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gregwl
07-30-2010, 4:34 PM
Maybe this is old news but I just had an issue receiving primers from Midway via UPS. My wife and I both work so we are not here during the day when UPS delivers and requires a signature. So, as usual, I got the UPS InfoNotice stuck to the door. So, as usual, when I got home from work, I called UPS to hold the package at their facility so I can pickup there. UPS advised (3 different people) that this is no longer an option with them because they consider this an address change and Midway has not paid for that option. So, I called Midway and they advised that they have a new contract with UPS and have placed new shipping restrictions because of concerns that California people are trying to get around California laws. I did not follow the logic and told him I'd be making my future purchases from Grafs. Handgun ammo ban on the horizon and now starting to close the reloading route also. When will it stop!!!

ke6guj
07-30-2010, 5:30 PM
If the handgun ammo mailorder restrictions go into effect next year, I could see a CA resident mailordering ammo and having it shipped to a non-CA address. Then, once it was in UPS's hands, doing an address change so that it gets delivered to a CA address. That may be what midway is talking about.

lewdogg21
07-30-2010, 7:10 PM
Just wow. Do I need to use my parents house in Michigan to make "straw purchases" of primers and powder now too?

Wicked Pete
07-30-2010, 7:18 PM
(CALGUNS, INC.) - HEALDSBURG, CA. For Immediate Release May 5, 2010

Truckers and gun owner groups file lawsuit against California to void handgun ammunition shipping ban

Read about it on Calguns here

AB-962 Pre-empted By Federal Laws That Regulate Interstate Shipping

For Immediate Release: 7/28/2010

Redwood City, CA - The Owner-Operator Independent Drivers Association (OOIDA) has joined with the Calguns Foundation, the National Rifle Association, the Folsom Shooting Club and two individual truckers to challenge California’s soon to be implemented ban on the interstate shipment of handgun ammunition to California.

Last year, Governor Schwarzenegger signed Assembly Bill 962 into law. Starting in February 2011, the law will criminalize the delivery and transfer of handgun ammunition not done in face-to-face transactions. The law requires shipping companies to implement procedures to determine whether the recipient of a package containing handgun ammunition is covered by one of the exceptions in the law before delivering handgun ammunition in California. This places a big burden on the shippers, and will make shipping ammunition to California much more difficult and likely more expensive.

The new lawsuit, filed today in Sacramento’s Eastern District Federal Court, alleges that these provisions of the law violate the Federal Aviation Administration Authorization Act, which prohibits states and local municipalities from interfering with carriers’ rates, routes, or services.

“This isn’t about firearms or ammunition. Congress made an important decision to keep motor carriers free from a patchwork of burdensome regulation as we move America’s goods to market” said Jim Johnston, OOIDA President. “We cannot allow California to subject our members to criminal liability where the state has no right to meddle.”

California depends on the efficient movement of goods by carrier into California. “California legislators have become accustomed to trampling the rights of California’s gun community. However, this time they’ve taken that recklessness into a field that will hurt every Californian. AB-962 will slow down everyone who orders goods online or buys goods at a retail store,” said Gene Hoffman, Chairman of The Calguns Foundation.

In February 2008, a unanimous United States Supreme Court struck down Maine’s directly analogous law regarding the delivery of cigarettes to Maine in Rowe v. New Hampshire Motor Transport. “It does not matter what the State’s goal is or how honorable they believe their cause is,” stated lead attorney, Jason Davis of Davis & Associates. “Rowe made it clear that a state cannot interfere with a carrier’s rates, routes, or services. AB962 does just that.”

“At Sacramento Valley Shooting Center, we currently provide handgun ammunition sales to the public,” said Jim Bass, President of Folsom Shooting Club. “Should the shipping restrictions in AB-962 take effect, we have no way to prove to shippers that we are a handgun ammunition vendor under the law.”

This case follows a Second Amendment and Commerce Clause challenge entitled State Ammunition v. Lindley, and a California State Court Challenge to the vagueness and other requirements of AB-962 brought by the NRA-CRPA Foundation Legal Action Project.

The delivery prohibitions of AB-962 take effect in February 2011; Plaintiffs in this case will be moving quickly to obtain an injunction before the shipping portions of the law takes effect.

The case is filed as OOIDA et. al v. Lindley, U.S. Dist. Ct. E.D. C.A. 2:10-at-01095. A copy of the complaint is available from http://bit.ly/OOIDA-CGF-NRA .

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