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daskraut
04-15-2006, 7:42 AM
I have a semi auto .223 AK that is registered (in 92) and want to do a collapsable stock (not folding) and a bunch of bub accesories, what are my limits if any?

bwiese
04-15-2006, 10:15 AM
Since you have a registered assault weapon, you can add, change and/or delete evil features at will. You are welcome to put on a folding stock.

glen avon
04-15-2006, 10:31 AM
for now.

I would not wait.

daskraut
04-15-2006, 9:40 PM
Gotcha!. Gunna bug you guys with questions now....thanks. DK:p

50 Freak
04-16-2006, 1:10 AM
I have a semi auto .223 AK that is registered (in 92) and want to do a collapsable stock (not folding) and a bunch of bub accesories, what are my limits if any?

When you said you had a registered AK in 92, do you mean that is when you bought it and filled out a 4473?

Did you also register it as an AW in 2000? If not, you have an unregistered AW and should either move/sell it out of state or turn it in.

xenophobe
04-16-2006, 11:34 AM
That's just what I was going to ask...

bwiese
04-16-2006, 11:45 AM
Good catch guys.

I'm dim on this situation, but wasn't there some sorta thing in the early days that if you were busted for a 1st unreg'd AW violation you could pay a fine and register it? Maybe that's the case.

There's a few dozen new AW regs [not permits!] every year in the 1990s (if the DOJ AW stats are believed) and I think this situation is where these come from...

bwiese
04-16-2006, 11:46 AM
Good catch guys.

I'm dim on this situation, but wasn't there some sorta thing in the early days that if you were busted for a 1st unreg'd AW violation you could pay a fine and register it? Maybe that's the case.

There's a few dozen new AW regs [not permits!] every year in the 1990s (if the DOJ AW stats are believed) and I think this situation is where these come from...

Or maybe the O.P. just got 90 vs 91 or 92 confused.

Muzz
04-17-2006, 8:50 AM
Good catch guys.

There's a few dozen new AW regs [not permits!] every year in the 1990s (if the DOJ AW stats are believed) and I think this situation is where these come from...

Or maybe the O.P. just got 90 vs 91 or 92 confused.

Could someone please elaborate? Thanks.

bwiese
04-17-2006, 9:29 AM
Could someone please elaborate? Thanks.

I dimly recall (possibly incorrectly) that people busted in the 90s for unreg'd AW possession 1st offense could do something like pay fine and register the gun - 1st violation may've been an infraction, not sure.

I have no way of tracking when this stopped and when the law changed because this is not currently part of Penal Code - if you get popped w/unreg'd AW now (and no associated transport, imporation, mfg, etc. charges) at best you lose the gun.

Whatever it was, it doesn't apply now.

daskraut
04-17-2006, 6:28 PM
Ok kids, heres the deal. bought it in 88, registered it in 92.....twice!, first reg was not on the hard card , but on paper, so they sent another card and I filled it out AGAIN and sent it in. I forgot about it after that as the whole thing left me a little paranoid. The gun sat for years till I found this site and asked what I should do about NEVER getting my card/ letter, you guys said call 'em up and ask for it, so I did!. A week later after sending copies of all my saved paperwork, I got it.......saturday in fact, and I went to angeles sunday and put a hundred plus rounds thru it and felt GREAT!!!. and of course since I had a copy of my letter with me, nobody asked to see it!.I wonder how often a cop or agent asks when you are at the range?.It was so damn good to shoot that bad boy after so many years in the closet!.Now I want to bub the hell out of it!.:eek:

glen avon
04-17-2006, 6:56 PM
please don't bubba that thing.

blkA4alb
04-17-2006, 7:30 PM
keep it classic, its scarier :)

JamesY
04-17-2006, 7:37 PM
leave it as is. to me, an AK with an AR stock just looks plain wrong... but to each their own i guess.

daskraut
04-18-2006, 1:48 AM
I hear your pleas to not bub, but remember, it just bolts on, which means it un-bolts.......no welding or cutting, esp after seeing what these go for on gunbroker!, which I still don't understand...is it cuz it's .223, or cuz it's a real commie pre-ban?.

glen avon
04-18-2006, 7:14 AM
it's a real commie pre-ban. also, not everything just bolts on to an AK.

daskraut
04-18-2006, 8:39 PM
The stuff I like will not require cutting or welding, hence the term "bolt-on".:p

icormba
04-19-2006, 6:53 PM
The stuff I like will not require cutting or welding, hence the term "bolt-on".:p

I'm curious!! .223? What make is this? What country? Who was the importer? All this should say on the rifle.

I'm not asking to be a smart ***** or anything... I'm just really curious because I have a thing for Cold War & Eastern Block weaponry.

glen avon
04-19-2006, 7:32 PM
norinco and poly both had AKs in .223. even MAK-90s.

glen avon
04-19-2006, 7:34 PM
The stuff I like will not require cutting or welding, hence the term "bolt-on".:p

the rear trunnion is riveted in, can't just pop it out, the rivets are swell-neck rivets.

the scope rail on the side must be riveted on.

please don't bubba that thing, think of the children...

icormba
04-20-2006, 11:36 AM
norinco and poly both had AKs in .223. even MAK-90s.

Some Yugos, Romanians and Israelis(Galil in 5.56) are made in .223 also. I was just curious as to what his particular make was.

uzigalil
04-20-2006, 11:57 AM
Dont forget my Valmet 76 in .223 and yes it is registered.

daskraut
04-23-2006, 12:22 AM
Tis a norinco!., and she loves wolf ammo!.

Ford8N
04-23-2006, 5:36 AM
The stuff I like will not require cutting or welding, hence the term "bolt-on".:p


Do not drill any holes.

That would be a very costly mistake. Your $1000 dollar AK would quicky become a $350 WASR.

xenophobe
04-23-2006, 11:20 AM
Dont forget my Valmet 76 in .223 and yes it is registered.

My M76 is one of my most fun shooting rifles around...