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windrider
07-08-2010, 12:27 PM
if it does does anyone know how to turn it to the "only show gps location for 911 calls" setting, I hate to think anyone with a credit card and a internet connection will be able to find my exact location

Corbin Dallas
07-08-2010, 12:55 PM
if it does does anyone know how to turn it to the "only show gps location for 911 calls" setting, I hate to think anyone with a credit card and a internet connection will be able to find my exact location

I think you're being a bit paranoid as it takes a LOT more than just ANYONE with a credit card and an internet connection to know where YOU are.

First off, they would need to know your MEID, MAC and APN settings.


Then, they would need permission by YOU, or hack the network to locate your phone through many different means.


However, you can subscribe to a service such as accutrack, mobile locator, or find me. With this service anyone who knows your unique ID can locate you, but again, this is user initiated.

So, tracking by GPS from some random person? Not likely. Besides, if big brother want's to know exactly where you are and have been they need only triangulate your cell phone through the cell sites. This information can tell them where you have been for the last XXX amount of days (depends on the network) and where you currently are. Of course, if your phone is turned off, there is no information.

My suggestion? Get a disposable phone and pay cash.

JDay
07-08-2010, 2:33 PM
My suggestion? Get a disposable phone and pay cash.

There is currently a federal bill being pushed that will end the days of anonymous prepaid cell phones should it pass.

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/05/senators-call-for-end-of-anonymous-prepaid-cell-phones.ars

Senators Charles Schumer (D-NY) and John Cornyn (R-TX) joined forces and announced a new bill that would require an ID at the point of sale. Phone companies would need to keep this information on file in order to help police thwart "terrorists, drug lords and gang members," along with the occasional hedge fund manager.

http://schumer.senate.gov/new_website/record.cfm?id=325263

WASHINGTON, DC—U.S. Senators Charles E. Schumer (D-NY) and John Cornyn (R-TX) announced first-of-its-kind federal legislation Wednesday that would help stop terrorists like the Times Square bomber from keeping their identities hidden from law enforcement by using prepaid cell phones to plot and coordinate their attacks. Under the new proposal, buyers of prepaid cell phones would be required to present identification at the point of sale, and phone companies would have to keep the buyers’ information on file as they already do with users of landline phones and subscription-based cell phones.

“This proposal is overdue because for years, terrorists, drug kingpins and gang members have stayed one step ahead of the law by using prepaid phones that are hard to trace. We caught a break in catching the Times Square terrorist, but usually a prepaid cell phone is a dead end for law enforcement. There’s no reason why it should still be this easy for terror plotters to cover their tracks,” Schumer said.

“Weeks ago, we came alarmingly close to a devastating terrorist attack in Times Square. A major lesson we’ve learned from the investigation and arrest of Faisal Shahzad is that we must require individuals purchasing a pre-paid cell phone in this country to provide verified indentifying information. While most Americans use pre-paid mobile devices lawfully, the anonymous nature of these devices gives too much cover to individuals looking to use them for deviant, dangerous means. It would be foolish to stand idly by while the risk remains that another terrorist or criminal could purchase a pre-paid phone leaving no paper trail. I was pleased to work with Sen. Schumer on this important legislation, which sends a clear message that those who purchase pre-paid mobile devices will no longer remain anonymous,” Cornyn said.

Although there are many legitimate users of prepaid cell phones, they have also become the communication device of choice for terrorists, drug lords and gang members interested in masking their identities. Since they can purchased and activated without signing a contract or undergoing a credit check, prepaid cell phones provide virtual anonymity.

Faisal Shahzad, the 30-year-old suspect in the Times Square terror plot, used a prepaid cell phone to arrange the purchase of the Nissan Pathfinder that he attempted to turn into a car bomb. He also used the phone to make a series of calls to Pakistan in the days leading up to the attack. Federal authorities were later able to track down Shahzad, but only thanks to a break: a number listed in the phone’s call log matched one provided to U.S. Customs officials when Shahzad reentered the U.S. from Pakistan months earlier. But for that stroke of luck, authorities might never have been able to match the phone number provided by the seller of the Pathfinder to Shahzad.

It is not new for terrorists to rely on prepaid cell phones. The 9/11 hijackers used them to communicate in the months prior to their attack. In a speech in 2002, FBI Director Robert Mueller cited the plotters’ use of the devices to show that they “managed to exploit loopholes and vulnerabilities in our systems, to stay out of sight, and to not let anyone know what they were up to beyond a very closed circle.”

Prepaid cell phones have also been used as detonation devices for bombs, as was the case in the attack on a Madrid train that killed 191 people in Spain in 2004.

In 2006, a wave of suspicious bulk purchases of prepaid cell phones led the FBI and Department of Homeland Security to issue a nationwide bulletin to local police calling attention to the trend and pointing out the potential links to terrorist activity. Stores such as Wal-Mart implemented policies limiting how many prepaid devices customers could purchase in a single visit.

In addition to terrorism cases, prepaid phones have long been used by other types of criminals, like drug sellers, mob figures and gang leaders. In 2009, they were even used by hedge fund managers and Wall Street executives implicated in the largest insider trading bust in U.S. history. In court papers, federal prosecutors detailed how traders from the Galleon Group hedge fund communicated with other executives through prepaid phones in order to try to evade potential wiretaps. In one instance, one suspect is described as having chewed the Subscriber Identity Module, or SIM card, until it snapped in half in order to destroy possible evidence.

Countries such as Australia, Germany, Indonesia, Japan, Malaysia, Norway, Singapore, South Africa, Switzerland, and Thailand already require registration of prepaid cell phone users due mainly to their use by terrorists.

In the U.S., laws requiring registration of prepaid cell phone users have been proposed in states including Texas, Massachusetts, Pennsylvania, Missouri, Georgia and South Carolina. But in light of the increased reliance of terrorists on the devices, Schumer and Cornyn said Wednesday it was time for a federal response.

windrider
07-08-2010, 3:56 PM
I think you're being a bit paranoid as it takes a LOT more than just ANYONE with a credit card and an internet connection to know where YOU are.

First off, they would need to know your MEID, MAC and APN settings.


Then, they would need permission by YOU, or hack the network to locate your phone through many different means.


However, you can subscribe to a service such as accutrack, mobile locator, or find me. With this service anyone who knows your unique ID can locate you, but again, this is user initiated.

So, tracking by GPS from some random person? Not likely. Besides, if big brother want's to know exactly where you are and have been they need only triangulate your cell phone through the cell sites. This information can tell them where you have been for the last XXX amount of days (depends on the network) and where you currently are. Of course, if your phone is turned off, there is no information.

My suggestion? Get a disposable phone and pay cash.

A simple google search you would see that there are plenty of websites that give out your gps location for a small fee that work very well if your phone is constantly sending a gps location, some smart phones do, its not big brother im worried about, so if you know if the htc evo does do this and if the settings could be changed and you know how to then enlighten me.

JDay
07-08-2010, 4:07 PM
A simple google search you would see that there are plenty of websites that give out your gps location for a small fee that work very well if your phone is constantly sending a gps location, some smart phones do, its not big brother im worried about, so if you know if the htc evo does do this and if the settings could be changed and you know how to then enlighten me.

You are gullible, there is no way that any website can just grab the GPS location off of someones phone. Try this site with you phone number, its free. The services you see online require you to install software on the phone to allow the tracking. There are many similar free solutions in the Market that allow you to do this for free so you can find a lost/stolen phone or keep track of your kids.

http://www.themobiletracker.com/english/index.html

Corbin Dallas
07-08-2010, 5:16 PM
A simple google search you would see that there are plenty of websites that give out your gps location for a small fee that work very well if your phone is constantly sending a gps location, some smart phones do, its not big brother im worried about, so if you know if the htc evo does do this and if the settings could be changed and you know how to then enlighten me.

I'm sorry but those sites are wrong. I worked in the industry and I can tell you it takes a LOT more than just some website and a phone.


Have you read the entire manual for the HTC EVO? I'm sure there is some way to disable the GPS, but you will NOT be able to disable the GPS for 911 calls.

Try Page 30 in your manual. It's called "Location"


Note: Turning Location on will allow the network to detect your position using GPS technology, making some Sprint
applications and services easier to use. Turning Location off will disable the GPS location function for all purposes
except 911, but will not hide your general location based on the cell site serving your call. No application or service
may use your location without your request or permission. GPS-enhanced 911 is not available in all areas.

windrider
07-08-2010, 5:52 PM
Try Page 30 in your manual. It's called "Location"

cool thanks

Sinixstar
07-08-2010, 6:03 PM
A simple google search you would see that there are plenty of websites that give out your gps location for a small fee that work very well if your phone is constantly sending a gps location, some smart phones do, its not big brother im worried about, so if you know if the htc evo does do this and if the settings could be changed and you know how to then enlighten me.


A simple google search will land you on my personal website.
A personal website where I happen to have a certain bridge in a certain NY city for sale.

Interested?