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donkey12
07-17-2010, 1:51 PM
Well like it says what's a better gun feel I have a 228 and was thinking of getting a 225 tomorrow what's the best as far as feel and recoil please advise asap thanks

toneman
07-17-2010, 2:33 PM
I'm no expert but as far as I know P225 offten refers P6 which is single stack mag vs P228,
& both recoils about the same.

Black Majik
07-17-2010, 2:37 PM
Single stack P225 vs double stack P228.

Which feels best to you?

donkey12
07-17-2010, 3:08 PM
So they are pretty much the same as far as felt recoil and weight it's just the capacity that's different ???

remyjoeboxer
07-17-2010, 4:28 PM
Some are very fond of their 225/p6, but I find them to be pretty equal. I prefer my 228 for feel and capacity. Don't know but maybe the extra rounds help with recoil, but then logic will state that they should be pretty even after the first couple of shots from the 228.
I like the single stack on the p220, but the single stack 225 seems small for me. P228 is spot on perfect. The only advantage p225 might have over p228 is it might be a tad easier for CC, but then there are so many others better for CC. Pointless to have both, unless its all in your head. Then you got the Sig-ness, which is pretty common. You can't just have one and will justify ever unimaginable scenario (to the wife) to get more. Good luck.

donkey12
07-17-2010, 4:41 PM
Lmao well said remy thanks

k1dude
07-17-2010, 5:00 PM
Well like it says what's a better gun feel I have a 228 and was thinking of getting a 225 tomorrow what's the best as far as feel and recoil please advise asap thanks

Just tell yourself you're buying it for your wife or future wife. Yeah, that's the ticket!

XDRoX
07-17-2010, 5:07 PM
They're pretty similar with the 228 being better IMO. I think the double stack feels better than the single. You already have one of the best 9's ever made. Like others have said, unless you just want another Sig (which isn't a bad thing), then I'd get something else.

Do you have a G19 yet:D

bjl333
07-17-2010, 5:53 PM
I love my p228 and dad has a p225. besides the grip I can't find too much difference !! Enjoy your Sig .....

bsg
07-17-2010, 5:54 PM
the P225 and P228 are both great combat handguns. i find them both to be comfortable to shoot. the grips on the P225 are more comfortable for me than any handgun i have ever shot. the P228 holds well also.

it should be noted that between the P225 and the P228, the P228 is more forgiving if shot while dirty. also you should not ever use +p ammo in the P225 for defensive purposes because the slide will be cycled too fast and failure to feed may occur. this is not a documented problem for the P228, although +p ammo shouldn't be used as a steady diet because of potential damage to the frame... as with all handguns that have an alloy frame. the pre 1996 P226 models have some history with cracked frames from +p ammo.

the P228 has reached cult status with collectors and shooters; the P225 has as well.

tbhracing
07-17-2010, 10:19 PM
Bare minimum, get the upgraded grips for the 225. Those stock grips with the circles drive me nuts.

JonM
07-18-2010, 12:47 AM
If you are rockin CA legal mags it seems to me like the main difference would be that the 228 has two extra rounds and a wider grip. Also, if the p6 is an older German police trade in there is a chance that it may not cycle hollowpoints as reliably as the 228. Don't quote me but I think the original german police p6 is designed for FMJs but I'm not completely sure. Also, there are some 225s out there with European magazine releases ok the heel. Top Gun had some last I checked for an awesome price.

Ultimate
07-18-2010, 1:40 AM
I don't have experience with either but I heard the p225/p6 won't cycle ammo as reliably.

9mmepiphany
07-18-2010, 1:59 AM
the 228 and the 225/P6 are the same width due to the 225's grip thickness

the 228 has a rounded trigger guard, while the 225 has a squared off one

the 228 will be heavier due to the extra rounds

the 228's tapered mag, because the rounds are staggered, make it a bit faster to reload...unless you're a 1911 guy

the 228's trigger can be tuned more finely because of the different action geometry

every 225 i've handed, they used to be our academy training guns, would feed JHP ammo...it's all we shot. some P6's have different angles on their feed ramps and might balk at JHPs...it's an easy fix

Andy Taylor
07-18-2010, 7:40 AM
Personally I like the feel of the P225/P6 better than the P228. With CA legal mags, the P228 has a 2 round advantage.
See which one feels better in your hand and go for it.
Or get both.

5.56Geo
07-18-2010, 8:01 AM
One thing that has not been mentioned is the Sig P6 will be about $150 -$200 cheaper if not more! The good Sig P6's will some day dry up and you will alway be able to find a good P228. You can tell I have a P6 cant you :D? Get a Sig P6.

9mmepiphany
07-18-2010, 9:09 AM
One thing that has not been mentioned is the Sig P6 will be about $150 -$200 cheaper if not more! The good Sig P6's will some day dry up and you will alway be able to find a good P228. You can tell I have a P6 cant you :D? Get a Sig P6.

the 228 has been replaced in the current production catalog long ago by the 9mm 229 (not to be confused with the .40/357 Sig 229)

dg29
07-18-2010, 10:40 AM
Apples and oranges if you happen to have decent sized hands. The P6/225 have a bottom magazine floor plate and sharp angled trigger guard that makes gripping it, for me, uncomfortable. My German/Swiss 228 fits like a glove. In my view,for me, I will never consider a p6/225.
Your finding may be completely different from mine.

bbhuang
07-18-2010, 12:39 PM
http://toilindustries.com/bbhuang/Pictures/Guns/IMG_0051.JPG
http://toilindustries.com/bbhuang/Pictures/Guns/IMG_0053.JPG
http://toilindustries.com/bbhuang/Pictures/Guns/IMG_0054.JPG

Some size comparisons. I hope they're helpful.

As a caveat - my 228 is a "SAS" frame 228. Supposedly it's a 228 slide on a 229 SAS frame.

9mmepiphany
07-18-2010, 1:31 PM
The P6/225 have a bottom magazine floor plate and sharp angled trigger guard that makes gripping it, for me, uncomfortable.

if you are referring to the mag release, the P6 uses the same style of release as the 228. a reversible button at the root of the trigger.

the trigger guard comment has me a bit confused, are you talking about using a grip where you put a figner on the front of the guard?

pTa
07-18-2010, 1:46 PM
9mmepi-
there's a varsion of the 225 that has a heel release magazine

OP-
i have smaller hands/ the 225 feels better to me (although they are both roughly the same width- the single stack grip is a little easier for me)

ArcLight
07-18-2010, 1:55 PM
Get a nice 1911 and call it good

dg29
07-18-2010, 1:59 PM
if you are referring to the mag release, the P6 uses the same style of release as the 228. a reversible button at the root of the trigger.

the trigger guard comment has me a bit confused, are you talking about using a grip where you put a figner on the front of the guard?

I'm speaking of the bottom of the trigger guard where the top of my my middle finger comes into contact with it when I grip a p6/225. It has sharper angles on it compared to my 228. Along with that, the magazine floor plate stuck into the bottom part of my pinky finger. These are two things that my 228 does not do.

9mmepiphany
07-18-2010, 3:20 PM
9mmepi-
there's a varsion of the 225 that has a heel release magazine


yup, i've seen those

that's why i specified the P6, they went through the German Police trials with the button release and never were offered with the heel release

9mmepiphany
07-18-2010, 3:22 PM
I'm speaking of the bottom of the trigger guard where the top of my my middle finger comes into contact with it when I grip a p6/225. It has sharper angles on it compared to my 228. Along with that, the magazine floor plate stuck into the bottom part of my pinky finger. These are two things that my 228 does not do.
now i understand...thanks

yes that would be a hand fit issue, i have long fingers, but they aren't very thick, so i haven't experienced this

hammerli240
07-18-2010, 3:29 PM
get both,
they are different but depends on application.
225 are vey slim and easy to carry.
it is also one of the nicest handling pistol when it comes
to actually shooting it.
it has a fast recovery and balances nicely.

gl.

RaceDay
07-18-2010, 4:36 PM
I own a P6 and a P228. Both are great. I like the P228 a little more. It balances a little bit better. The 2 extra rounds are nice but not essential.

P228 also has nearly mythical status. Part of the reason I got one after owning the P6 was to see what all the hype was about. And it just about lives up to the hype-- it is a sweet pistol and is my current favorite 9mm to shoot.

pTa
07-18-2010, 4:51 PM
if you are referring to the mag release, the P6 uses the same style of release as the 228. a reversible button at the root of the trigger.

the trigger guard comment has me a bit confused, are you talking about using a grip where you put a figner on the front of the guard?

also; the P6s I've seen didn't have reversible magazine releases like the other P series Sigs. in CA there's less of a difference in overall heft in that a loaded 10 round mag in the 228 doesn't weight a lot more than a fully loaded 8 round magazine.

Packy14
07-20-2010, 12:24 AM
yup, i've seen those

that's why i specified the P6, they went through the German Police trials with the button release and never were offered with the heel release

heel release was a swiss police version. Some were available a few months back but they are usually not around. I had a 225/p6... past 15 yards...most inaccurate pistol I've ever shot, it got sold... i love my 226 in 9mm..i can hit 100yd steel w/ it.

9mmepiphany
07-20-2010, 2:06 PM
I had a 225/p6... past 15 yards...most inaccurate pistol I've ever shot, it got sold

sorry to hear that, it used to be the gun issued to cadets in the Academy for firearms training and they shoot out to 25 yards with them. i go a chance to try one when working with a cadet who was having a problem with his pistol and was surprised that it was about as accurate as my personally owned 226. maybe it was a gun to hand fit for you

btwash
07-21-2010, 10:15 AM
Lots of good info - I own and shoot both regularly so I will chime as well:

First off, both pistols are very accurate for me, and I have never had a FTF on either with a few thousand rounds through both. My 225 is a 1997 production, and the 228 is a 2000. Controls, weight, and perceived recoil seem the same to me in both pistols.

At the range, the main differences for me between the two are (1) the 225 does have a slimmer grip. This takes a little adjustment to avoid having my trigger finger extend too far - if I pull trigger at the first joint rather than with the pad of my trigger finger, it hits the trigger guard during recoil and starts to hurt after a while. (2) 225 mags are very easy to reload quickly vs the 228 - not sure why, maybe the springs are just more broken in my 225 mags, but it takes me twice the effort to fill the 228 mags

I enjoy having both, and would be hard pressed to choose between the two.

Packy14
07-27-2010, 1:00 AM
ya..i think the grip just didnt fit my hand well w/ the 225... I have that problem with slim single stacks... I have big hands, even on my 226's i have hogues on them to make it bigger..and then it fits jussss right.