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dwtt
04-19-2006, 7:49 PM
Hi everyone,
I was looking at the status of AB2353, which would make someone who uses deadly force in his own home against an intruder who enters forcibly immune from civil law suits, was voted down by Leno's Democrats in committee. Then they voted unanimously to allow the bill to be reconsidered. I'm guessing they did this so the bill author can rewrite it or make changes that's agreeable to the Democrats. Anyone know what the situation is with this bill. I'd like to see it pass, and I hope eveyone here would write in to support it.

The Soup Nazi
04-19-2006, 8:00 PM
Oh, we could never allow ourselves the constitutional and god given right to defend ourselves! That would just be unfair to the criminal because obviously as demonstrated by our representatives, they deserve more human compassion than we do!

PanzerAce
04-19-2006, 8:12 PM
wow, he is 15, and has already mastered sarcasm....

Santa Cruz Armory
04-19-2006, 9:00 PM
wow, he is 15, and has already mastered sarcasm....

And he uses good grammar and punctuation! He'd make Oshmily proud!:D

dawson8r
04-19-2006, 9:10 PM
"Better to be tried by 12 then carried by 6". I'll use whatever force I have at my disposal to protect my wife and children, lawful or not. Ask yourself this question: If you were to break into a home at 2:00AM would you be armed?

dwtt
04-20-2006, 8:10 PM
"Better to be tried by 12 then carried by 6". I'll use whatever force I have at my disposal to protect my wife and children, lawful or not. Ask yourself this question: If you were to break into a home at 2:00AM would you be armed?
I think you misunderstood the issue here. There is no doubt that readers of this forum will shoot to kill an intruder in our house. AB2353 will give us additional protection so the criminal and his family cannot file a _civil_ lawsuit against us. Even though such a suit will be a frivolous suit, it will cost us a lot of time and money to defend ourselves in court. You might even have to sell your house to pay the legal fees. That's why AB2353 is so important, it won't let the criminal misuse the court to file a frivolous civil suit against the victim of the crime.
Back to my original question, does anyone know what the situation is with this bill?

m1aowner
05-14-2006, 1:21 AM
Here is the author of the bill. I don't see this bill in his current legislation. May want to shoot an email to his office. I'm doing the same.
http://republican.assembly.ca.gov/members/index.asp?Dist=65&Lang=1&Body=CurrentLegislation

xenophobe
05-14-2006, 2:18 AM
I just sent a thank you email to him for even attempting such a bill in California.

bg
05-14-2006, 8:32 PM
Ah heck ! That's MY Assembly Member from the 65th.
I didn't even know Russ sponsored this bill.

dwtt
05-15-2006, 7:36 PM
Ah heck ! That's MY Assembly Member from the 65th.
I didn't even know Russ sponsored this bill.
I learned of the bill from one of those newsletters sent out by CRPA. If you're in his district, please write him and ask him what the status of the bill is. Tell him you want the bill to pass. Reps listen to people in their own district.

shopkeep
05-15-2006, 7:42 PM
Ummm... how much longer until Leno and his friends in the Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender caucus term out? I'm really getting tired of them being constant roadblocks in the safety committee. And I STILL haven't forgotten about his constant efforts to legalize gay marriage and get possession of child pornography reduced to a misdemeanor.

Not that I have strong opinions about gay marriage and whether this is right or wrong, I simply have issues with legislators who decide they are above the people of the state and usurp the popular vote.