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snedigity
04-10-2006, 3:34 PM
I am having a heck of a time finding anywhere in central Califronia to buy Federal XM193 ammo. Any help would be appreciated.

Ryan HBC
04-10-2006, 7:55 PM
The federal XM193 Lake City is nearly impossible to come by right now.

However, you can get Winchester Q3131. It is also 5.56 USA made 55gr NATO spec m193 ammo, and I have no reason to believe it isn't every bit as good as the xm193. Not quite as much hipe as the Federal, that's for sure.

I picked up 1000 rounds 2 weeks ago from http://www.the-armory.com. I paid $224.99, but I just checked the site and the price has gone up to $244.99. Hey, at least it is in stock.

Still, at $5.29 a box it is a steal compared to the exact same thing at $5.99 + tax at Turners.

Dump1567
04-10-2006, 8:19 PM
Check here:
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=16&t=222888
and here:
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=16&t=274617

DHiggmo
04-10-2006, 8:46 PM
Try this http://www.ammoman.com/index.htm:)

berg
04-10-2006, 9:42 PM
For a list of online suppliers just go here: http://froogle.google.com/ and type in "xm193" There are still several places that sell it.

Ratters
04-10-2006, 10:00 PM
I prefer the Q3131 myself, but if you are set on xm193 make sure you don't get the "pd" loose packed stuff. I have some and you have to really sort through it to get rid of the crap stuff. Winchester is always nice and pretty. :)

Jicko
04-10-2006, 11:54 PM
The federal XM193 Lake City is nearly impossible to come by right now.

Not really, I just walked into a local store 3 days ago, and bought 2 cases of 500 rounds. $95/500, good price, great ammo. These are the real deal, not the PD pack loose stuff.

California Police Eq. down here in San Diego.

Jon
04-11-2006, 12:43 AM
Not really, I just walked into a local store 3 days ago, and bought 2 cases of 500 rounds. $95/500, good price, great ammo. These are the real deal, not the PD pack loose stuff.

California Police Eq. down here in San Diego.

I'm headed down to SD at the end of next month, I hope they have some left!

jp.cherokee
04-11-2006, 12:01 PM
The San Diego Police Equipment shop only had 760 rounds left for sale to the public, I bought them all... They had 4000 rounds set aside for the SDPD. I was drooling for them.

antarius
04-11-2006, 5:56 PM
What is "boat tail?"

Sorry I'm a newb.

ligamentum flavum
04-11-2006, 6:11 PM
What is "boat tail?"

Sorry I'm a newb.

the base of the bullet has a slight narrowing taper.

glen avon
04-11-2006, 6:19 PM
no need to be so stern in your response....

antarius
04-11-2006, 6:44 PM
the base of the bullet has a slight narrowing taper.
What's the benefit of boat-tail? Does it provide easier extraction or something?

toolman9000
04-11-2006, 7:04 PM
What's the benefit of boat-tail? Does it provide easier extraction or something?

Please read this: http://www.ammo-oracle.com/body.htm


Great Information for all of your .223/5.56x45 questions...

-toolman9000

BigAL
04-11-2006, 7:20 PM
What's the benefit of boat-tail? Does it provide easier extraction or something?

No the bullet construction has no impact on case extraction.

Copied and pasted from Speer.

"The boat tail design was conceived to reduce the aerodynamic drag on the bullet. Every object moving through air has a low-pressure zone behind it that contributes to drag. The boat tail design has a smaller base surface area and thus is less affected by the drag-inducing low-pressure zone.

Boat tail bullets have an advantage at the point, normally very distant, when the bullet transitions from supersonic to subsonic velocity. This transonic zone causes any flying object to suffer buffeting until true subsonic veolocities are reached. The boat tail is less affected and thereforehas the higher potential for accuracy at extreme ranges.

In the "real world," the beneficial ballistics effects of the boat tail design do not appear until the bullet is more than 300 yards from the muzzle, depending on launch velocity and ballistic coefficient. We compared the path of boat tail and flat base 30 caliber 165 grain bullets. Both types were launched at 2800 ft/sec, typical 30-06 velocities. At 500 yards, the boat tail showed a 5 percent advantage in velocity, a 10 percent advantage in energy, and hit the target only 2.2 inches above the flat base."

ligamentum flavum
04-11-2006, 8:01 PM
no need to be so stern in your response....

are you referring to my post?

glen avon
04-11-2006, 8:07 PM
Not really, I just walked into a local store 3 days ago, and bought 2 cases of 500 rounds. $95/500, good price, great ammo. These are the real deal, not the PD pack loose stuff.

California Police Eq. down here in San Diego.

but all federal XM ammo is non-mil-spec factory rejects.

antarius
04-12-2006, 4:50 AM
No the bullet construction has no impact on case extraction.

......

I misread, thought he was speaking of the round, not just the bullet itself.

Anyway, thanks for the information!

glen avon
04-12-2006, 8:15 AM
are you referring to my post?

of course. stern ... boat tail ... get it? ;)

you may now bow to my greatness.

C.G.
04-12-2006, 5:02 PM
of course. stern ... boat tail ... get it? ;)

you may now bow to my greatness.

Landlubber.:D

NRAhighpowershooter
04-12-2006, 5:08 PM
Har har me maties!! :cool: