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dinnerplate
08-15-2010, 11:47 PM
i'm looking to get a scope for my ar-15 and a cheapo longer range rifle in the future. possibly the mosin nagant. i'm completely new to long range shooting, but want to be able to use this for a while until i'm ready for a good one. i'll be shooting mainly at angeles, so it's 100 yards and 600 yards.

a lot of people recommended redfield and bushnell. are there any that are $150 or less that are still quality? so far, i'm considering:

Nikon Prostaff Rifle Scope 4-12x 40mm Mil-Dot Reticle Matte
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productnumber=149054

BSA Tactical Mil-Dot Rifle Scope 30mm Tube 6-24x 44mm Side Focus Glass Etched Mil-Dot Reticle Matte
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productnumber=962234

freonr22
08-15-2010, 11:49 PM
the Nikon will be 5xmuch nicer scope than Bsa

FMJBT
08-16-2010, 8:08 PM
Check out the FM Optics 4-14x44 FFP Mil Dot for $149.95:
http://www.jgsales.com/product_info.php/m/famous-maker/p/4-14x44-mildot-tactical-scope-by-famous-maker-/manufacturers_id/19/products_id/3642?SID

For the money, this is hands down the best scope in it's price range for long range shooting. The etched glass FFP Mil Dot reticle remains calibrated at all magnification levels, and the scope has over 75 MOA of internal travel for elevation and windage. That should be enough to dial in most calibers out to around 800 to 1000 yards. I have 5 of these scopes now on various rifles from .22 LR up to .300 Win Mag and have nothing but positive things to say about them. They hold zero and track perfectly. Eye relief is over 4" even at 14X, with a decent exit pupil so they dont get tunnel vision at max magnification. Glass quality is decent, better than the Bushnell 3200 series but maybe not quite as clear as the 4200's. Resolution is good enough to make out 10" tall spray painted letters at 1000 yards.

The only cons for these scopes are:

1)They are heavy at 27 ounces. On hard hitting rifles a good mount will be needed to keep them from shifting around.

2)They don't like to wear honeycomb sun shades. I used a Killflash ARD on mine and the optical quality took a serious nosedive.

3)The included flip up covers are garbage. Get the Butler Creek covers and it's a non issue (#18 Eye, #32 Obj)

I was concerned that the customer service from FM Optics would be an issue, but I'm actually pretty impressed with that even. One of the scopes I received had a slightly canted reticle. I contacted the importer of the scopes (DKG Trading) about the issue. They had me send in the scope for a replacement at no cost, and with no questions asked. 2 weeks later I had a new scope with centered reticle.