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Dump1567
04-09-2006, 5:17 PM
Does anyone know if it's legal to buy smoke grenades? I've searched the Penal Code and the other code (forgot which one) and can't find anything specific. I've read some sections that might apply, but was looking for someone who has dealt with this. I know other states allow them. This may fall under local ordnances that deal with fireworks (smoke pots,etc). I'm not looking for "I think", or "my aunts brothers cousin knows someone who (fill in the blank):rolleyes: ". I looking for some facts on this issue. Thanks.

Patrick Aherne
04-10-2006, 12:09 AM
It's a felony; destructive device. I don't have the section right now, but you'll get a set of bracelets + three hots and cot for possession.

Jarhead4
04-10-2006, 12:21 AM
Smoke granades are not a distructive device, and I can not find a listing for them in the penal code.

socalguns
04-10-2006, 2:36 AM
BANG illegal, smoke OK :)

As long as there is no explosion, its legal

NeoWeird
04-10-2006, 6:34 AM
I looked into this a while ago and one of the things I found was that if an explosive charge is used in any way, then it is a destructive device. Also, there was something about emitting cheimcals (I think it had to do with those pepperspary grenades).

I believe the final "answer" that I got was that pretty much if you pull a pin it's against the law, and if it's launched from a launcher it has to be smaller than the state maximum, and there may be even further restrictions based on location, type of smoke signal, etc.

Also, I have yet to find an online retailer that will ship or sell anything along those lines here, and finding local ones is just as hard. Good luck. Someone I think suggested marine/boating stores as most often our larger bore projectiles are used as signals for boats.

Wish I could be more help, but I can't remember the specifics as it all seemed like more trouble than I needed to just have a novelty 'toy'

Rumpled
04-10-2006, 8:56 AM
I don't know about the legality, but I know you can annoy a lot of people with one.
About 10 years ago, a Marine buddy of mine let loose one at Lost Isle in the Delta; the whole place was enshrouded for about 15 minutes.
Interesting to watch from the roof of the houseboat with a cold one in hand.

xj4play
04-10-2006, 9:40 AM
Dont know the legality of smoke grenades but i know mcmaster sells a smoke candle that last 3 min and emmits 40,000 sq ft. They are commonly used to test for leaks in duct work.

glen avon
04-10-2006, 10:28 AM
Does anyone know ... I'm not looking for "I think", or "my aunts brothers cousin knows someone who (fill in the blank):rolleyes: ". I looking for some facts on this issue. Thanks.

well then, donate $20 to calguns.net and I will get you facts with references.

if you want a free answer, well, beggars can't really be choosers can they? at least, I think that's what my aunts brothers cousin told someone who (fill in the blank).

ajwells
04-10-2006, 2:32 PM
BANG illegal, smoke OK :)

As long as there is no explosion, its legal


So than Flash-Bangs would be illegal as well I take it? I don't know the mechanics of them so I'm not sure if there is an actual explosion or not.

bwiese
04-10-2006, 2:38 PM
I haven't seen smoke grenades in CA since 1986-87ish time frame.

The late, great "Arms & Ammo" store in San Bruno sold canister-like devices (not as big as a soup can, but larger than the smaller V8 juice cans) that had some kind of ringed pull-pin on them - can't remember if they had a grenade-like lever on them or not.

These may've been at H&H in Redwood City at about that time frame too - my memory's unclear.

Since then I haven't seen them anywhere else, incl at gunshows (Reno included).

Nak
04-10-2006, 4:09 PM
Why do you need smoke grenades?

tpliquid1
04-10-2006, 4:19 PM
Why do you need smoke grenades?

why do you need guns?:D

PanzerAce
04-10-2006, 4:23 PM
Why do you need smoke grenades?

well, I would get some, specially if I do end up sailing from hawaii to SF this summer. Sure, the boats going to have flares and the like, but I would also like to have a back pack. It would also be useful for hikers to have.

Nak
04-10-2006, 4:25 PM
http://www.orionsignals.com/index.html

This may suit you better...

tpliquid1: I agree, I would love to own some flashbangs for the neighbors upstairs, but had to ask why to find an alternative for him if possible.

UberPhLuBB
04-10-2006, 4:43 PM
Why do you need smoke grenades?

Why do you need an AR-15? No honest man needs a magazine greater than 10 rounds. What are you going to do with all that ammo, start a war?

Wumpscut223
04-10-2006, 4:47 PM
I used to buy mine at the local paintball shop. You may want to check at paintball/airsoft stores.

ajwells
04-10-2006, 4:50 PM
What are you going to do with all that ammo, start a war?

Hush hush... we don't say it out loud.

-- Joking, don't need people kicking down my door tonight. --

EBWhite
04-10-2006, 5:14 PM
anyone know who sells these, google did not come up with these

sohijiro
04-10-2006, 5:23 PM
smoke grenades are cool, i wish i had some when i played paintball or airsoft,


they might be a little fire hazard though.

blkA4alb
04-10-2006, 7:12 PM
heres some but they are out of stock, http://www.keepshooting.com/militarysurplus/flares/smoke_flares_surplus.htm
heres another http://www.tacticalpaintballgear.com/paintsmoke.html
and heres what looks like the best and coolest:D http://www.prostarsports.net/smoke.htm

all i did was search smoke grenade, why can't you find them? i did.

filefish
04-10-2006, 7:49 PM
[QUOTE=blkA4alb]
and heres what looks like the best and coolest:D http://www.prostarsports.net/smoke.htm [QUOTE]


hmmmm how about a group buy..ends up under $30 each

Dump1567
04-10-2006, 7:50 PM
This Thread below got me thinking:
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=6&f=10&t=197044
I'm sure I can get my hands on some, but I don't want them if they're illegal in CA (as most things are).

m1371
04-10-2006, 10:26 PM
So than Flash-Bangs would be illegal as well I take it? I don't know the mechanics of them so I'm not sure if there is an actual explosion or not.

I'd say that a flashbang would also be classified as a destructive device. In my experience with them, the "bang" part is an explosion. :eek:


smoke grenades are cool, i wish i had some when i played paintball or airsoft,


they might be a little fire hazard though.

Military-issue smoke (and CS) grenades will pose a fire hazard. The method of ignition is pyrotechnic and there is usually a jet of flame coming from one end of the grenade while it is producing smoke. They also get hot as f^ck if you hold them, definite burn hazard.

Just something to be aware of.....

Jicko
04-11-2006, 12:23 AM
http://www.prostarsports.net/smoke.htm

"25,000 cubic feet of smoke in 20 seconds"

This basically means it can fill a 2000 sq ft house with a 10 ft ceiling with smoke in 20 sec? This is WAY COOL......

blkA4alb
04-11-2006, 12:42 AM
"25,000 cubic feet of smoke in 20 seconds"

This basically means it can fill a 2000 sq ft house with a 10 ft ceiling with smoke in 20 sec? This is WAY COOL......
Very, and to think all it took was typing smoke grenade in yahoo, the next thing we need are thermal sights to add to our tacticool ARs for house clearing in the smoke :D , http://www.ir55.com/specterIR_thermal_weapon_scope.html group buy anyone?

Jicko
04-11-2006, 9:15 AM
Very, and to think all it took was typing smoke grenade in yahoo, the next thing we need are thermal sights to add to our tacticool ARs for house clearing in the smoke :D , http://www.ir55.com/specterIR_thermal_weapon_scope.html group buy anyone?

You would need face mask too....

BTW, I'm interested in a couple(smokenade).... when the wife go hay-wire.... throw smoke and run!!