View Full Version : Zeiss or Leupold for 6-20x scope for Rem700

08-04-2010, 10:44 PM
What you think..i'm leaning toward Zeiss as many say the Conquest is equal to or better than a comparable power Mark IV Leupold. What do you think?

Black Majik
08-04-2010, 11:35 PM
Go Leupold. More elevation.

08-05-2010, 8:08 AM
Depends on how far you wan to shoot. If you are going to push it and need elavation don't get either. Save some more and try and find a used nightforce wait for a vortex pst or maybe an ior. If you are going to only shoot to a few hundred yards then vet a conquest. We really need more information on the type of shooting you are going to do and what models of scopes you are looking at.

08-05-2010, 3:02 PM
The scopes i'm looking at are 6-20x-50mm scopes. I figure for 300-800 yards (probably realistically more like 600 yds since I shoot mostly @ angeles.

08-05-2010, 3:12 PM
That's a lot of magnification for a .308WIN.

08-05-2010, 6:58 PM
Well... later in life it may move to a laser if i get into that... but for now I jus have a 5R that needs some decent glass.

08-05-2010, 9:21 PM
I have a 6.5-20x50 #43 reticle Conquest on a 12FVSS in 223, a TON of glass for the $$. Cameralandny puts out demos for a HUGE discount. With a straight rail at 200 yards with 75 gr JLK VLD's I have ~12 MOA left, not enough for 1K but I like to kill things with it.

A 20 MOA rail and I'm good to go with the factory 26" barrel as far as a 223 will take me on this rifle. I had a Rem 700 with a weird receiver that pointed the bbl down, took a LOT of up to get on paper at 100 yards, each rifle is different.

The Conquest 1" tube is really hampered in erector movement compared to a 35mm or bigger tube, but I've seen Mueller 30mm with the same limited 45-50 MOA. A bigger tube doesn't always mean more MOA.

I also wouldn't put that much magnification on a 308. I won't buy another Leupold anything, for the $$ there are lots of better choices. A lower power Zeiss Conquest or a 6500 series Bushnell Elite might be good to look at. The Elite 4200 6-24x40 I swapped out for that Conquest has bright clear glass, but the eyebox is smaller at higher magnification and the forward AO sucks compared to the Conquest SF.

Shop around!

Brian in CA

08-05-2010, 10:38 PM
why not put that much magnification on 308..it goes alot farther accurately than 223... i have a 4-14x but for 600 yds more mag seems nice...what am i missing?

08-06-2010, 12:59 PM
any thoughts? Basically I can get the conquest for 800 and the leupold for about 1000$ (discounted price)

08-09-2010, 11:30 PM
? watcha think

08-10-2010, 6:30 AM
get the one you want!
I have a Zeiss conquest on a 700 in 223 and love the thing
only plan on taking it out to 200y
not much elevation but the glass is great
you can always compensate with an elevated base

08-10-2010, 10:48 AM
I prefer the Mark 4 M1 with the TMR RET. I have used the Zeiss 4.5-14x44mm with the rapid Z 1000 had it worked great for the 308.

If anyone would like a USED Zeiss Conquest 4.5-14x44mm with the Rapid Z 1000 RET. let me know and I will get you a price.

We also sell new Zeiss Conquest but they are not on the website yet and we sell Leupold also. If we can be of any help feel free to ask.

Mike @ CST

08-13-2010, 2:47 PM
I've got the Zeiss 6.5-20X50 with the Rapid Z-800...this scope is just like my Zeiss binoculars....incredibly clear and crisp! Forget the Leupold...it's not in the same class! However, you're the one that is going to have to pay for it and use it so get whichever one you prefer. You've received more than enough input already.

08-14-2010, 1:07 AM
I just picked up a 6.5-20x50 as well with the rapid z varmint reticle. Compared to my dad's leupold vxl, the zeiss is definitely a lot clearer.

applevalleyjoe- did you have your reticle retro fitted to get the 800 reticle?

08-14-2010, 9:11 AM
i've never shot a zeiss, but i have owned a few leupolds. i do know that leupolds give you ample elevation although you should consider a 20MOA base no matter what- to make sure you have enough to shoot longer ranges. i love leupold scopes and thought they were the best thing since sliced bread....... until i got my first NightForce...