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DarkKro
06-27-2010, 6:59 PM
there is 2 major fire arms violations for the state of CA. I'd highly advise taking down that picture. The pistol grip and the folding stock with ammo slots are illegal in CA... FB is notorious for allowing LE to check their users profiles and use their pictures and updates against people in court.... FB's privacy policy was written by the Chris something-or-another from LA that's running for Attorney General of CA... his main platform is to use social networking against criminals...

a FRIEND of mine received this from his friend on facebook. Any truth to this about the shotgun and FB?


mossberg 500a
http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:dlBf8KoSEyqRmM:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v609/acpena1410/IMG_0179.jpg

ChrisTKHarris
06-27-2010, 7:00 PM
That shotgun is perfectly legal.

dark_ninja
06-27-2010, 7:03 PM
:fud:

Cokebottle
06-27-2010, 7:03 PM
As long as the barrel is 18.5" or greater and the OAL is 26" or greater, it's legal.

The person who sent the email is misinformed.

The Mossberg 500 is not a semi-automatic shotgun, therefore, the combination of the PG and folding/telescoping buttstock are legal.
On a semi-automatic shotgun like the Saiga-12, the combination would be illegal.

Purple K
06-27-2010, 7:09 PM
Perfectly legal

Vtec44
06-27-2010, 7:19 PM
On a semi-automatic shotgun like the Saiga-12, the combination would be illegal.

It's perfectly legal too if it doesn't have a detachable magazine. :D

383green
06-27-2010, 7:29 PM
It's perfectly legal too if it doesn't have a detachable magazine. :D

Wrong! A semiautomatic shotgun with both a folding stock and a pistol grip is an assault weapon under CA law. Also, a semiautomatic shotgun with a detachable magazine is an assault weapon under CA law.

Please refer to the shotgun flow chart (http://www.calguns.net/caawid/sgflowchart.pdf).

Cokebottle
06-27-2010, 7:40 PM
It's perfectly legal too if it doesn't have a detachable magazine. :D
Negative.

ALL semi-automatic shotguns, regardless of "evil features", must have a fixed magazine.

Shotgun AW laws are different from centerfire rifle laws:

http://www.calguns.net/caawid/sgflowchart.pdf
http://www.calguns.net/caawid/flowchart.pdf

Vtec44
06-27-2010, 7:41 PM
Yikes. It shows how much I know about CA shotgun laws. :o

robcoe
06-27-2010, 7:56 PM
a FRIEND of mine received this from his friend on facebook. Any truth to this about the shotgun and FB?


mossberg 500a
http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:dlBf8KoSEyqRmM:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v609/acpena1410/IMG_0179.jpg

as long as the barrel is greater than 18 inches(mossbergs basic barrel is 18.5) and the OAL is not to short its fine. It would be illegal with a semi auto shotgun, but not a pump.

Colt-45
06-27-2010, 8:44 PM
As long as the barrel is 18.5" or greater and the OAL is 26" or greater, it's legal.

The person who sent the email is misinformed.

The Mossberg 500 is not a semi-automatic shotgun, therefore, the combination of the PG and folding/telescoping buttstock are legal.
On a semi-automatic shotgun like the Saiga-12, the combination would be illegal.

+1
Yikes. It shows how much I know about CA shotgun laws. :o

Happens to all of us. I've made the mistake before of thinking rifles and shotguns had the same laws, luckily it's all cleared up.

Note to self: Shotguns, rifles and handguns have separate specific laws.

maxwellca21
06-27-2010, 8:57 PM
a FRIEND of mine received this from his friend on facebook. Any truth to this about the shotgun and FB?


mossberg 500a
http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:dlBf8KoSEyqRmM:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v609/acpena1410/IMG_0179.jpg

your friend's friend is a douche bag (am i been too harsh? ah i dont give a rat's ***). That shotgun is perfectly legal from looking at the picture you posted.

slappomatt
06-27-2010, 9:03 PM
alot of miss information in this thread. The shotgun in question CLEARLY has the shoulder thing that goes up! FELONY!!!!!! KITTEN MURDERER!!!!! lol.:TFH:

BigDogatPlay
06-27-2010, 9:06 PM
your friend's friend is a douche bag (am i been too harsh? ah i dont give a rat's ***). That shotgun is perfectly legal from looking at the picture you posted.

I don't think you're being too harsh.... :D

That said, anyone with a Facebook account should mind what photos they post and what they write. Many private sector firms have started doing background checks, not as strenuous as a LEO or security clearance background, but they are checking. And they absolutely do look at social media sites to see what candidates have been posting.

thebronze
06-27-2010, 9:31 PM
alot of miss information in this thread. The shotgun in question CLEARLY has the shoulder thing that goes up! FELONY!!!!!! KITTEN MURDERER!!!!! lol.:TFH:

LOL!!!

stitchnicklas
06-27-2010, 10:15 PM
tell your friend to delete the fud-tardo from his friends list and add calguns to his face book i did

Thrasher416
06-27-2010, 10:44 PM
Sounds just like this gunsmith I met at a Big 5 back in February. He was looking at Mosins and was chatting with the Manager and me and said that pistol grip pump action shotguns were about to be declared as SBS's by the ATF and that they had already sent him an email warning him. :rolleyes:

This same guy also wouldn't accept the bayonet that came with the Mosin " 'cause it was illegal" and told me he had a featureless AR with a BB attached.:banghead:

stitchnicklas
06-27-2010, 11:57 PM
Sounds just like this gunsmith I met at a Big 5 back in February. He was looking at Mosins and was chatting with the Manager and me and said that pistol grip pump action shotguns were about to be declared as SBS's by the ATF and that they had already sent him an email warning him. :rolleyes:

This same guy also wouldn't accept the bayonet that came with the Mosin " 'cause it was illegal" and told me he had a featureless AR with a BB attached.:banghead:

hahaha must be a riverside gunsmith...:rolleyes:

leelaw
06-28-2010, 12:10 AM
The "friend of a friend" doesn't know what he's talking about, both from the standpoint of the legality of the shotgun, as well as FB's policy of giving LEOs unfetered access to facebook profiles.

30rdMag
06-28-2010, 12:13 AM
I did put my AR up on my facebook for a bit, But the ip would show I did it in arizona, Where the evil stuff is stored.....lol

maxwellca21
06-28-2010, 12:19 AM
tell your friend to delete the fud-tardo from his friends list and add calguns to his face book i did

fud-tardo...hahaha nice word man.

jeffyboy
06-28-2010, 8:13 AM
Why do people feel the need to make comments on laws that they have no clue about. Give your friends "friend" the link to Calguns so he can get educated correctly and stop talking FUD.

stitchnicklas
06-28-2010, 1:16 PM
fud-tardo...hahaha nice word man.

i know,i started to write ret**** then though of fud and also that some folks here must have children with disabilities,that and my wife is a special ed teacher she would have smacked me.

but i am coining the phrase FUD-TARDO

all may use it,fill free when you smell fud...