View Full Version : Asked DOJ a question on how to add to the C & R list

07-14-2010, 7:22 AM
Here is the response:
This is in follow-up to your recent email to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), in which you inquire about the procedure for adding a firearm to ATF’s Curio or Relic (C&R) List. Your message was forwarded to the Firearms Technology Brach (FTB) for reply.

As set out in the regulations (27 CFR 478.11), curios or relics include firearms which are of special interest to collectors by reason of some quality other than is associated with firearms intended for sporting use or as offensive or defensive weapons. To be recognized as curios or relics, firearms must fall within one of the following categories:

1.) Firearms which were manufactured at least 50 years prior to the current date, but not including replicas thereof;

2.) Firearms which are certified by the curator of a municipal, State, or Federal museum which exhibits firearms to be curios or relics of museum interest; and

3.) Any other firearms which derive a substantial part of their monetary value from the fact that they are novel, rare, bizarre, or because of their association with some historical figure, period, or event. Proof of qualification of a particular firearm under this category may be established by evidence of present value and evidence that like firearms are not available except as collector’s items, or that the value of like firearms available in ordinary commercial channels is substantially less.

Collectors/individuals desiring to obtain a determination as to whether a particular firearm qualifies for classification as a curio or relic in accordance with 27 CFR 478.11 and 478.26 or a collector's item in accordance with § 479.25 and § 479.24 should submit a written request for a ruling. The letter should include:

1.) A complete physical description of the item;

2.) Reasons the collector believes the item merits the classification; and

3.) Data concerning the history of the item, including production figures, if available, and market value.

As stated in the regulations, submission of the firearm may be required prior to a determination being made. Please submit your request to:

Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives
Firearms Technology Branch
244 Needy Road
Martinsburg, WV 25405

I was thinking of the Smith & Wesson model 52 target pistol. (A 38 special rimmed brass wad cutter round semi-auto with a 5 round clip)

I've since learned that the pistol is on California's "Olympic Pistol" exemption but the exemption only lists the 52 and not the 52-1 or 52-2. Knowing how the DOJ is sticklers for "Not-Unsafe" I asked the DOJ if subsequent revisions of a pistol are exempt or only the model # listed. :TFH:

I wonder if maybe one of those odd Italian semi auto revolvers or low barrel revolvers are odd enough? :D

07-14-2010, 9:14 AM
Thanks for posting this. There are two rifles that I am now going to submit for C&R approval. Both of these rifles were made in the 1990s but I believe they have a strong chance of qualifying.

FYI, maybe this should be put in the C&R forum?