PDA

View Full Version : Thinking of Moving to CA


Dryden
08-29-2010, 3:44 AM
Hello...

I'm currently in KS and thinking of moving to the Bay area for a job. C&R, multi-state CCW, your basic 2A enthusiast. I don't currently own an AK, SKS or AR but I do own some rifles I'll need to verify that I may still possess - mostly WWI and WWII relics. Any hints on how not to come out of this feeling violated like the prom queen on the morning after?

I'm seriously considering getting an apartment in SF and leaving my family in KS. I can probably live with just my 1911 and a 12 gauge pump while I'm in town. Thoughts? I assume my chances of receiving a ccw permit in San Francisco are pretty much equal to the chances of a hurricane hitting South Dakota in the middle of winter.

Thanks!
Dryden

rromeo
08-29-2010, 4:37 AM
Yes, your days of carrying concealed are numbered, unless Gavin Newsom is your cousin or something.
The AK, AR, and SKS can be checked through the flow chart at the top of the page. If they are named on the list, you cant bring them in. You will have disassemble your magazines that are over ten rounds, or leave them behind.
Are your old guns bolt action or semi auto? If they're bolt, it's probably no big deal. If they're semi, run them down the flow chart.
California really is not the worst state for owning guns.

VictorFranko
08-29-2010, 6:43 AM
2A rights aside, why would anyone consider moving to California at this time in history?

The good days of California are way behind us.
The government is in shambles and teetering on the verge of bankruptcy.
Our elected leadership is a joke, and this November we get to choose a new governor between loser #1 and an old retread politician, loser #2.
California has the third highest unemployment rate in the country at 12.3%.*
California is the national leader in welfare cases.**
California leads the nation in the number of illegal aliens in the United States.***
On a positive note, California has the 46th best public education system in the United States.****
California's infrastructure is falling apart and there is no money for repairs or improvements.
Metropolitan areas are overcrowded which make highway travel nearly unbearable at times.

Back to my original question, why would anyone consider moving to California at this time in history?






* http://www.bls.gov/web/laus/laumstrk.htm

** http://www.statemaster.com/graph/eco_wel_cas_tot_rec-economy-welfare-caseloads-total-recipients

*** http://www.statemaster.com/graph/peo_est_num_of_ill_imm-people-estimated-number-illegal-immigrants

**** http://www.statemaster.com/graph/edu_bes_edu_ind-education-best-educated-index

SxB
08-29-2010, 6:56 AM
Hahaha. The only rights they'll fight for in SF is gay rights and vegan rights ( not that there's anything wrong with that ). But you can pretty much say good bye to ccw. However, if you were to bring your 1911 and shotgun that should be fine. Unless of course your pistol is on the ca doj ban list. Even then I think your ok when your bringing it in from out of state.
Just remember when you get to ca put the guns in the trunk and store the ammo in a locked container in some other area of the car.
Oh, I herd there are some nice apartments in the Castro district of SF you should check into that.

Keoni
08-29-2010, 8:07 AM
2A rights aside, why would anyone consider moving to California at this time in history?

The good days of California are way behind us.
The government is in shambles and teetering on the verge of bankruptcy.
Our elected leadership is a joke, and this November we get to choose a new governor between loser #1 and an old retread politician, loser #2.
California has the third highest unemployment rate in the country at 12.3%.*
California is the national leader in welfare cases.**
California leads the nation in the number of illegal aliens in the United States.***
On a positive note, California has the 46th best public education system in the United States.****
California's infrastructure is falling apart and there is no money for repairs or improvements.
Metropolitan areas are overcrowded which make highway travel nearly unbearable at times.

Back to my original question, why would anyone consider moving to California at this time in history?






* http://www.bls.gov/web/laus/laumstrk.htm

** http://www.statemaster.com/graph/eco_wel_cas_tot_rec-economy-welfare-caseloads-total-recipients

*** http://www.statemaster.com/graph/peo_est_num_of_ill_imm-people-estimated-number-illegal-immigrants

**** http://www.statemaster.com/graph/edu_bes_edu_ind-education-best-educated-index

:iagree:

Besides the great points made above, I would make the move if the job is worth it.

ZX-10R
08-29-2010, 8:17 AM
SF is as liberal and anti gun as you get. Clowns really and the worse part is I spent my college years there and got into guns through a girl who lived there. CA is silly anti guns. Check the guns you have through the flow chart and if your family is still going to be in KS then leave you CA illegal back there. I lived in WA while my family was in NorCal...If it was the other way around, my guns would be up there but now I am down here still amazed at some of the laws.

How about a job in TX?

fabguy
08-29-2010, 8:36 AM
DON'T DO IT, stay where it is still sane, and you have rights. lol

GrizzlyGuy
08-29-2010, 8:45 AM
Leave your large-capacity magazines (http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/index.php/Faq#Magazine_Questions) behind (unless you ever possessed them in CA prior to 1/1/2000), or completely disassemble them and bring them in as repair parts (http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/index.php/Faq#Is_it_illegal_to_possess_parts_for_large_capac ity_magazines.3F). Don't reassemble them when you get here.

The CA handgun roster doesn't apply (http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/index.php/The_Safe_Handgun_List#Other_exempt_transactions_an d_conditions), but you'll need to register all of your handguns after you get here. More info: Moving to California with Firearms (http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/index.php/Moving_to_California_with_firearms)

Also here: I am moving to California. What CAN'T I bring with me? (http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/index.php/Faq#I_am_moving_to_California._What_CAN.27T_I_brin g_with_me.3F)

ZX-10R
08-29-2010, 9:01 AM
DON'T DO IT, stay where it is still sane, and you have rights. lol

LOL Amen bro.

bsg
08-29-2010, 9:35 AM
well... welcome to the forum. :eek: :)

Full Clip
08-29-2010, 9:54 AM
California:


http://media.steampowered.com/steamcommunity/public/images/avatars/16/16d16d58abb6ca9c286d2147034a9e7f9a2b3bb5_full.jpg

Big Jake
08-29-2010, 11:28 AM
2A rights aside, why would anyone consider moving to California at this time in history?

The good days of California are way behind us.
The government is in shambles and teetering on the verge of bankruptcy.
Our elected leadership is a joke, and this November we get to choose a new governor between loser #1 and an old retread politician, loser #2.
California has the third highest unemployment rate in the country at 12.3%.*
California is the national leader in welfare cases.**
California leads the nation in the number of illegal aliens in the United States.***
On a positive note, California has the 46th best public education system in the United States.****California's infrastructure is falling apart and there is no money for repairs or improvements.
Metropolitan areas are overcrowded which make highway travel nearly unbearable at times.

Back to my original question, why would anyone consider moving to California at this time in history?






* http://www.bls.gov/web/laus/laumstrk.htm

** http://www.statemaster.com/graph/eco_wel_cas_tot_rec-economy-welfare-caseloads-total-recipients

*** http://www.statemaster.com/graph/peo_est_num_of_ill_imm-people-estimated-number-illegal-immigrants

**** http://www.statemaster.com/graph/edu_bes_edu_ind-education-best-educated-index

From my not so humble perspective it is dead last and I am a public school teacher! :(

Dryden
08-29-2010, 2:14 PM
Well thanks for the warm welcome :) Maybe I should offer to let you guys live in my backyard in KS? The winter is cold but at least the summer is hot and humid. Who needs television when you have the deafening roar of the cicada (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cicada) to listen to.

Seriously though, thanks for the introduction and information. I honestly wouldn't even consider a move to CA if it weren't for the fact that this job is everything I've been looking for. I hate the thought of leaving the reasonable gun laws and great hunting I have in the midwest (even if I am a New Yorker by birth).

-Dryden

rromeo
08-29-2010, 2:41 PM
As I said, California has a some problems, but the gun laws are not the worst. Try moving back to New York with your guns. Fat chance.
The good thing about California is that if your rifle is named on the roster, buy a new stripped lower, and rebuild, add a BB and get rid of your >10 round magazines. It's a hassle, but you can still have all of your evil features.

The real problems are that California is still going down the toilet.

jigenax
08-29-2010, 3:05 PM
My suggestion is to work as long as possible, send most of your net income after expenses back to KS and have your BOB ready. Having your 1911 and shotgun while leaving the rest in KS is a good idea. Just be ready to bug out when your company folds. California is getting worse so enjoy the job while you can.

bsg
08-29-2010, 10:18 PM
Well thanks for the warm welcome :) Maybe I should offer to let you guys live in my backyard in KS? The winter is cold but at least the summer is hot and humid. Who needs television when you have the deafening roar of the cicada (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cicada) to listen to.

Seriously though, thanks for the introduction and information. I honestly wouldn't even consider a move to CA if it weren't for the fact that this job is everything I've been looking for. I hate the thought of leaving the reasonable gun laws and great hunting I have in the midwest (even if I am a New Yorker by birth).

-Dryden


one wonderful feature of southern california is... you are close to the ocean, mountains and desert; sort of a threefer.

the problem is... driving southern california freeways to get there.... :)

glockwise2000
08-29-2010, 10:32 PM
2A rights aside, why would anyone consider moving to California at this time in history?

The good days of California are way behind us.
The government is in shambles and teetering on the verge of bankruptcy.
Our elected leadership is a joke, and this November we get to choose a new governor between loser #1 and an old retread politician, loser #2.
California has the third highest unemployment rate in the country at 12.3%.*
California is the national leader in welfare cases.**
California leads the nation in the number of illegal aliens in the United States.***
On a positive note, California has the 46th best public education system in the United States.****
California's infrastructure is falling apart and there is no money for repairs or improvements.
Metropolitan areas are overcrowded which make highway travel nearly unbearable at times.

Back to my original question, why would anyone consider moving to California at this time in history?






* http://www.bls.gov/web/laus/laumstrk.htm

** http://www.statemaster.com/graph/eco_wel_cas_tot_rec-economy-welfare-caseloads-total-recipients

*** http://www.statemaster.com/graph/peo_est_num_of_ill_imm-people-estimated-number-illegal-immigrants

**** http://www.statemaster.com/graph/edu_bes_edu_ind-education-best-educated-index

Geez. Just lighten up Vic.

But seriously, VF is not kidding around.

Why would you want to move again?

Mendo223
08-29-2010, 10:42 PM
san francisco is cool man, but its only fun if you dont live there.

i highly reccomend staying where you are. california is over crowded and full of problems. this state is going to hell quick, crime is rampant in almost every part of CA right now. tons and tons of anchor and welfare baby gangster thugs. SF is full of illegal immigrant gangbangers, drug addicts, homeless, anti gun liberals, and weird people of all walks of life. yesterday i was at Delores Park and saw a guy walking around with a skullcane and a bag of marijuana brownies. theres tons of young punk gangbangers too, and they do pack guns.

hunting? shooting? forget it. you have to drive hours outside of the bay to enjoy the outdoor life.

but if you must move to SF< please contact me first. i know all the neighborhoods and best value versus crime, etc. i recomend looking at the richmond/sunset districts. its less hectic and crazy, less shootings/gangs/crime in general. your nextdoor neighbor might be growing pot though lol.