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TimG
04-12-2006, 4:16 PM
Check your ammo folks...

http://www.turners.com/news/news_recall.html


PRODUCT WARNING AND RECALL NOTICE

FIOCCHI 9MM LUGER 115 GRAIN FMJ

Fiocchi of America, Inc. is recalling several lots of 9mm Luger, 115 grain FMJ ammunition that was imported from Fiocchi Munizioni, Italy.

Through extensive evaluation, Fiocchi Munizioni has determined that the lots listed below may contain defective propellant. The propellant in this ammunition may cause squib loads which could cause firearm damage, and subject the shooter or bystanders to a risk of personal injury when fired.

DO NOT USE FIOCCHI 9mm Luger, 115 grain, FMJ ammunition that has a lot number listed below:

4509222 4510230 4510248 4510256 4511266
4509223 4510241 4510249 4510257 4511267
4509224 4510242 4510250 4510258 4511268
4509225 4510243 4510251 4510259 4511269
4509226 4510244 4510252 4510261 4511270
4509227 4510245 4510253 4511263 4511271
4509228 4510246 4510254 4511264 4511272
4509229 4510247 4510255 4511265 4511276

The ammunition Lot number is stamped inside the box tuck flap.

To determine if your ammunition is subject to this notice, review the Lot Number. If the lot number matches any of the lot numbers listed above, return the ammunition to Fiocchi of America via United Parcel Service (UPS) or FED-EX Ground. Securely pack the ammunition into a corrugated cardboard box, write “CARTRIDGES, SMALL ARMS ORM-D” on the outside, and ship to:

FIOCCHI OF AMERICA, Inc.
ATTN: Recall
6930 N. Fremont Road
Ozark, MO 65721

Replacement ammunition will be shipped to you. Please include a name, address, phone number, and complete shipping address (we cannot ship to post office boxes).

This notice applies only to Fiocchi 9mm, 115 grain FMJ from this list of lot numbers. Other products or lot numbers are not subject to this recall and should not be returned to Fiocchi.

You may contact Fiocchi of America at 800-721-2666 or 800-595-6020.

We apologize for the inconvenience.

CWM4A1
04-12-2006, 4:53 PM
Thanks for the info. No wonder I have so much hang fire from the Fiocchi 9mm ammo.

jester
04-13-2006, 9:30 AM
OR, you could take all these boxes of defective ammo down to the bad part of town and donate it to the local gangbangers.....

ohsmily
04-13-2006, 9:45 AM
Thanks for the info. No wonder I have so much hang fire from the Fiocchi 9mm ammo.

Bad propellant (or no propellant) doesn't cause a "hangfire", it causes squibs. The primer will detonate but the powder might not burn. This will usually cause the bullet to become lodged some way down the barrel just from the power of the primer. This can be dangerous if the operator doesn't realize what happened, ejects the spent casing, and then chambers a new round and fires. Then the fired bullet will hit the lodged bullet in the barrel. This can cause the barrel and slide to break apart and fragment.

leelaw
04-13-2006, 11:12 AM
Stopped my heart for a second. My batch is 43xxxxx so according to the notice, I should be OK.

vtecteg4u
04-13-2006, 1:01 PM
Nice, I have 4 boxes with those lot numbers:(

ohsmily
04-13-2006, 1:49 PM
Nice, I have 4 boxes with those lot numbers:(

Sending it back sounds like alot of trouble and you pay for shipping.

Instead, just mark the boxes with a marker or pen or something CONSPICUOUSLY so you will remember, and when you shoot those rounds, be ALERT FOR SQUIBS! Meaning, if you pull the trigger on a round and it doesn't seem to go off (like a dud). Open the action and CHECK THE CASE!!! If you notice an empty case with a struck primer and NO BULLET, then THERE IS PROBABLY A BULLET IN YOUR BARREL! All you have to do is put a cleaning rod in the breach of the barrel (after insuring your gun is unloaded) and smack the round out of the barrel back toward the chamber). Voila.

BE CAREFUL!

CWM4A1
04-13-2006, 2:24 PM
Bad propellant (or no propellant) doesn't cause a "hangfire", it causes squibs. The primer will detonate but the powder might not burn. This will usually cause the bullet to become lodged some way down the barrel just from the power of the primer. This can be dangerous if the operator doesn't realize what happened, ejects the spent casing, and then chambers a new round and fires. Then the fired bullet will hit the lodged bullet in the barrel. This can cause the barrel and slide to break apart and fragment.

Actually, I experienced both. Few squib loads that cause the bullet to lodge in the barrel, and many more loads (about 5%) that have about 1 sec hang fire. I can feel particles and gas blowing back at me. Always check barrel afterward and bullet under this circumstance does leave barrel. Manage to pull all components apart and load with known good powder and primer. Didn't receive this notice until I am done shooting all 2K (what a pain in the butt) that I purchased. Right now, WWB from Wal-Mart all the way.

aca72
04-13-2006, 2:42 PM
Sending it back sounds like alot of trouble and you pay for shipping.


Call Fiocchi, they will send you a box for the return.

NRAhighpowershooter
04-13-2006, 5:33 PM
CRAP!! I have 4K of this ammo.. now to search through 4 50cal ammo cans and look at all the lot numbers!! :mad:

vtecteg4u
04-13-2006, 8:13 PM
CRAP!! I have 4K of this ammo.. now to search through 4 50cal ammo cans and look at all the lot numbers!! :mad:
If you read the memo it says it only applies to 9mm 115 grain ONLY

vtecteg4u
04-13-2006, 8:14 PM
Sending it back sounds like alot of trouble and you pay for shipping.

Instead, just mark the boxes with a marker or pen or something CONSPICUOUSLY so you will remember, and when you shoot those rounds, be ALERT FOR SQUIBS! Meaning, if you pull the trigger on a round and it doesn't seem to go off (like a dud). Open the action and CHECK THE CASE!!! If you notice an empty case with a struck primer and NO BULLET, then THERE IS PROBABLY A BULLET IN YOUR BARREL! All you have to do is put a cleaning rod in the breach of the barrel (after insuring your gun is unloaded) and smack the round out of the barrel back toward the chamber). Voila.

BE CAREFUL!


Yeah, I would rather not take the chance though. My gf goes shooting with me sometimes and thats the last thing I need is for the gun to blow up in her hand

NRAhighpowershooter
04-13-2006, 10:11 PM
If you read the memo it says it only applies to 9mm 115 grain ONLY

Yup.. I read it.. the 4K IS my blasting/plinking ammo for my G17 and yes it's all 115gr FMJ I have another 2K of heavier stuff...

qualityrockola
04-14-2006, 6:27 AM
i have about 2k of 431xxxx. i dunno if that is a good thing or bad thing... i was kinda hoping to send mine back. my S&W sigma thinks the primers are too hard and I get a lot of light primer strikes. I havent had any problems with other brands of 9mm and maybe newer fiocchi has softer primers. oh well, i guess im stuck with it.

Sundowner
04-14-2006, 9:03 AM
Does anybody know what the date(s) of manufacture of this ammo is(are)? I bought 1K rounds of Fiocchi 9mm 115gr a few years ago but put the cartridges in an ammo can and threw away the boxes so I can't check the lot numbers.

Evil Gun
04-14-2006, 5:19 PM
If you read the memo it says it only applies to 9mm 115 grain ONLY
Whew! <wipes brow> I have the 147gr.

MidnightSon117
04-17-2006, 6:25 PM
Be careful with this batch, we recently had a rental Ruger PC9 go out before we got wind of the recall of this ammo, and the damage from firing after the squib is enough to wreck a PC9