinking with a .22lr. I would say just get used to it but I have a bennie cooley brake and it works amazing but its really loud. I'd just stick to that for being a good flash hider and great brake. Its a range for goodness sake.

CoyoteHunter555
09-06-2010, 5:26 PM
1. Anybody know how well the flaming pig does on muzzle flash?

2. I had no clue a flash hider was a no-no on featureless.

1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrdojpFUp4c - it shoots it out the front- flaming pig

2. Now you know

bombadillo
09-06-2010, 5:26 PM
mr3Yap_vBQw

Go tromix, I heard they're great for the range :D

http://www.battlecomp.com/
Maybe this one?? You could also use it on a featureless.

sevensix2x51
09-06-2010, 5:29 PM
1. Anybody know how well the flaming pig does on muzzle flash?

2. I had no clue a flash hider was a no-no on featureless.

evil feature that kills babies and ladies and kittens-
http://riflegear.com/images/Product/icon/449.jpg

completely safe, for upstanding members of society-
http://riflegear.com/images/Product/icon/264.jpg

what about that dont you understand, it's totally obvious to myself and the members of state government. :D

Jpach
09-06-2010, 5:29 PM
Battlecomp maybe?

Yep. I say go with the battlecomp

Patrick Aherne
09-06-2010, 5:35 PM
I am biased: Battlecomp

jlh95811
09-06-2010, 5:37 PM
Battlecomp is expensive but does look good. I'm gonna check youtube to see if there are any tests.

Cyc Wid It
09-06-2010, 5:40 PM
There should be plenty of stuff posted around the internet on Battlecomp. It was designed locally and seems to get great reviews on m4carbine etc.

tomd1584
09-06-2010, 5:41 PM
Battlecomp is expensive but does look good. I'm gonna check youtube to see if there are any tests.

There is a great thread over on M4carbine.net about it, several members include videos too.

Pthfndr
09-06-2010, 5:52 PM
1. Anybody know how well the flaming pig does on muzzle flash?

2. I had no clue a flash hider was a no-no on featureless.

I had the opportunity to use an AR equipped with one. Very little sound to the sides, no muzzle blast to the sides, VERY effective at reducing the recoil (such as it is on an AR).

http://www.riflegear.com/p-638-noveske-kx3-flaming-pig-flash-hider.aspx

http://www.riflegear.com/images/Product/medium/638.jpg

saki302
09-06-2010, 6:14 PM
+1 for the Levang linear comp- it's not a great comp, but it IS quiet, and isn't obscenely large.

-Dave

stevie
09-06-2010, 6:44 PM
Another vote for battlecomp

jlh95811
09-06-2010, 7:04 PM
Ok I'm getting close to a selection.
I've made this thread a poll now. Please vote.
Reason for poll selections:
Flaming Pig is HUGE. No thanks
Seems the Levang and BattleComp are the two most reccomended.
I left an option for something else just in case you most helpful folks have any other suggestions. Just nothing too large.

slappomatt
09-06-2010, 7:37 PM
Calll 9 WAAAAA WAAAAA....I THINK I HEAR THE WAAAAAAAMBULANCE....

Seriously, it's a firing range with FIRE arms.....what do you expect? I love my FSC556 and the dude next to me can eat a d*ck with his freakin mini 14 slingin brass 42yrds off his bench.... The FSC556 is a great comp/flash hider!

This. If you want a break that works it will be loud. Tell the pansy's next to you to man up. If you still don't like it get an A2 flash hider for $8. If that isn't good enough of a flash hider for you get a AAC blackout for $99 it is the best flash hider.

jackliu239
09-06-2010, 7:59 PM
Consider Battlecom is 4x more expensive... I would not pick it

BMWguy206
09-06-2010, 8:17 PM
Might want to take a look at the Troy Claymore muzzle brake. It directs the sound/blast directly forward so this is a great CQB option since the concussion is blasted to the sides.

I went from a Troy Claymore to a BattleComp and the BC is louder, isn't a flash hider, but is a great compensator.

I don't know if the Troy Claymore is a flash hider. It's advertised as a brake from Troy but when I had it I noticed a small amount of muzzle rise. It's also less loud than the BC and much cheaper as well.

dchang0
09-06-2010, 8:27 PM
I think that if you try more muzzle brakes, you'll find the FSC556 to be one of the quietest. If you think that it's too loud, you should steer totally clear from muzzle brakes and compensators (anything that directs gas in any direction other than forward) and stick with just flash hiders.

If you want to hear loud, check out the SJC Titan or the JP muzzle brakes--those are LOUD and make the FSC556 sound like a .22LR.

naimad
09-06-2010, 8:28 PM
http://www.advanced-armament.com/product.aspx?pid=682

Dhena81
09-06-2010, 8:41 PM
The PWS FSC556 seems to be the best compromise with gas and flash suppression. If you don't care much about 5.56 felt recoil and want to keep the flash out of your eyes then the best IMO is the AAC Blackout or smith vortex.

Battlecomp magdump
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7rnuWQFdBg&feature=related

PWS FSC556 magdump FA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeMwVyur0qc&NR=1

PWS FSC556 at night at the end of the video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnae8_N_BiM

Night shooting with A2, Vltor VC-1, AAC Blackout, Smith Vortex, PWS TTO, and the Battlecomp 1.0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8DS4Yc3BfY

Noveske Flaming Pig at night
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrdojpFUp4c&feature=related

jlh95811
09-06-2010, 8:55 PM
WOW Dhena81...
Thanks so much for doing all that legwork to help me out!
Your links have showed me a few key things.
1. AAC Blackout is out of the running for the same reason the Vortex is... That ping is annoying as hell!
2. I LOVE the sound of the BattleComp
3. The BattleComp provides a decent amount of flash suppression.
The BattleComp is definately in the lead in my ming right now.
Thanks again. ;)

Grumpyoldretiredcop
09-06-2010, 9:06 PM
I voted "Other", as I favor the YHM Phantom flash hiders (or brakes for featureless builds).

seal20
09-06-2010, 9:27 PM
Firstly, you needn't be such a jerk about it.
Secondly, I actually love everything about the FSC556 except for the noise. I intend to keep it on one rifle that will be my go to. However I want something much quiter on my plinker.
I'm looking for something that quiets first and cuts muzzle flash second.

LOL. If you're plinking the A2 will do you just fine. In fact....I heard the A2 has been known to work well in a couple real world applications as well...:43:

OutlawDon
09-06-2010, 9:38 PM
Done. Rainier Arms XTC

http://militarytimes.com/blogs/gearscout/2010/05/24/rainier-arms-xtc-xtreme-tactical-compensator/

http://militarytimes.com/blogs/gearscout/wp-content/blogs.dir/5/files/rainier-arms-xtc/868w9544-1024-stick-mt.jpg

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vandal
09-06-2010, 9:39 PM
Well hell I just had a FSC556 permanently installed on a 14.5 and haven't shot it yet. Guess I'll be doubling up on ear pro and acting grouchy to keep the whiners away.

Also have a Battle Comp on order for a 16"

plan-b
09-06-2010, 11:10 PM
You still haven't mentioned what kind of hearing protection you and your brother use at the range. Have you tried doubling up with ear plugs under muffs?

keson
09-07-2010, 12:01 AM
if you think your PWS FSC556 is loud then you should try my KAC triple tap..

Dhena81
09-07-2010, 12:08 AM
WOW Dhena81...
Thanks so much for doing all that legwork to help me out!
Your links have showed me a few key things.
1. AAC Blackout is out of the running for the same reason the Vortex is... That ping is annoying as hell!
2. I LOVE the sound of the BattleComp
3. The BattleComp provides a decent amount of flash suppression.
The BattleComp is definately in the lead in my ming right now.
Thanks again. ;)
No Problem.

jlh95811
09-07-2010, 12:23 AM
You still haven't mentioned what kind of hearing protection you and your brother use at the range. Have you tried doubling up with ear plugs under muffs?

We use standard foam plugs. It ain't a darn .50cal ;)
I like being able to hear when a cease fire is called for.

dchang0
09-07-2010, 12:27 AM
if you think your PWS FSC556 is loud then you should try my KAC triple tap..


Geez, the KAC triple tap's not loud either! I have both and only use a pair of Howard Leight Impact Sport earmuffs.

mike452
09-07-2010, 1:20 AM
A2 or get something worthy of being copied by others. Something without a brand name.

Twinsen
09-07-2010, 1:33 AM
I thought the A2 was a flash hider? No? What is it?

He was referring to how terrible it is at reducing flash.

jlh95811
09-07-2010, 1:35 AM
He was referring to how terrible it is at reducing flash.

From the vids I've seen the A2 is actually quite good at flash reduction.

All in All I'm fairly certain I will be going with the BattleComp.

Alaric
09-07-2010, 1:46 AM
We use standard foam plugs. It ain't a darn .50cal ;)
I like being able to hear when a cease fire is called for.

Battle comp seems pretty cool. But for the price of one of those you could buy about 6 pairs of these. Hand them out to people at the range when they complain. :33:

Electronic Ear Muffs. (http://cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/product/standard-item.jsp?id=0072558230079a&navCount=1&podId=0072558&parentId=cat20801&masterpathid=&navAction=jump&cmCat=MainCatcat602007-cat20801&catalogCode=9IS&rid=&parentType=index&indexId=cat20801&hasJS=true)

Foam ear plugs are ok too, if you're into that retro thing. I've been using electronic muffs for a few years now and I'd never go back to foam. There's nothing like having the shots muffled, but being able to hear the conversation happening at the far end of the range.

jlh95811
09-07-2010, 2:02 AM
Battle comp seems pretty cool. But for the price of one of those you could buy about 6 pairs of these. Hand them out to people at the range when they complain. :33:

Electronic Ear Muffs. (http://cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/product/standard-item.jsp?id=0072558230079a&navCount=1&podId=0072558&parentId=cat20801&masterpathid=&navAction=jump&cmCat=MainCatcat602007-cat20801&catalogCode=9IS&rid=&parentType=index&indexId=cat20801&hasJS=true)

Foam ear plugs are ok too, if you're into that retro thing. I've been using electronic muffs for a few years now and I'd never go back to foam. There's nothing like having the shots muffled, but being able to hear the conversation happening at the far end of the range.

I can't properly shoulder and fire a rifle with ear muffs. I've tried them and they are just too big.

badicedog
09-07-2010, 6:22 AM
We use standard foam plugs. It ain't a darn .50cal ;)
I like being able to hear when a cease fire is called for.

Keep your FSC556, buy a good pair of electronic ear pro and call it a day! Stop your whining for God's sake man! It's too loud, it makes a ping sound, it bother's my neighbors, it's too expensive, I can't shoulder it properly with ear pro...WTH? $65.00 on good ear pro and you're golden. That's the problem, your using foam plugs for god's sake. Man up! rant over...:chris:

NoExpert
09-07-2010, 6:45 AM
I have a Troy Medieval Muzzle Brake on my M14 variant. Recoils flat, not much flash and isn't horribly loud on my 18.5" barrel. I plan to put one on my AR upper when I get it. When I was right next to the rifle I was a little flinchy but at a couple feet away like you are at most ranges I was fine. The percussion was nothing compared to my JP recoil eliminator on my 22" barrel, that thing blew the dust off the benches to the sides.

H2O MAN
09-07-2010, 8:21 AM
I am looking for a muzzle device which will quiet the blast to the shooter and those to his sides
AND something that will hide muzzle flash. If such thing exists please let me know.

So I'm thinking what I need is a flash hider?
What are some of the best ones?

SEI (http://www.smithenterprise.com/products06.05.html) Vortex G6A2 Sound Suppressor Capable Flash Eliminator

http://www.smithenterprise.com/imagesprod/Vortex_G6A2-Retail.lg.jpg

http://www.smithenterprise.com/imagesprod/1001v.lg.jpg

JTROKS
09-07-2010, 9:14 AM
if people are complaining about loud noises then ask them why they are at a shooting range.

:rofl2::rofl2::rofl2:

GutPunch
09-07-2010, 9:29 AM
I can't properly shoulder and fire a rifle with ear muffs. I've tried them and they are just too big.

I'm wondering if you are shooting indoors or in a tin inclosure which would make the sound worse. I stuck a FSC556 on my 16" BCM Middy and yeah its louder but the advantage of extremely limited muzzle climb can't be beat. Also, consider something like these bad boys.

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=453211

Two settings on them. The darker end is a very nice dampener. I was at the range yesterday watching someone use my AR. I was able to stand next to the shooter without a problem.

ar15barrels
09-07-2010, 9:40 AM
Its $8 too.

http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/a2-flash-hider-p/flash%20hider%20a2.htm

http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/v/vspfiles/photos/Flash%20Hider%20A2-2T.jpg

I have them for $5.

If you REALLY shop around, you could find them for $3.

Wherryj
09-07-2010, 9:46 AM
if people are complaining about loud noises then ask them why they are at a shooting range.

http://www.airsoft.com/

ar15barrels
09-07-2010, 9:48 AM
Stop your whining for God's sake man! It's too loud, it makes a ping sound, it bother's my neighbors, it's too expensive, I can't shoulder it properly with ear pro...WTH? $65.00 on good ear pro and you're golden. That's the problem, your using foam plugs for god's sake. Man up!

+1000.

dchang0
09-07-2010, 10:06 AM
I can't properly shoulder and fire a rifle with ear muffs. I've tried them and they are just too big.

The Howard Leight Impact Sport earmuffs I mentioned are slim profile and don't get in the way of the rifle stock.

Alternately, you could always spend a little on higher-quality earplugs. Some are even custom-molded to your ears and have little attenuators in them so that you can hear range commands. There's no need to spend big bucks on muzzle devices when you can spend moderate money on good ear pro.

BTW, the BattleComp is basically a rip-off of the KAC Triple Tap.

HKROB
09-07-2010, 10:21 AM
+1000.
:iagree: dude needs to sack up ;).

tommyid1
09-07-2010, 10:48 AM
pws

tjlayzer
09-07-2010, 11:26 AM
+ 1 for the Battlecomp. I have it on my AR Pistol.

caldivers
09-07-2010, 1:52 PM
I still say A2. less than $10 buck, all day long. Tried and true.

DRM6000
09-07-2010, 2:06 PM
i don't see the problem. i shoot with a fsc556 and nobody has ever complained (except for an instructor who stood right next the gun.) keep it the way it is.

tiger222
09-07-2010, 6:46 PM
A1 flash hider, or the good old tri-prong. If you want to be extra flashy a HK G3 with adaptor for $20 at RTG parts.

Crowesnest
09-07-2010, 7:10 PM
I just acquired an Addax Tactical Phalanx.

SimpleCountryActuary
09-07-2010, 8:43 PM
A1 flash hider, or the good old tri-prong. If you want to be extra flashy a HK G3 with adaptor for $20 at RTG parts.

Then there's the M1 Carbine flash hider, also known as the "Cone of Loudness".

kingjoey
09-07-2010, 8:45 PM
If you'd be willing to do a decent (and unbiased) write-up/review, I'll send you a KA-1230T free of charge. You'd be hard-pressed to find something that small and light that works even nearly as well.

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll284/kingarmory/DSC00893.jpg

zoglog
09-07-2010, 9:25 PM
We use standard foam plugs. It ain't a darn .50cal ;)
I like being able to hear when a cease fire is called for.

it's not always about what you're firing, but the guy next to you ;)

JockItch
09-07-2010, 9:34 PM
++1 for the Battlecomp!

jlh95811
09-07-2010, 9:35 PM
If you'd be willing to do a decent (and unbiased) write-up/review, I'll send you a KA-1230T free of charge. You'd be hard-pressed to find something that small and light that works even nearly as well.


I certainly thank you very much for the offer but I do not want to commit myself to a project. I am in the middle of getting back to work and relocating so things will be rather busy and played by ear for me for the next couple months at least. I'm not sure I will have time to do any shooting.

zoglog
09-07-2010, 9:39 PM
hmm that rainier arms one sounds tasty. that coupon code still works D:

jlh95811
09-07-2010, 11:40 PM
I misread the original post, I was thinking 7.62x39 for some reason. The KA-1222A for 5.56 rifles looks a little different. No worries though, apparently giving away $50 parts for just some unbiased feedback is too tall of a request :rolleyes:

It's not like that at all. I'd love to do it. It's just that it may be months before I can actually test it out. Then again it could be weeks. That's my life right now. :o
If you'd still like to send me one knowing this info I'd be crazy to say no. I just don't want to put you out. ;)

kingjoey
09-08-2010, 12:09 AM
We're working on a big production batch right now so we don't got many to spare right now anyways, so a couple of weeks/months is fine. We really believe in 'word of mouth' advertising rather than buying whole page ads in SGN or G&A so we usually give away a percentage of parts from each production run just for people to try out for free and spread the word. Got some new parts coming out in the next few months as well and we'll give away a few of those new items as well. Contact me in a month or two when you got some time.

jlh95811
09-08-2010, 12:14 AM
We're working on a big production batch right now so we don't got many to spare right now anyways, so a couple of weeks/months is fine. We really believe in 'word of mouth' advertising rather than buying whole page ads in SGN or G&A so we usually give away a percentage of parts from each production run just for people to try out for free and spread the word. Got some new parts coming out in the next few months as well and we'll give away a few of those new items as well. Contact me in a month or two when you got some time.

Will do.

OutlawDon
09-08-2010, 11:39 PM
Pricey but another one to check out...looks very effective.

http://battlecomp.com/yahoo_site_admin/assets/images/Stickman_Battlecomp.247120143_large.jpg

http://www.battlecomp.com/

QEBRLHsPU68

tdaughg
09-08-2010, 11:50 PM
between a yhm flash hider and the battle comp i didnt really notice much difference in sound,now granted i was shooting at an indoor range so either way its pretty loud. the muzzle rise is a different story. almost no rise with the battle comp.

NoseGoblin
09-09-2010, 7:52 AM
First off, buy the guys at the range some big boy pants. Then take their guns away from them as they are clearly not old enough to own a fire arm......I just cant believe anyone can get upset about a .223 comped or not.

/sarcasm off/ A2 or battlecomp