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Colt-45
07-14-2010, 5:30 PM
Interested to see which of the more recent Glock 19's is proffered among Calguners.

I know both of these aren't on the roster:( but RTF 2 or Gen4 and why?


I can't decide. Need some arguments for and against by fellow Calguners.

tbhracing
07-14-2010, 5:37 PM
I like the tacky/sticky feel of the RTF.

j1133s
07-14-2010, 5:40 PM
Interchangeable grips. Glock was imperfect but now closer to perfection again :)

xxINKxx
07-14-2010, 5:48 PM
You can get the Glock 17 RTF2 in Ca, basically the same thing, just a lil bigger (not too big though). I prefur it over the 19 since the 19 is still pretty small.

AlliedArmory
07-14-2010, 5:51 PM
Is the G19 even out yet?

Based on the feel of a G17 Gen4, I would say Gen4 forsure.

OneSevenDeuce
07-14-2010, 6:18 PM
Of course I haven't touched the Gen 4, but if I could choose one that is what it would be. I like the idea of an enlarged mag release and interchangeable back straps.

XYZ
07-14-2010, 7:18 PM
I prefer the Gen 4 primarily because the RTF3 isn't as rough as the RTF2.

Greg-Dawg
07-14-2010, 7:48 PM
Gen4 because I have one.

xxINKxx
07-14-2010, 7:56 PM
I've heard the rtf grip it's too "rough"(not that it matters to me), that it sticks to clothing and is therefore not suitable for ccw, is that true?

?

Wouldnt really matter since pretty much noone gets CCW permits ;)

DaveFJ80
07-14-2010, 8:53 PM
Is the G19 even out yet?

Gen 4 G19's are out. I held one last week when I was in Dallas but didn't have a chance to shoot it (I will in a couple of weeks when I'm back out there, and I'll take my Gen 3 G19 with me to do a side by side comparason).

There's lots of pics of them over on Glock Talk, and IMO it's much nicer feeling than the Gen 3 RTF G19.

ty423
07-14-2010, 8:55 PM
Wouldnt really matter since pretty much noone gets CCW permits ;)

I have one.. non military non LEO non competition shooter non everything except a restaurant owner. and I'm not in the middle of no where but the county of Orange. Population of 3million + I can choose 3 weapons and one of them is a G23 Gen3

xxINKxx
07-14-2010, 9:08 PM
I have one.. non military non LEO non competition shooter non everything except a restaurant owner. and I'm not in the middle of no where but the county of Orange. Population of 3million + I can choose 3 weapons and one of them is a G23 Gen3

Lucky. I tried getting one. I own my own business selling cars and carry alot of cash to the bank every single day in not that great of areas (often 20k at a time) and deal with alot of sketchy people. (cant conceal a gun outside my office) Basically they said since ive never been physically shot down and robbed at gun point yet, or been car jacked while giving a test ride that I dont need one. Damn OC....Wish Bill Hunt woulda got elected, our family is personal friends with him. He said hed get us CCW's if he got elected.

:chris:

BenjaminCA
07-14-2010, 9:31 PM
I have done a side by side test with the Gen 3 Glock 17 and the Gen 4 Glock 17. I was able to shoot the Gen 4 better right out the gate, grip being the major difference. Having never shot a G17, putting 50 rounds downrange with each gun, I shot the Gen 4 better. I am now buying a RTF G17 because I like the grip so much but can't afford or find a Gen 4. I plan on shooting IDPA with it. To each his own when it comes to guns but my major gripe with glocks was the lack of grip and my hand feeling like it was slipping, with the RTF and Gen 4 grip I don't feel that whatsoever.

tbhracing
07-14-2010, 9:51 PM
I've heard the rtf grip it's too "rough"(not that it matters to me), that it sticks to clothing and is therefore not suitable for ccw, is that true?



I dont know, but it feels good in my hand.

sirgiles
07-14-2010, 9:59 PM
rtf rips my shirt.

Jimmy310
07-14-2010, 10:04 PM
Id love a G19 with a OD frame
http://www.tropicalfirearms.com/images/Glock_19OD_04.jpg

hunteran
07-14-2010, 10:48 PM
So I have a question, the glock 19 rtf isn't on the roster, how are you guys getting them? I'm genuinely curious because I'm buying a glock 19 from a friend who lives in Az and I need to make sure I have my "i"s dotted and my "t"s crossed.

RollingCode3
07-15-2010, 1:42 AM
I dont know what you guys talking about but i bought my Glock 19 RTF2 from Field Time Sport and Gun in Westminster last month. And yes, it is on the roster

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v105/cadetcode3/guns/IMG_0465.jpg

xxINKxx
07-15-2010, 11:54 AM
I dont know what you guys talking about but i bought my Glock 19 RTF2 from Field Time Sport and Gun in Westminster last month. And yes, it is on the roster


Where on the roster? Did it expire? Only the G17 RTF2 and G22 RTF2 are listed currently.

http://certguns.doj.ca.gov/safeguns_resp.asp

thefinnatic
07-15-2010, 6:15 PM
I dont know what you guys talking about but i bought my Glock 19 RTF2 from Field Time Sport and Gun in Westminster last month. And yes, it is on the roster

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v105/cadetcode3/guns/IMG_0465.jpg

I saw those there too. The texture is definitely rough. These weren't gen4 though. They were like the RTF2 version, but without the fish gills.

evidens83
08-01-2010, 8:51 PM
Looks alone, I'd go with the gen 4.

Oldnoob
08-01-2010, 9:57 PM
I don't care about either but Gen 4's sticky grip doesn't go up to thumb rest area, so it got my vote.

Standard 3rd Gen Glock are the best.

Pryde
08-01-2010, 10:08 PM
I saw and held a Gen4 G19 at a local gunstore last week, but decided against the purchase because I like my Gen2 G19 better.

The recoil spring system on the Gen 4 is also unproven and many people have been having excessive slide velocity issues in Gen4 G17s causing FTF with older glock mags or mags with weak springs.

Alexjr1967
08-01-2010, 10:16 PM
Gen. 4 sounds like $ to me

cmaynes
08-01-2010, 10:33 PM
my biggest concern with the Gen4 Glocks would be durability- the multi-piece grip is not as sturdy as the earlier versions.

The RTF is nice, but my Gen3's are quite satisfactory as well for me.

Just-in
08-01-2010, 10:36 PM
I ended up putting a hogue grip on my RTF2 G17. After a long range session I found the texture a little uncomfortable. If you ever bang the handle on anything the pyramids dull easily. If I could do it again I'd stick with the regular texture I think it will hold up better in the long run.

ZRT650
08-01-2010, 10:40 PM
Yeah I dont know if the doj has failed to update their listed roster but they have the rtf G19's at Bay Area Gun Vault in the Bay Area. I was doing a PPT about a month ago and I saw not only a man picking one up but also one in the case.

HCz
08-01-2010, 11:38 PM
I prefer the Gen 4 primarily because the RTF3 isn't as rough as the RTF2.

Same here.