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Chief-7700
08-30-2010, 6:59 PM
Which Company makes the best conversion unit for a .45ACP 1911 that slide locks on the empty magazine.

JohnFLand
08-30-2010, 7:37 PM
Kimber makes a nice one that doesn't lock the slide back BUT, by using a SigPower follower with a slight modification (picture posted here: http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=419450&highlight=sigpower) you will get the slide to stay open (not lock back) after the last round. $289 at Midway, $20 mags, comes in black or silver: http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=742983 (black).

For true lockback, see http://www.advantagearms.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=AASOS&Category_Code=1911 (but note: they have suspended taking orders).[/URL]

See also [URL]http://www.tacticalsol.com/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&Itemid=62&category_id=10&product_id=105 (http://www.advantagearms.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=AASOS&Category_Code=1911) (pricey, ugly sights).

gasol1ne
08-30-2010, 7:39 PM
this really doesnt answer your question, but have you looked into a Ruger 22/45? It has the same grip angle and control locations as a 1911.

I was thinking about doing a .22 conversion on my .45 but realized that the cost of a .22 conversion was almost the same as the cost of buying a 22/45. Also the reliability on the Ruger is top notch, it eats anything. I have shot at least 4k rounds through it and had no problems at all.

JohnFLand
08-30-2010, 7:53 PM
But the trigger, controls and balance are not the same as on the 1911. What I wanted in a conversion was a cheap (after the capital outlay) way to learn MY gun, not some other gun.

gasol1ne
08-30-2010, 8:16 PM
But the trigger, controls and balance are not the same as on the 1911. What I wanted in a conversion was a cheap (after the capital outlay) way to learn MY gun, not some other gun.

makes sense, nothing beats trigger time, and nothing is cheaper than shooting .22. I did a little financial analysis as well when i started shooting .22 and the cost savings of shooting .22 instead of .45, paid for itself in about 1500 rounds (about 3 boxes .22 value packs), and that was including the cost of capital.

Grumpyoldretiredcop
08-30-2010, 8:39 PM
I bought a used Kimber kit - it runs flawlessly on Remington Golden Bullet and most other ammo I've tried in it. I don't worry about it not locking open as the Kimber firing pin won't peen the chamber mouth. Kimber says you can dry fire it all you want without hurting it, and after doing some dry fire, examining the chamber mouth and seeing no signs of firing pin strikes, I believe it.

It'll do until the Advantage Arms kits again become readily available. They are set up to lock open on the last round.

Chief-7700
08-30-2010, 8:47 PM
Thank you for your input. Looking at getting the following conversion:
http://www.bobmarvel22conversion.com/about.html

GM4spd
08-30-2010, 8:48 PM
Colt is the only one that locks back. There is a conversion kit in the
parts for sale section for $425 which is a good price for a real Colt. They
are NOT super accurate but you can shoot ANY ammo and they work.I
have shot 1000s of rounds thru them and the Service Model Ace for the
past 40 years, my favorite 22 pistol.
They give you the real feel for sure. Pete

http://www.fototime.com/E4B6081E6619AE0/standard.jpg
http://www.fototime.com/E9815C8618D8A7E/standard.jpg
http://www.fototime.com/BA2FDBE10365E17/standard.jpg

http://www.fototime.com/0647DC5482F1541/standard.jpg

freonr22
08-30-2010, 9:07 PM
is there any difference in accuracy between the Kimber and others?

redcliff
08-30-2010, 10:51 PM
The Bob Marvel conversion is considerred the most accurate from what I hear also.

The Colt .22. conversions are lots of fun though, and reasonablly accurate and they function just like a normal 1911 and get a bit extra kick from the floating chamber. But they are a bit tempermental towards ammo and cleaning in my experience. I have a Service Model Ace I bought new about 1980 and have put thousands of rounds through it. I've not had the pleasure of trying a Kimber conversion or Ceiner (I would never order from Ceiner tbh, I don't like his customer service, or lack thereof).

Grumpyoldretiredcop
08-30-2010, 11:39 PM
Colt is the only one that locks back.

Sorry, not correct. The Advantage Arms kit also locks open after firing the last round. See #2 under "Exclusive Features of Our 1911 Conversion Kit" on this page (http://www.advantagearms.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=AASOS&Category_Code=1911).

-hanko
08-30-2010, 11:50 PM
The Bob Marvel conversion is considerred the most accurate from what I hear also.
Unless you can find a used Kart conversion:D

Your comments re: Ciener are accurate;)

-hanko

Chief-7700
08-31-2010, 1:22 PM
Just got off the phone with Bob Marvel. He is coming out with redesigned .22
Conversion unit with in two months.

redcliff
08-31-2010, 9:18 PM
Just got off the phone with Bob Marvel. He is coming out with redesigned .22
Conversion unit with in two months.

Judging by the 1911's he builds, I'm sure it will be incredibly accurate.

TMC
08-31-2010, 9:26 PM
Tactical Solutions makes an excellent converion for either single stack 1911's or STI/SV 1911's. The mags are machined from aluminum and work flawlesly. It also locks back on the last rounds. They make and Iron sight version, one with a picatinny rail and one with both iron sights and a rail in between the front and rear sight.

www.tacticalsol.com