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Ripper
08-05-2010, 1:14 PM
Does any one here own a DSARMS SA58 PARA with a 18in barrel? What is its length folded? There web site has 2 different lengths for the 18in version. They have 30.25 in for the 18in congo folded and 28.25 for the orginal series Para. Which one is right? Here in our great state of CA it has to be 30in or longer when folded to be Legal any one have one to measure? Thanks Ripper

-hanko
08-05-2010, 2:08 PM
Does any one here own a DSARMS SA58 PARA with a 18in barrel? What is its length folded? There web site has 2 different lengths for the 18in version. They have 30.25 in for the 18in congo folded and 28.25 for the orginal series Para. Which one is right? Here in our great state of CA it has to be 30in or longer when folded to be Legal any one have one to measure? Thanks Ripper
Ripper, good question.

Real Para's were made with 20" and 17-3/8" barrels. Mine is a real Imbel kit on an real Imbel receiver with a real Imbel 17-3/8" barrel. I've posted the folded/unfolded lengths here a few times, but with the flash hider unscrewed she measures 29" folded and 38-5/8" unfolded.

DSA may not be using a barrel of the same length as a real Para, and/or the gun has a fh installed. When I need a fh I screw on a Venezuelan version and overall length increases by 1-3/8". A Belgian fh will be longer, but I wanted to keep to the South American roots of the gun.:)

Not sure where DSA gets the 28.25" number, but Dave may have run out of real Para stocks and may be using one of his design or a Falcon Arms version or who-knows-what.:confused:

hth

-hanko

adamsreeftank
08-05-2010, 2:16 PM
I think there is some confusion on the DSA website between guns with 16 and 18 inch barrels. Some of the pictures are not consistent.

I am pretty certain that a folder with an 18 inch barrel is over 30 inches folded with the flash hider on. I think a folder with a 16 inch barrel would come up short.

-hanko
08-05-2010, 2:23 PM
I am pretty certain that a folder with an 18 inch barrel is over 30 inches folded with the flash hider on. I think a folder with a 16 inch barrel would come up short.
It would have to...simple math. IF they measure the barrel from the front of the bolt face to the end of the muzzle, OAL folded would have to be 27-5/8" with a 16" barrel...should not be too hard to find a fh that would get it to 30", but it might be not so super authentic and/or butt-ugly.

The 18" barrel would hit the 30" mark with only 3/8" of muzzle device or more.

OP might post his question on the FAL files for more info.

-hanko

thedrickel
08-05-2010, 3:17 PM
18" with a combo device will get you to 30", almost right on the nose. I keep mine at 18.5" just to be safe.