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oddjob
07-24-2010, 1:40 PM
Now I have friends who have guns. I have friends who have a collection of guns. But until recently I don't think I've seen a "collector's collection" of guns in person.

This person has a gun office in his home. Guns on the walls, guns in the corners (multiple Garands!), guns in his closets, guns in his garage and guns in his safes. He has five safes. Two contained rifles, two contained handguns, and the other had older .22 lr's. The guns had tags with serial #'s, date of manufacture, caliber. All his guns were made of wood and steel. No plastic anywhere! My kind of guns. Korean War era was the "newest" stuff he had. He had Trapdoor Springfields, 1941 Johnson, Garands, M1 carbines, 03's and 03A3's, Nambu's, 1911's (and he had 1911's!!), Colts, S&W's, old Win .22lr's rifles & etc.

He had books and books on guns. He has guns that are in the published collector's books (I saw one). He has a rifle with an approval stamp of "EK" stamped on it. This is for Elmer Keith when Keith worked for an arms company (the name escapes me). He had a Nazi proof stamped Norwegian 1911 (didn't know they existed) that had to be 95% +. He has a 1911 from every US manufacture and the different variations through WW2. He also has a 1911 from every country that produced them from Colt machinery. It was amazing.

This is a first for me to view a "Collector's Collection" in person.

1911su16b870
07-24-2010, 5:14 PM
Yes I feel you...it is truely a blessing to have the opportunity to view a true collection. It is a private museum that you had an opportunity to view, admire and learn from...

bballwizard05
07-24-2010, 5:26 PM
Jealous over here. :(

Saigon1965
07-24-2010, 5:27 PM
Why didn't ya snap some pics -

bluestaterebel
07-24-2010, 5:31 PM
:useless:

johnthomas
07-24-2010, 5:34 PM
The quality and quantity of a collection depends on many things, most importantly is money. My collection consists of 2 nagant pistols, 2 Mosin Nagant carbines, 3 91/30's, 3 CZ52's one CZ82 and various 22 rifles. Then I have my modern shotguns and pistols.
I think we relic collectors look at guns differently than other folks.
For me, the ingenuity of the builders given the limited numbers of options when building guns, ie, stock material, metallurgy and precise measuring techniques as well as ammunition choices.
Getting turnkey relics is great, but helping to enhance old guns is and art and skill. I like taking old mosin nagants and makin em purty, lol.
Maybe your friend gives tours? lol. I could stay in a place like that for days.

CSACANNONEER
07-24-2010, 5:35 PM
I got a tour of Evine's house before he moved out of state many years ago. He ran Evine's trapping supplies and had a gunshop in the front two rooms of his house. Every wall in every room was covered with firearms. IIRC, one of his bedroom walls was nothing but Model 12s.

oddjob
07-24-2010, 6:11 PM
If I would have known I may have brought my camera and asked to take pics, but collector's/gun owners can be funny about that kind of stuff. You all know how that can be!! I think gun owners would rather have you take pics of their kids before their guns!!! I would have been there for two days taking pics. Just about each handgun was in its own gun rug. They were stacked on each other in his safe.

1911su16b870......You hit it! It was a private gun museum. And the best part was he allowed me to handle the guns. I knew he was a serious collector when he pulled the books out and showed me the gun that was in the photos.

I only generically described the gun collection he had. The walls were covered with WW2 photos (like an autographed photo of Paul Tibbets who flew the Enola Gray). He bought some guns from a Tibbets family member. I only wish I could have visited him longer. Swords were present, assorted bayonets, helmets & etc.

If you ever get a chance for a private viewing of a "collector" someday......do it!

Thefeeder
07-24-2010, 6:41 PM
The quality and quantity of a collection depends on many things, most importantly is money. My collection consists of 2 nagant pistols, 2 Mosin Nagant carbines, 3 91/30's, 3 CZ52's one CZ82 and various 22 rifles. Then I have my modern shotguns and pistols.
I think we relic collectors look at guns differently than other folks.
For me, the ingenuity of the builders given the limited numbers of options when building guns, ie, stock material, metallurgy and precise measuring techniques as well as ammunition choices.
Getting turnkey relics is great, but helping to enhance old guns is and art and skill. I like taking old mosin nagants and makin em purty, lol.
Maybe your friend gives tours? lol. I could stay in a place like that for days.

Money is not the most important thing. Its starts by thinking like a collector. I started buying 300.00 dollor guns back in the day. Built the collection up from there. Building up doesen't mean buying more guns for say, it means horse trading and searching for better condition pieces or adding a few buck to step to the next level price range.

You can start also by buying original, rare configuration WWII guns in the best condition possible. Original is key. There are 600.00 MI Garand and 2200.00 Garands...When a person understands the differance between the two......I'ts just a matter of time before that person will owns a 2200.00 Garand

bruceflinch
07-24-2010, 7:01 PM
Been to the NRA Museum in Fairfax, Va.
It was pretty cool!!!

Fjold
07-24-2010, 7:11 PM
I know a guy who has an underground vault that you can drive into. He is one of the, if not the largest private collector of US military small arms in the world. His place is unbelievable, his display wall of US issue revolvers alone is easily 6 feet tall by 12 feet long.

Tom Slick
07-24-2010, 7:19 PM
If you guys are ever in Morro Bay, stop by Harbor Guns. I think it's just a guy's collection and a place to store it. The owner doesn't talk to you, hardly acknowledges you, certainly doesn't want to sell anything. I don't think there is anything in there newer than 1950 and most is 1800-1920.

cannon
07-24-2010, 7:20 PM
I have a friend who has been collecting military Colt 45 acp's for decades. Over the years he's added civvy and 1903's.

He took 2nd place at the Colt factory gun show 10-15 years ago. He lost out to a Colt SA collector.

It is amazing to see tables and tables of Colts including the rarest and finest examples.

BigDogatPlay
07-24-2010, 7:29 PM
I had an acquaintance many years ago who actively collect S&W revolvers. Lots and lots of 27's of all different vintage, from Registered Magnum forward. He is who got me into S&W and I've had up to 20 over the years, and own 8 currently.

The difference between a collector and me is that all mine are shooters. I don't collect, in the pure sense, to acquire and put away.

Nihonto Chicken
07-24-2010, 8:31 PM
If you guys are ever in Morro Bay, stop by Harbor Guns. I think it's just a guy's collection and a place to store it. The owner doesn't talk to you, hardly acknowledges you, certainly doesn't want to sell anything.

Which is why I never stop by there, having been living on the Central Coast for over thirty years. I don't need my butt kissed, but I don't need attitude, either.

tuolumnejim
07-24-2010, 8:38 PM
Why yes I have, go check out the Donovans basement. :43: Link (http://www.fototime.com/ftweb/bin/ft.dll/pictures?userid={DB329DA3-317F-453E-BAEE-D4B69D57BC58}&inv=47C67ABCCDB8660&userid={DB329DA3-317F-453E-BAEE-D4B69D57BC58}&inv=47C67ABCCDB8660&albumid={3AC4A331-CB60-4034-9CE6-6E606C63422E}&st=he&GUID={093FD5F7-4A9C-4648-912D-8AA2DE68CF32}&sent=stored)

Mstrty
07-24-2010, 9:00 PM
OK OK Ill share my basement with you guys. <wink> a collection to drool over (http://hkpro.com/forum/showthread.php?86355-Pics-of-largest-private-collection-of-NFA&p=642345&viewfull=1#post642345)

Or my brothers place.:)http://www.sturmgewehr.com/bhinton/ReedKnightCollection/The%20Room.jpg

Caiden07
07-24-2010, 9:50 PM
^^^ Sweet collection

six10
07-25-2010, 12:07 PM
The old Harold's Club casino in Reno had a great collection. Long gone now...

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/9342/haroldsclub.jpg (http://img208.imageshack.us/i/haroldsclub.jpg/)

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Massan
07-25-2010, 3:12 PM
One day if I ever manage to get the money I want to convert my basement into Burt's(Tremors).

jigenax
07-25-2010, 4:19 PM
That's my dream house! A live in gun vault.

rojocorsa
07-25-2010, 5:17 PM
I like taking old mosin nagants and makin em purty, lol.

I've seen what johnthomas does, and he does a GOOD job!

johnthomas
07-26-2010, 10:41 AM
I've seen what johnthomas does, and he does a GOOD job!

Thank you for the compliment. I just finished a 91/30 I bought 15 years ago. I refinished it then with linseed oil, did not know anything about taking out dents and finishes.
BTW it's nice to meet younger guys that have a passion for our sport and the old guns.

Oregonish
07-26-2010, 12:46 PM
I'd like to see the red room once in my life.

http://web.me.com/bofrench/Red_Room/ENTER.html

Cyc Wid It
07-26-2010, 12:48 PM
I'd like to see the red room once in my life.

http://web.me.com/bofrench/Red_Room/ENTER.html

agreed

packnrat
07-27-2010, 5:24 AM
alas i have started selling off my collection. as i need food. and i do not have any kids to let have them when i die.
so just better to sell them to those who enjoy these things.

:TFH:

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Turbinator
07-28-2010, 11:29 PM
Don't most of us dream of creating the ultimate gun room at home?

Turby

audihenry
07-28-2010, 11:51 PM
I never understood the point of collecting. While I love seeing cool guns I wouldn't see elsewhere, it defeats the point to stick it on a wall and look at it. Just like people who have multi-million dollar cars and only lick the dirt clean instead of driving them!

Sure, if you shoot a one-of-a-kind gun you run the risk of lowering its value, but is that really all there is to aspire to? A gun is for shooting, a car is for driving, an airplane is for flying. Sticking it on a wall don't cut it!

Coltlover
07-29-2010, 3:01 AM
Wow God bless your friend!I also have a friend that owns alot alot of Colts .I feel blessed when he puts in my hands a Mint condition Super Match 38 .

Californio
07-29-2010, 9:16 AM
I know a guy that has a walk-in Vault in his home, with the most beautiful collection of high grade shotguns you have ever seen.

The old Abercrombie and Fitch in New York had a whole floor dedicated to high-end Shotguns and Hunting Rifles, a sight to behold, the engraving was true art.

Sam
07-29-2010, 9:50 AM
If you guys are ever in Morro Bay, stop by Harbor Guns. I think it's just a guy's collection and a place to store it. The owner doesn't talk to you, hardly acknowledges you, certainly doesn't want to sell anything. I don't think there is anything in there newer than 1950 and most is 1800-1920.

Does he actually do any business? I've gone past that shop a few times every year for the past 10 years or so and I've never seen any customers. I wanted to go in the last time I was in town but I guess I was too early for the store owner.

Tom Slick
07-31-2010, 12:23 PM
Does he actually do any business? I've gone past that shop a few times every year for the past 10 years or so and I've never seen any customers. I wanted to go in the last time I was in town but I guess I was too early for the store owner.

I don't think he does any business.
The store owner is interesting to look at also. He looks like the safari hunter in Jumanji.

OT: Bridge Sportsman's Center is Paso Robles is the best shop in the county. Really great people working there.

KillZone45
07-31-2010, 3:48 PM
There is I think the Buffalo Bill museum in Cody, Wyoming was the biggest collection that I have ever seen. Rooms and rooms and rooms and rooms full of firearms and they even had a Boon and Crockett World Record room. Simply awesome!!!!
http://www.bbhc.org/firearms/

pullnshoot25
07-31-2010, 3:54 PM
I have an invite to see a collector's collection. He apparently has a warehouse.

Turbinator
08-01-2010, 9:53 AM
I know a guy that has a walk-in Vault in his home, with the most beautiful collection of high grade shotguns you have ever seen.

The old Abercrombie and Fitch in New York had a whole floor dedicated to high-end Shotguns and Hunting Rifles, a sight to behold, the engraving was true art.

You guys have to read the history of A&F - they had 12 floors for their New York location, housed a shooting range, and one whole floor was dedicated to firearms.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Abercrombie_%26_Fitch

Turby

pullnshoot25
08-01-2010, 9:56 AM
Thank you for the compliment. I just finished a 91/30 I bought 15 years ago. I refinished it then with linseed oil, did not know anything about taking out dents and finishes.
BTW it's nice to meet younger guys that have a passion for our sport and the old guns.

Hey, you can talk Mosins or old guns with me any day of the week! ;)

Saigon1965
08-01-2010, 10:09 AM
Too bad with the changes -

You guys have to read the history of A&F - they had 12 floors for their New York location, housed a shooting range, and one whole floor was dedicated to firearms.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Abercrombie_%26_Fitch

Turby

Californio
08-01-2010, 4:19 PM
You guys have to read the history of A&F - they had 12 floors for their New York location, housed a shooting range, and one whole floor was dedicated to firearms.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Abercrombie_%26_Fitch

Turby

I passed through NYC in 1972 and spent a few hours drooling on the Firearms and Outdoor Camping floors. This simple California boy was amazed they had such stuff in the City.