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pieeater
08-03-2010, 3:41 PM
One of my hunting buddys is on a mariuana eradication team. They smoked some guy a couple weeks ago, first time they have killed any growers. My other buddy was up at his ranch last week scouting for deer when a helicopter landed on his airstrip. He went and talked to the guy and knew him from when they pulled some gardens off his place before. Apparently he was just staging there for a few cause a Mendo Deputy had just killed a grower nearby. Heard of another grower shot and killed off Mines rd in Santa Clara. lol All this was still in July. If LE cleans up a couple more of these guys before harvest its gonna be a record year. lol

theseacow
08-03-2010, 4:55 PM
save any confiscated goods for me?

lewdogg21
08-03-2010, 5:06 PM
damn pie. Maybe I need to carry my AR with hi-caps during bow season...

safewaysecurity
08-03-2010, 5:12 PM
Well looks like the police are keepin some of it for themselves. http://www.billingsgazette.com/news/state-and-regional/montana/article_ebd1d4d6-9d1d-11df-bed6-001cc4c002e0.html

pieeater
08-03-2010, 5:12 PM
They just bury the stuff. The stuff they get on the ranches they will bury it right on the ranch. A lot of the other is just buried at land fills. Damn tempting I could fund a couple safaris with that much dough!!


save any confiscated goods for me?

lewdogg21
08-03-2010, 5:14 PM
I saw a patch once across the garcia river from me. I thought it was an xmas tree farm till the Sheriff showed up in their chopper and began cutting it.

pieeater
08-03-2010, 5:18 PM
I saw a patch once across the garcia river from me. I thought it was an xmas tree farm till the Sheriff showed up in their chopper and began cutting it.

I bet it looked like a big patch of elk hunts???

chansen49
08-03-2010, 6:07 PM
One of my hunting buddys is on a mariuana eradication team. They smoked some guy a couple weeks ago, first time they have killed any growers. My other buddy was up at his ranch last week scouting for deer when a helicopter landed on his airstrip. He went and talked to the guy and knew him from when they pulled some gardens off his place before. Apparently he was just staging there for a few cause a Mendo Deputy had just killed a grower nearby. Heard of another grower shot and killed off Mines rd in Santa Clara. lol All this was still in July. If LE cleans up a couple more of these guys before harvest its gonna be a record year. lol


Killing folks in the name of pot.. Now thats the beginning of the end.

pieeater
08-03-2010, 6:14 PM
Why not? These mexican drug cartel types sneak onto hardworking peoples propertys set up booby traps poach game and grow drugs. F' em


Killing folks in the name of pot.. Now thats the beginning of the end.

Shoot-it
08-03-2010, 6:23 PM
MJ was found some in our corn field next to a county road sheriff came out and removed it.The irrigater was scared someone would come for him for reporting it.

jigenax
08-03-2010, 6:33 PM
Why not? These mexican drug cartel types sneak onto hardworking peoples propertys set up booby traps poach game and grow drugs. F' em

Hell, local growers have gone lethal since the 80s. I remember reading news articles in the late 80s about beheadings, sniper shoot outs and bobby trapped MJ plants with stolen C4. DEA doesn't call Mendocino, Trinity & Humboldt counties the "Emerald Triangle" for nothing. Some of those growers even used Viet Cong trail marker techniques in the forests. When liberal reporters got wind of it, they immediately pinned it on Vietnam vets, even though it was Vietnam vets working in the USFS were the ones to discover them.

To me, it doesn't matter if it's local Bubba or a Mex cartel, they're all the same and need to be neutralized.

Twinsen
08-03-2010, 7:26 PM
Charge! Pink mist!

Big Jake
08-03-2010, 7:53 PM
save any confiscated goods for me?

Be like Bill Clinton and rememmber not to inhale! :eek:

Geo
08-03-2010, 8:01 PM
I stumbled on a huge garden (at least 20,000 plants) while bowhunting in the Ventana Wilderness near Montery last weekend. Screw those illegals mexicans that pollute our forests... I GPS's the garden and went right to the sheriff to report it.

lewdogg21
08-03-2010, 8:06 PM
I bet it looked like a big patch of elk hunts???

lol yeah man. Like the kind of season that starts in August and you hunt all fall/winter into January. Damn things were like 6' high. My father and I watched them cut it all and haul it off. Like 2 hours later a pickup came back, couple guys got out and starting yelling "it's ok! come back!" as the farmers must have fled when they saw the chopper.

StraightShooter
08-03-2010, 8:10 PM
My wifes family owns an avocado grove next to an eco reserve and they are constantly getting their irrigation lines cut or tapped into by these growers. It got to the point where they were tapping into lines not even 300 feet away from their house and running lines for hundreds of yards back into the bushes. They got so sick of it I and my father in law armed ourselves and followed the lines and found 5 different grow spots. Luckily we didnt run into anyone. Unfortunately the sheriff wont do jack unless you say you have actually laid eyes on they stuff. Sure enough, the next day a helicopter was hauling it out.

Hunt
08-03-2010, 9:37 PM
Killing folks in the name of pot.. Now thats the beginning of the end.

killing people, destroying families, caging people, 24 thousand dead in Mexico this year all to keep the powers that be rolling in high profit drug money. I see these prosecutors as drug dealers by proxy and the cops as enforcers--in the end after the asset forfieture laws are used all that confiscated drug money goes directly to the cops and prosecutors agencies. hmmm see a pattern here.
The ONLY reason they are cosnsidering decriminilization is because the "war on drugs" is such an obvious failure they can't lie and make any excuses to keep the profits and still look good. I think it's great there are cops like Barry Cooper that are flipping now.

Hunt
08-03-2010, 9:41 PM
I stumbled on a huge garden (at least 20,000 plants) while bowhunting in the Ventana Wilderness near Montery last weekend. Screw those illegals mexicans that pollute our forests... I GPS's the garden and went right to the sheriff to report it.

they put all kinds of toxic **** in our water system downstream--war on drugs is soooo destructive. Oh well maybe if we vote things will change.

theseacow
08-03-2010, 9:45 PM
killing people, destroying families, caging people, 24 thousand dead in Mexico this year all to keep the powers that be rolling in high profit drug money. I see these prosecutors as drug dealers by proxy and the cops as enforcers--in the end after the asset forfieture laws are used all that confiscated drug money goes directly to the cops and prosecutors agencies. hmmm see a pattern here.
The ONLY reason they are cosnsidering decriminilization is because the "war on drugs" is such an obvious failure they can't lie and make any excuses to keep the profits and still look good. I think it's great there are cops like Barry Cooper that are flipping now.

I dont think there will be too many people who disagree with you here. We are supposed to support freedom afterall. I think the OP was more or less commenting about the fact that since pot is illegal, we end up with morons who will break the law further in order to grow it. They trespass on your place, damage your property, and can even do far worse. This is a big year for the growers so you gotta be careful.

...and yes of course, it should be legalized.

Marlin Hunter
08-03-2010, 10:33 PM
One of my hunting buddys is on a mariuana eradication team. They smoked some guy a couple weeks ago, first time they have killed any growers. My other buddy was up at his ranch last week scouting for deer when a helicopter landed on his airstrip. He went and talked to the guy and knew him from when they pulled some gardens off his place before. Apparently he was just staging there for a few cause a Mendo Deputy had just killed a grower nearby. Heard of another grower shot and killed off Mines rd in Santa Clara. lol All this was still in July. If LE cleans up a couple more of these guys before harvest its gonna be a record year. lol


California was thinking about legalizing the drug, so why are they going after growers? Competition? I know it is still against federal law.

I would be more worried about Meth labs in the wilderness. Even abandoned labs are hazardous to your health.

cmth
08-03-2010, 11:34 PM
Prohibition gave us Al Capone (and the NFA '34, how 'bout that?), and the only cure for him and his ilk was the repeal. It was a failed experiment that was detrimental to the nation and to society, and its effects are still felt today. The Drug War is an equally abysmal failure for society, but has proven to be very lucrative for the state. The only reason the war is still on is because the government does not want to lose the great source of power and revenue that it brings them. Legalize it, and you will remove any motive of profit for the criminal element -- the cartels, and the state.

badmonkey
08-04-2010, 8:13 AM
Prohibition gave us Al Capone (and the NFA '34, how 'bout that?), and the only cure for him and his ilk was the repeal. It was a failed experiment that was detrimental to the nation and to society, and its effects are still felt today. The Drug War is an equally abysmal failure for society, but has proven to be very lucrative for the state. The only reason the war is still on is because the government does not want to lose the great source of power and revenue that it brings them. Legalize it, and you will remove any motive of profit for the criminal element -- the cartels, and the state.

I totally agree. How many millions do we spend every year on the supposed war? And what do we get in return?

SexPistol
08-04-2010, 9:23 AM
I don't have a problem with tree but I do have a problem with all the illegals coming into our park systems and peoples land to grow it.

77bawls
08-04-2010, 3:01 PM
California was thinking about legalizing the drug, so why are they going after growers? Competition? I know it is still against federal law.

I would be more worried about Meth labs in the wilderness. Even abandoned labs are hazardous to your health.

They are going after them right now because it's still illegal. The same thing was happening with the rum runners back in the day. The MJ prohibition started the same was as the assault weapon tax stamp. They said that you could buy it with a tax stamp but the government would never make tax stamps or in very limited quantity.

The prohibition will end just give it time. Anyone can make alcohol or grow pot and it's even easier to grow pot. It's a weed and even grows on the sides of highways in the midwest.

pieeater
08-04-2010, 3:19 PM
Each household can have up to 99 plants in Mendocino county. Christ if you got 2lbs of bud off each plant that would give you over a pound a day to smoke. I guess thats not enough. These douchebags that were killed were all growing thousands of plants on land that they didnt own. They are freakin criminals plain and simple if pot was legal these turds would be producing kiddie porn or robbing banks or anything for a quickbuck but work. Seriously i could care a less if someone wants to smoke pot.If you want to make yourself a retard go ahead.


California was thinking about legalizing the drug, so why are they going after growers? Competition? I know it is still against federal law.

I would be more worried about Meth labs in the wilderness. Even abandoned labs are hazardous to your health.

pieeater
08-04-2010, 3:24 PM
in the end after the asset forfieture laws are used all that confiscated drug money goes directly to the cops and prosecutors agencies. hmmm see a pattern here.


They destroy the pot. Its being grown on public land or land that doesnt belong to the grower. What property or money do they seize ???

pieeater
08-04-2010, 3:26 PM
You a pot smoker Faulker???

ADAM
08-04-2010, 4:31 PM
i say bomb the sights :36:

spectr17
08-04-2010, 8:38 PM
There was an article I think in the LA Times about LA or San Bernardino County, can't remember which one, about them replacing the Emerald Triangle for top pot growing in CA. They just snagged a big grow here next to Heap's Peak, right where the USFS air attack helipad is.

Abesnake
08-05-2010, 12:21 AM
Prohibition gave us Al Capone (and the NFA '34, how 'bout that?), and the only cure for him and his ilk was the repeal. It was a failed experiment that was detrimental to the nation and to society, and its effects are still felt today. The Drug War is an equally abysmal failure for society, but has proven to be very lucrative for the state. The only reason the war is still on is because the government does not want to lose the great source of power and revenue that it brings them. Legalize it, and you will remove any motive of profit for the criminal element -- the cartels, and the state.

I totally disagree that legalizing pot will "remove any motive of profit for the criminal element." It just takes the heat off the Cartels and they get richer. Most people won't grow it at home for very long, because of space needed, the cost, time it takes and inconsistent potency. The Cartels have it down and they'll just laugh at the "stupid gringos". Legalizing drugs is not the answer; and I don't know what is. It might be enlightening, though, to read about what happened during the heroin wars in China in the 1800's to see what the eventual outcome could be here, today. Steve McQueen made a movie about how the British were making a fortune selling heroin to China while thousands died, and it started a war. Don't know the name of it. The British didn't want to give up their profit. My point is that legalizing all drugs will be the next big push. It won't end with pot. So what will we gain?

theseacow
08-05-2010, 7:33 AM
I totally disagree that legalizing pot will "remove any motive of profit for the criminal element." It just takes the heat off the Cartels and they get richer. Most people won't grow it at home for very long, because of space needed, the cost, time it takes and inconsistent potency. The Cartels have it down and they'll just laugh at the "stupid gringos". Legalizing drugs is not the answer; and I don't know what is. It might be enlightening, though, to read about what happened during the heroin wars in China in the 1800's to see what the eventual outcome could be here, today. Steve McQueen made a movie about how the British were making a fortune selling heroin to China while thousands died, and it started a war. Don't know the name of it. The British didn't want to give up their profit. My point is that legalizing all drugs will be the next big push. It won't end with pot. So what will we gain?

your right. we should ban alchohol then too. Also, guns, gambling, and certain loud and smelly auto parts. They are legal now but its not making the underground market for these things go away.

stop trying to micromanage peoples freedom, and let them choose for themselves to succeed or fail. They aren't hurting others. The fact that pot is harmless is irrelevant to the argument of basic freedom.

Matt@EntrepriseArms
08-05-2010, 8:46 AM
Prohibition gave us Al Capone (and the NFA '34, how 'bout that?), and the only cure for him and his ilk was the repeal. It was a failed experiment that was detrimental to the nation and to society, and its effects are still felt today. The Drug War is an equally abysmal failure for society, but has proven to be very lucrative for the state. The only reason the war is still on is because the government does not want to lose the great source of power and revenue that it brings them. Legalize it, and you will remove any motive of profit for the criminal element -- the cartels, and the state.

Repealing the 21st ammendment did not "cure Capone and his ilk." In fact, the mafia survived and still exists to this very day. Why? They simply diversified their criminal enterprises.

It is foolish for anyone to think that by legalizing pot that the "Mexican cartels" or the illegal growers will go away. They will continue to grow and import it because they will have a broader and increased customer base, and they can sell it cheaper than the legal stuff. Growers will continue to grow it for the same reasons.

Also, if profits from the sales of pot declines for the drug cartels, they will simply diversify their criminal enterprises just like the Italian mafia did. They will not go away, and they will not stop preying on Americans foolish enough to willingly become their victims by using their product.

pieeater
08-05-2010, 3:32 PM
They can grow all they want down there your socal weed is still going to suck!! lol Norcal is the Napa Valley of pot!!!


There was an article I think in the LA Times about LA or San Bernardino County, can't remember which one, about them replacing the Emerald Triangle for top pot growing in CA. They just snagged a big grow here next to Heap's Peak, right where the USFS air attack helipad is.

chansen49
08-05-2010, 7:42 PM
They can grow all they want down there your socal weed is still going to suck!! lol Norcal is the Napa Valley of pot!!!

Now thats funny..

Abesnake
08-05-2010, 8:21 PM
your right. we should ban alchohol then too. Also, guns, gambling, and certain loud and smelly auto parts. They are legal now but its not making the underground market for these things go away.

stop trying to micromanage peoples freedom, and let them choose for themselves to succeed or fail. They aren't hurting others. The fact that pot is harmless is irrelevant to the argument of basic freedom.


I have no interest in micromanagement of peoples freedom. If anything I prefer people make their own decisions and be responsible. However, our culture has degenerated to the point where people almost think they can do whatever they want with no consequence. Therefore we get very confusing thinking patterns like yours which mixes irreconcilable elements. How can you equate guns, gambling and auto parts? You must have been smoking when you wrote that!

I don't think that taking another drug off the list of mind altering substances is an advancement of society. FREEDOM IS NOT LICENSE!

theseacow
08-05-2010, 9:56 PM
I have no interest in micromanagement of peoples freedom. If anything I prefer people make their own decisions and be responsible. However, our culture has degenerated to the point where people almost think they can do whatever they want with no consequence. Therefore we get very confusing thinking patterns like yours which mixes irreconcilable elements. How can you equate guns, gambling and auto parts? You must have been smoking when you wrote that!

I don't think that taking another drug off the list of mind altering substances is an advancement of society. FREEDOM IS NOT LICENSE!

I think you missed my analogy. I can name MANY things besides guns, auto-parts, and gambling all of which have a black market associated with them that seem absolutely ridiculous when you think about them. They are fundamentally the same when it comes to simple freedoms. These are just quick examples.

Pot absolutely should be taken off the list of illegal substances. If you know anything about history, then you know prohibition was a complete failure, aside from being diametrically opposed to the whole concept of liberty, personal responsibility, and freedom. You know, the fundamental reasons on why this country was setup to begin with. If someone chooses to smoke pot, they should be able to. They aren't interfering with your life, liberty, or pursuit of happiness so it shouldn't be your problem. If you don't support that way of thinking, well sorry, but logic says your against freedom to let others live their own life the way they choose to. You claim to not want to micro-manage peoples freedoms, but then support the senseless banning of a plant that was made illegal based off of false pretenses (like most BS laws). Just because you choose to use or not use pot, doesn't mean everyone else has to choose the same way. Take a stand for freedom and support other peoples freedom of choice, and maybe winning your gun rights back won't be so hard.

BTW, on a personal note, I have some friends that smoke and some that don't. I bet you wouldn't believe that the far more successful ones are the ones that smoke. Logically I see why... They lead stressful lives, and on occasion they smoke, relax and recharge. Just like drinking a beer. Or should that be banned again too?

Abesnake
08-05-2010, 10:28 PM
I think you missed my analogy. I can name MANY things besides guns, auto-parts, and gambling all of which have a black market associated with them that seem absolutely ridiculous when you think about them. They are fundamentally the same when it comes to simple freedoms. These are just quick examples.

Pot absolutely should be taken off the list of illegal substances. If you know anything about history, then you know prohibition was a complete failure, aside from being diametrically opposed to the whole concept of liberty, personal responsibility, and freedom. You know, the fundamental reasons on why this country was setup to begin with. If someone chooses to smoke pot, they should be able to. They aren't interfering with your life, liberty, or pursuit of happiness so it shouldn't be your problem. If you don't support that way of thinking, well sorry, but logic says your against freedom to let others live their own life the way they choose to. You claim to not want to micro-manage peoples freedoms, but then support the senseless banning of a plant that was made illegal based off of false pretenses (like most BS laws). Just because you choose to use or not use pot, doesn't mean everyone else has to choose the same way. Take a stand for freedom and support other peoples freedom of choice, and maybe winning your gun rights back won't be so hard.

BTW, on a personal note, I have some friends that smoke and some that don't. I bet you wouldn't believe that the far more successful ones are the ones that smoke. Logically I see why... They lead stressful lives, and on occasion they smoke, relax and recharge. Just like drinking a beer. Or should that be banned again too?

You think to much! Clean up and pay attention. I don't buy your convoluted logic. However, I said I have no problem with people's freedom, but I think people today have little forethought in making life choices. K? BTW it was never the Founding Father's intention for everyone to be exercising "Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness" with wild abandon, and never maintain the cohesiveness of the country in general. Freedom for them had limits at the edge of societal breakdown. Unfortunately, that phrase is greatly misunderstood these days.

theseacow
08-06-2010, 7:48 AM
You think to much! Clean up and pay attention. I don't buy your convoluted logic. However, I said I have no problem with people's freedom, but I think people today have little forethought in making life choices. K? BTW it was never the Founding Father's intention for everyone to be exercising "Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness" with wild abandon, and never maintain the cohesiveness of the country in general. Freedom for them had limits at the edge of societal breakdown. Unfortunately, that phrase is greatly misunderstood these days.

People have little forethought in making life choices? CORRECT!. That doesn't give you the right to make life choices for them. Sorry, but your argument holds no water. Pot has nothing to do with the breakdown of society. Pretending it does is both dangerous, and just plain ignorant.

Abesnake
08-06-2010, 6:09 PM
People have little forethought in making life choices? CORRECT!. That doesn't give you the right to make life choices for them. Sorry, but your argument holds no water. Pot has nothing to do with the breakdown of society. Pretending it does is both dangerous, and just plain ignorant.


You're still confused. I never said that. Clean up and read my comments again.

lewdogg21
08-06-2010, 6:31 PM
myeh boys, tis the hunting forum. Instead of arguing over this let's argue who's the best duck hunter in here. I nominate myself and PCH.:p

Big Jake
08-06-2010, 6:35 PM
myeh boys, tis the hunting forum. Instead of arguing over this let's argue who's the best duck hunter in here. I nominate myself and PCH.:p

PCH is the king of all things yote! :43:

Abesnake
08-07-2010, 5:54 AM
myeh boys, tis the hunting forum. Instead of arguing over this let's argue who's the best duck hunter in here. I nominate myself and PCH.:p


All Hail! all Hail! :eek: Tis a sain man who comes forth amongst us. Never hunted duck and would love to learn. Tell us all about it naive. LOL Thanks lew :D

pieeater
08-07-2010, 6:02 AM
LoL Hunting forum? More of a jack rabbit and coyote forum.


myeh boys, tis the hunting forum. .:p

pieeater
08-07-2010, 6:04 AM
You guys should debate this over a bowl or a couple bong rips.

Abesnake
08-07-2010, 8:09 AM
You guys should debate this over a bowl or a couple bong rips.

LOL never use the stuff. LOL

cmth
08-07-2010, 9:39 AM
I have no problem with the Mexican cartels selling pot in United States or anywhere else. If their pot is higher quality or a better value than the locally produced pot, then people will buy it. The free market will decide who is the better pot producer. The problem that I have is the violence that has been created by the drug war. In a true free market economy without violence or coercion, there would be no reason for the Mexican cartels to even arm themselves. Nobody would be shooting at them, therefore they need not shoot back at anyone. I would welcome them "legitimizing" their business, and putting down their arms, which would no longer be necessary. It is when the state creates black markets by prohibiting products and commerce which the market demands that violence necessarily enters the system. Violence begets violence, ad infinitum.