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natrab
04-07-2006, 9:32 PM
There wasn't too much info available on packing.org, but it looks like there are some CCWs out there. Anyone have one or info on getting one out here?

Also, I live in Santa Cruz, but work in Monterey County (I'm probably in Monterey for at least 1/3rd of the year). I know there's the 90-day CCW, but that seems kind of useless. Is there any way to extend a CCW issues from another county?

shopkeep
04-07-2006, 9:46 PM
As far as I know, Clint Eastwood (former actor and former mayor of Carmel) is the ONLY non-LEO to have a CCW in Monterey. Don't even bother taking any courses or turning any paperwork in unless you're a highly decorated retiring LEO in these counties.

C.G.
04-07-2006, 9:48 PM
There are only about 110 CCWs in Monterey County; mostly LEOs and retired LEOs. Until we get a better Sheriff, good luck.:(

natrab
04-07-2006, 10:27 PM
That sucks. What do you have to do, get shot to get a damn CCW?

bu-bye
04-07-2006, 10:43 PM
I picked up a form once for a CCW in Santa Cruz county. The lady that gave me the form laughed at me and said "You don't really think your going to get one do you?" :mad:

From what I heard there is only 1 non-LEO with a CCW in Santa and he used to be chief of the PD or somthing like that. I don't remember.

linuxgunner
04-07-2006, 10:44 PM
It's further ahead than SF County, which has about 10 permits. It's even better than LA County which has 1600 permits out of a population of 10 million.

What should you do about it? GET A BETTER SHERIFF! Vote in this election. I don't know who is the sheriff and who is running, but find out who is running against him, contact those candidates, let them know that CCW is the only issue you care about, and ask them where they stand. Vote for anyone but the incumbent.

Remember, sheriff is a big deal position. These guys may have spend $100k or more getting in. That's a big investment. Let the incumbents know that you will get them OUT if they don't reform CCW policies, and vote against them.

Smoothiesd
04-07-2006, 11:25 PM
Aaahh, it is good to be one of the few in Monterey county with a CCW....

C.G.
04-08-2006, 3:22 AM
That sucks. What do you have to do, get shot to get a damn CCW?
Again, need to vote a different Sheriff in.

FreedomIsNotFree
04-08-2006, 5:58 AM
Would a Police Chief be able to issue a CCW in Monterey County?

Rumpled
04-08-2006, 8:01 AM
Would a Police Chief be able to issue a CCW in Monterey County?

Yes, a Police Chief may issue for anyone in his jurisdiction.
The Sheriff may issue to anyone in the county.
So, if you live in a city with a police department you might have two chances.

A lot of cities and counties have "agreements" to not step on each other's toes.

FreedomIsNotFree
04-08-2006, 9:58 AM
Yes, a Police Chief may issue for anyone in his jurisdiction.
The Sheriff may issue to anyone in the county.
So, if you live in a city with a police department you might have two chances.

A lot of cities and counties have "agreements" to not step on each other's toes.


Once issued by the Police Chief if would then be valid anywhere in CA right?

linuxgunner
04-08-2006, 12:59 PM
Once issued by the Police Chief if would then be valid anywhere in CA right?

Correct, unless he writes in some restrictions. They can put down whatever silly restrictions they want to, but if they don't (and they usually don't) you can carry walking down Union St in SF.

In fact a lot of people who want permits in SF establish a second residence in a rural county and get permitted there so they can pack in SF (or LA, etc).

FreedomIsNotFree
04-08-2006, 1:23 PM
Correct, unless he writes in some restrictions. They can put down whatever silly restrictions they want to, but if they don't (and they usually don't) you can carry walking down Union St in SF.

In fact a lot of people who want permits in SF establish a second residence in a rural county and get permitted there so they can pack in SF (or LA, etc).


I may be able to get one then. I need to think about how to approach the Chief I know. Its in Monterey County.....this could be interesting.

C.G.
04-08-2006, 1:59 PM
Would a Police Chief be able to issue a CCW in Monterey County?

City of Monterey will usually refer you to the Sheriff.

Woodman
04-08-2006, 4:45 PM
I asked a bike patrol officer, in SC, if it was hard to get the CCW there.
He said the chief was reluctant to issue because of liability concerns.

Is the issuing officer an elected offical? That might explain his position.
The coast is so stacked so high to the left, it is a wonder it does not break off and sink in the Pacific.

linuxgunner
04-08-2006, 5:21 PM
I asked a bike patrol officer, in SC, if it was hard to get the CCW there.
He said the chief was reluctant to issue because of liability concerns.

That is the LAMEST EXCUSE IN THE BOOK OF EXCUSES. Issuing creates NO liability for them. Not issuing creates MORE legal risks. If they decline to issue to a black person he could TAKE THEM TO THE CLEANERS for racial discrimination, for example. And if someone says, "my life is at risk because of this factor, could you give me a permit" and they say "no" they are at risk if the threat comes true.

Is the issuing officer an elected offical?

YES HE IS. The two people who control issuing are the county sheriff and the chief of police. The chief of police is not elected; he is selected usually by the city council. Talk to the people running for city council and bring up this issue. The county sheriff is directly elected. In fact the election is coming up in June. Talk to the candidates and get their views and let them know this is the #1 issue for you. Then vote! In SC I would say you should NOT vote for the incumbent (the guy who is sheriff now). In any case make sure they hear from you and hear that this is your #1 issue.

That might explain his position.
The coast is so stacked so high to the left, it is a wonder it does not break off and sink in the Pacific.

Yeah, but still, VOTE! And remember, this isn't a left-wing vs right-wing issue. One of the most left-wing people anywhere ever was Fredrich Engels, and he thought it was of utmost importance for the common man to be armed. I bet we all agree with that, right? So clearly this isn't a left-right issue.

otteray
04-08-2006, 6:31 PM
In Santa Cruz County, the only people who get elected are extreme/moderate anti-gun left, thanks in part to the hugh University of Calif. voting block consisting of out of state (east coast) students who come here to be 60's hippys and get high, screw up our local politics then go back home.
The ones running for the open seat are ultra extreme socialists except for one that is a carpenter (used to be a union apprenticeship program coordinator), Jonathan Beutell. I'm gonna call him and ask his opinion on the issue since I used to work with him.
By the way, Santa Cruz City is posted at the city entrances as "a nuclear free zone" so don't have any A-bombs with you!
The only people here with concealed weapons are gang members and cops.
Check out Packing.org for all of the counties ccw info, in detail.

linuxgunner
04-08-2006, 6:42 PM
By the way, Santa Cruz City is posted at the city entrances as "a nuclear free zone" so don't have any A-bombs with you!

Feel-good politics at its best. They are federally-preempted on questions of A-bombs and military stuff in general. There's absolutely nada the city can say about it if the DoD wants to move nuke bombs through there. It probably happens sometimes in fact. The DoD has under its control thousands of nuke bombs and they are manufactured at Lawrence Livermore, not too far from SC, and they need to get shipped to San Diego to the nuke sub base there.