View Full Version : Ebay strikes again!
sac7000
04-22-2006, 06:29 PM
So today I list a new Uncle Mikes Vertical shoulder holster on Ebay. Even photoshopped out the pic of the gun in the holster in hopes it would not spook anybody at Ebay. 2 hours later I get a message from Ebay Customer service saying my listing was cancelled because my item was prohibited. A holster? WTF?
http://tehamashooters.net/mikeshoulderholster.jpg
This is the actual photo that I used on Ebay. Note, no gun showing anywhere, I made it disappear with my magic mouse.
Here's the message from Ebay:
Dear Sac7000, We appreciate that you chose eBay to list the following auction-style listing(s):
7236631685 - Uncle Mike's Vertical Shoulder Holster Left Hand
However, your auction-style listing(s) violates eBay's Firearms, Weapons, and Knives policy and has been removed. In accordance with our User Agreement, items prohibited by law or by eBay policy are not allowed on eBay. We have credited all associated fees to your account and notified eBay users associated with the transaction that it has been cancelled.
Since the sale of weapons is highly regulated, or may cause harm to eBay or its members, sellers are restricted in their listing of them on eBay.
eBay does not permit the sale of any assault weapon-related parts or accessories. This prohibition applies to all parts and accessories related to any firearm defined as an assault weapon by federal or California law.
Please note: violation of this or other eBay policies may result in forfeit of eBay fees on cancelled listings, limits on account privileges and account suspension.
Now am I missing something here or has Ebay gone 100 percent anti-gun? I've bought and sold 'legal' firearms parts on Ebay for over 6 years without a problem. Since when did a holster become a prohibited item?
Grrrrr....
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douglasmorris99
04-22-2006, 06:31 PM
did you state the gun was not for sale
I just sold a top slide for a 1911 with a 10 day listing, showed the complete gun in the pic..but you have to state, gun not for sale..
sac7000
04-22-2006, 06:37 PM
did you state the gun was not for sale
I just sold a top slide for a 1911 with a 10 day listing, showed the complete gun in the pic..but you have to state, gun not for sale..
Just added the pic I had in the listing to my first post. Shows only a body wearing a shoulder holster and no gun in pic period. I emailed Ebay cust service, when they finally reply I will post it here.
icormba
04-22-2006, 06:41 PM
eBay's autobot must have some hits on any one of your subject words...
Vertical Shoulder Holster Left Hand
I'm thinking it might be the word Vertical? why? because vertical is an evil word! :confused: Vertical-pistol grip
sac7000
04-22-2006, 06:45 PM
eBay's autobot must have some hits on any one of your subject words...
Vertical Shoulder Holster Left Hand
I'm thinking it might be the word Vertical? why? because vertical is an evil word! :confused: Vertical-pistol grip
Of course! Everybody knows that ' vertical ' also means the ability to " spray from the hip " ....dang...I should have caught that before submitting it. I am such a dumbsh*t!
CALI-gula
04-22-2006, 06:51 PM
Is this one yours too? If not, it looks like the same picture but gun is shown. Can't see any reason why they would cancel. I am sure it is some kind of mistake. I was bidding on a barrel for a gun this morning; and still plenty of magazines and guns parts all over; much more nefarious. Did a search on Uncle Mikes holster: 107 items.
Is it possible you had something else they did not like, such as AK47 parts, they canceled that, and then canceled this one too? I am just as puzzled.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Uncle-Mikes-Vertical-Shoulder-Holster-Large-Revolver_W0QQitemZ7236074637QQcategoryZ73971QQssPa geNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/0/9/1/4/7/8/webimg/9905535_tp.jpg
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uglygun
04-22-2006, 06:55 PM
Use cutesie wootsie words in your post.
It's a over the shoulder non-boulder handgun holder.
xenophobe
04-22-2006, 07:29 PM
Someone had to complain about your particular listing....
There are over 1400 completed auctions for the term "Shoulder holster".
forumguy
04-22-2006, 07:47 PM
Someone had to complain about your particular listing....
There are over 1400 completed auctions for the term "Shoulder holster".
Exactly! Gun grabbers can send a notice to eBay. That gets their attention.
I've had the same thing happen to me. After the initial correspondence I was actually communicating with one of eBay's admins. They still wouldn't budge.
The culprit was a First Samco vertical grip.
icormba
04-22-2006, 08:10 PM
Exactly! Gun grabbers can send a notice to eBay. That gets their attention.
I've had the same thing happen to me. After the initial correspondence I was actually communicating with one of eBay's admins. They still wouldn't budge.
The culprit was a First Samco vertical grip.
again... the word vertical is used in context with a gun listing. :confused:
ohhhh and grip
Someone had to complain about your particular listing....
There are over 1400 completed auctions for the term "Shoulder holster".
But only "8 items found for Vertical Shoulder Holster" ;)
sac7000
04-22-2006, 08:32 PM
Is this one yours too? If not, it looks like the same picture but gun is shown. Can't see any reason why they would cancel. I am sure it is some kind of mistake. I was bidding on a barrel for a gun this morning; and still plenty of magazines and guns parts all over; much more nefarious. Did a search on Uncle Mikes holster: 107 items.
Is it possible you had something else they did not like, such as AK47 parts, they canceled that, and then canceled this one too? I am just as puzzled.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Uncle-Mikes-Vertical-Shoulder-Holster-Large-Revolver_W0QQitemZ7236074637QQcategoryZ73971QQssPa geNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/0/9/1/4/7/8/webimg/9905535_tp.jpg
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Yup, that's the original photo. I had removed the pistol from the photo. It also was the only listing I had on Ebay. In fact, I don't think I've ever listed any gun related items for sale on Ebay. I have however purchased many AR15 accessories on Ebay, foward grip, handguard rails, etc. I'm just not going to list items for sale that are firearms related anymore. No, I'm not going to list anything for sale anymore on Ebay unless it's my only option for a sale. By the time you pay your listing fees, final auction fees and PayPal fees, your net profit is pretty small. I'm tired of being ' fee'ed ' to death...
douglasmorris99
04-22-2006, 08:40 PM
did you happen to post for world wide sales..no gun related sold out of conus..that got me flagged once.
Charliegone
04-22-2006, 10:37 PM
did you happen to post for world wide sales..no gun related sold out of conus..that got me flagged once.
Oh no! Why would you sell a holster out of the country!!! The humanity!!!! Think of the children that will be killed by that evil black holster.....Think of the Children!!!:rolleyes:
Sometimes I wish the stupid people in this world will never have children...
CSkyhawk72
04-22-2006, 11:01 PM
Dye it pink, and hot glue lots of plastic flowers to it.... EBay might like it then! :D
ohsmily
04-22-2006, 11:29 PM
Guys, I have had completely legit auctions that were CLEARLY in compliance with eBay policies get dumped by eBay before for "violation of their policy"...so frustrating. Who knows how their system runs. If you auction is in compliance, just restart it. It will probably stick.
ldivinag
04-22-2006, 11:47 PM
i remember an ebay auction of BRASS. empty brass.
yet ebay of australia made such aa big deal about and the seller fought and fought.
in the end, ebay folded and his final auction page was like close to 10 pages and every single line was like
THIS IS NOT ACTUAL AMMO. THIS IS ONLY BRASS. BRASS CANNOT KILL YOU
or something to that effect. it was just so funny...
sac7000
04-23-2006, 09:06 AM
Guys, I have had completely legit auctions that were CLEARLY in compliance with eBay policies get dumped by eBay before for "violation of their policy"...so frustrating. Who knows how their system runs. If you auction is in compliance, just restart it. It will probably stick.
I will re-list and make sure any reference to " vertical " does not appear. For that matter, any reference to " pistol " or " gun " will not appear either. Only a warm and fuzzy reference to the kindly old gentleman " Uncle Mike " and his " thing " that you wear attached to your " booty " will be used to describe my evil vertical shoulder holster.
And while law-abiding tax-paying citizens continue to be harrased by the Jack-booted Ebay thugs, items that encourage illegal prostitution shall still be allowed.
Example:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9306433341&indexURL=4#ebayphotohosting
Eljay
04-23-2006, 12:52 PM
On the PowerSeller forum there was a thread recently about a woman selling concealment purses who had auctions pulled, and lots of threads about people selling vintage toy guns without the orange tips who had auctions pulled.
I sell fine art prints that generally contain some level of nudity - which is allowed if you stay within certain guidelines - and every couple of months I get an item pulled. And it's always one of the more innocent ones, clearly within their guidelines. I write in and ask a supervisor to remove it and remove the strike from my record because they do track violations and if you get repeat offenses they'll suspend your account and basically at that point they won't go back and review the earlier ones. So each time you get an auction pulled, don't ignore it, write in and have it reviewed.
Don't say that other people are selling them, because they basically stop reading at that point. Don't expect a response in less than a few days.
sac7000
04-23-2006, 01:19 PM
On the PowerSeller forum there was a thread recently about a woman selling concealment purses who had auctions pulled, and lots of threads about people selling vintage toy guns without the orange tips who had auctions pulled.
I sell fine art prints that generally contain some level of nudity - which is allowed if you stay within certain guidelines - and every couple of months I get an item pulled. And it's always one of the more innocent ones, clearly within their guidelines. I write in and ask a supervisor to remove it and remove the strike from my record because they do track violations and if you get repeat offenses they'll suspend your account and basically at that point they won't go back and review the earlier ones. So each time you get an auction pulled, don't ignore it, write in and have it reviewed.
Don't say that other people are selling them, because they basically stop reading at that point. Don't expect a response in less than a few days.
I responded but I'm not expecting a reply anytime soon. I really don't need their services anymore anyway, the net has plenty of other ways to dispose of and purchase items and you don't get " slapped " on the hand for violating unclear guidelines. You'd think they (Ebay) would be more concerned with all the fraud activities occuring online then to punish innocent sellers and buyers who did nothing.
Nahuatl
04-23-2006, 04:37 PM
Ebay blows. :confused: Try PredatorMasters for a free listing, or GunsAmerica or GunBroker for a fee listing. Guaranteed no anti-gun weenies there.
akspetsnaz
04-26-2006, 01:53 PM
Someone had to complain about your particular listing....
Someone didn't like your auction and reported to eBay.
A 20 something CS works at eBay did not know a thing but to cancel your auction.
That's how things done at eBay most of the time.
:cool:
50 Freak
04-26-2006, 02:04 PM
I'm so ashamed....I have friends that are attys that work at eBay. I know this anti-gun CYA policy was due to their advice...:( :(
akspetsnaz
04-26-2006, 02:35 PM
Sorry to say but eBay is a Cali company. They have to watch their back from lawsuits, and have to follow the Cali gun law.
I believe staying away from lawsuits is more than being anti-gun at eBay.
CALI-gula
04-26-2006, 02:56 PM
I will re-list and make sure any reference to " vertical " does not appear. For that matter, any reference to " pistol " or " gun " will not appear either. Only a warm and fuzzy reference to the kindly old gentleman " Uncle Mike " and his " thing " that you wear attached to your " booty " will be used to describe my evil vertical shoulder holster.
And while law-abiding tax-paying citizens continue to be harrased by the Jack-booted Ebay thugs, items that encourage illegal prostitution shall still be allowed. Example: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9306433341&indexURL=4#ebayphotohosting
I KNOW THE GIRL IN THOSE PHOTOS!!! She lived in Hollywood with her boyfriend, on Primrose Ave for about a year and a half, in a "nice" suburban upper-echelon area of Hollywood foothills (not the boulevard, not the city sections). They split up, she found someone new, and moved to a place around the corner. Name was Raine or Rayne - was a nurse if you can beleive that!! She had such a tiny waste and as you can see in the photos, there is no way those were real. I would know her body anywhere, especially with that specific belly-button jewelry.
When she walked around the neighborhood, she was always dressed in clothes not too much more discreet than what is shown in those Ebay photos; people would go nuts over her, like a freak show! Other tenants were mystified as she looked like a comic book character body shape, almost not real. She was very nice, very endearing, had that Ferrari body, but her face... well, let's just say she was very strong-jawed with masculine overtones (but not a transvestite). However, if you saw her in person, you might have thought she was a guy in drag. Sorry Rayne/Raine.
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CSkyhawk72
04-26-2006, 03:14 PM
Holy cow, Cali, do you know those jumblies???? :eek: :D
mltrading
04-26-2006, 05:30 PM
No wonder. The E(vil)Bay is well-known anti-gun nazi.:mad:
I won't bother dealing with E(vil)Bay.:mad:
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