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bombadillo
06-24-2010, 9:29 PM
Well, I have the opportunity to buy a match barrel, fitted bushing, full length guide rod. Front strap was hand checkered, MSH was checkered as well, beveled mag well, stainless slide assembly, with an extended and ambidextrous safety. Wide beaver tail, commander hammer, trigger job unknown by who. All in all a great piece. What would something like this in 80-90% be worth as a shooter, not a collectors piece??? I really need to know quickly because the transaction will happen tomorrow.

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l122/bombadillo08/guns/100_2926.jpg

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Chief-7700
06-24-2010, 9:50 PM
What are they asking for it?

den888
06-24-2010, 9:56 PM
Do you have photos ? What's the round count ? Does it have boxes and manuals ?

Colt-45
06-24-2010, 9:59 PM
I purchased a Colt Series 70 gold cup with box manual all original parts unfired for $1500 if that helps. Gun is like new 99%

bjl333
06-24-2010, 10:07 PM
Providing the pistol is in good shape and the total fit is tighter then a GI gun. I personally won't go past $1000. The gun don't have a known history and as to who customed it. If the slide is silver then it might be hard chrome as it is commonly done in the '70s-'90s.
all in all I would price it to a mid price new 1911. I see Kimber's & Springer's top production pistol going for 1400's. The series 70s are desirable if left untouched. One it has been altered then its collector value is just of a shooter, unless the customizer is known.
Just my personal opinion ...


EDIT: The Kimber and Springer Tactical not GI entry levels are about mid-7s, and they do have lots of features you mentioned in the Colt.

norcal77
06-24-2010, 11:55 PM
I wouldn't pay more than a grand...

nn3453
06-25-2010, 4:02 AM
As the guys said, if it is a series 70 gold cup, by all means spend big bucks. If not, it is just a series 70 gun that someone worked on (unless it is someone well known, I wouldn't spend a lot of money on it).

bombadillo
06-25-2010, 9:11 AM
Its not a gold cup, but has a lot of match components, fitted slide to frame, bushing, barrel, and lots of goodies like I described above. Some obvious ed brown parts and the work looks and feels top notch. I'm in the ballpark of $600 which is what he wants. I know for sure its worth more than that but he needs it to fund another project and he got it for $350!!!!! :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

bjl333
06-25-2010, 9:15 AM
$600 is definately a good price for that gun. RIA's go for that much. Did you pay $600 or $350? If you paid only $350 then I need to call the cops on you, coz you stole the thing !! LOL ...

Chief-7700
06-25-2010, 9:28 AM
Buy it.

bombadillo
06-25-2010, 9:39 AM
$600 is definately a good price for that gun. RIA's go for that much. Did you pay $600 or $350? If you paid only $350 then I need to call the cops on you, coz you stole the thing !! LOL ...

He paid $350, I offered him $600. I still think its a smokin deal either way.

nn3453
06-25-2010, 9:40 AM
He paid $350, I offered him $600. I still think its a smokin deal either way.

You stole it. Pics and range report!

bjl333
06-25-2010, 10:06 AM
You stole it. Pics and range report!



Ditto ...

bombadillo
06-25-2010, 10:13 AM
I should get it Sunday, and pics with the range report should be up!

map
06-25-2010, 12:06 PM
Can't wait to see pics. Did you buy it off a cal gunner?

bombadillo
06-25-2010, 10:41 PM
No, not from a calgunner, but locally.

mrlightning559
06-25-2010, 11:45 PM
Nice purchase I find my good deals hanging around the gun store people think the stores gunna give then a good price toward a trade and I'll swoop them up

bombadillo
06-26-2010, 7:50 PM
Well, Its a colt series 70 govt edition with a bunch of goodies. I'm trying to figure out who makes the sights but they're bo-mar style. It has front and rear checkering as well as trigger guard checkering. There are all kinds of goodies on it but yet to be seen. Fitted barrel, blued slide with stainless frame, really nice 3lb or so trigger, and much more. Pics later.

bombadillo
06-27-2010, 11:55 AM
Updated with pics.

bjl333
06-27-2010, 10:45 PM
The sights are BoMar Brand, they were very popular in the 70's-90's for custom 1911s. The frame is probably hard chrome which are very popular in that time period as well. The flaired mag well, checked metal work are all very nicely done. The hammer, trigger, grip safety, lower ejection port, amp safety are all customed ...... YOU SCORED !!!!

bombadillo
06-27-2010, 10:53 PM
Yeah, the more I look at it, the more it looks like they tried to make a 2 tone gold cup out of it. The checkering looks top notch on it, as does the magwell flare. Any clues as to what she's worth after all the work, or what the work would cost. Also has an ambi extended safety and an oversized mag release.

bigbob76
06-27-2010, 11:04 PM
Yeah, the more I look at it, the more it looks like they tried to make a 2 tone gold cup out of it. The checkering looks top notch on it, as does the magwell flare. Any clues as to what she's worth after all the work, or what the work would cost. Also has an ambi extended safety and an oversized mag release.

I hope it doesn't come up as stolen when you DROS it.

bjl333
06-28-2010, 1:00 AM
Yeah, the more I look at it, the more it looks like they tried to make a 2 tone gold cup out of it. The checkering looks top notch on it, as does the magwell flare. Any clues as to what she's worth after all the work, or what the work would cost. Also has an ambi extended safety and an oversized mag release.



I think all the work would easily be north of $1k, depending which gunsmith did the work. If I remember correctly just the Bo-Mar's alone would be like $350 milled into the slide (???), I do think this is an 80's gun as all the work seems from the time period. But it doesn't matter when a gun is made, just how it shoots !!!

RANGE REPORT PLEASE !!!

bombadillo
06-28-2010, 9:51 AM
I hope it doesn't come up as stolen when you DROS it.

No, came up clean the first time. I had my buddy run it through a few different places and the local PD before I even touched it. Called colt and everything is legit. I'm really anal about that kind of stuff.

Ninja45
06-28-2010, 11:29 AM
How does it shoot? Did you ask the seller that? Reliable or jams every other round? Seller should disclose these kind of things. No matter how purty a pistol looks, if it doesn't shoot right, then $600 may not be a good price if you have to bring it to another gunsmith to make right.

If it shoots as good as it looks, you did score, BIG TIME!

bombadillo
06-28-2010, 12:06 PM
Got to shoot it yesterday. Shot probably around 150 rounds through it. All 230gr fmj or 180gr fmj and not a single malfunction. The price and gun are just amazing altogether. I found one of the unicorns out there I guess.

Colt
06-28-2010, 12:08 PM
Nice score!

Steyrlp10
06-28-2010, 12:16 PM
Got to shoot it yesterday. Shot probably around 150 rounds through it. All 230gr fmj or 180gr fmj and not a single malfunction. The price and gun are just amazing altogether. I found one of the unicorns out there I guess.

Congrats -- from the Bo-Mar sights on there and your description of the 3 lbs trigger, maybe it's safe to say the prior owner was a Bullseye shooter. The current trigger isn't a standard in Bullseye, but who knows?

You paid a great price and as everyone mentioned, the gun looks very clean.

You mentioned also that you didn't experience any misfeeds. What distance were you shooting and what were the groupings? I'm curious because if it's a match grade pistol, they're built to group at two inches at 50 yards.

Anyhow, glad you found such a great deal -- I think you're going to have lots of fun :)

bombadillo
06-28-2010, 12:22 PM
I was only shooting at 45' max. Roughly a 15 yard indoor only range. I was actually looking at the pics too but they really don't show how nice most of the bluing is. Its a really clean gun on the flats with some wear on the top end of the gun. I'm either going to have it duracoated, melonite, or re-blued. Definitely a match grade pistol but I wasn't able to take it out to any real distance.

Steyrlp10
06-28-2010, 12:26 PM
I was only shooting at 45' max. Roughly a 15 yard indoor only range. I was actually looking at the pics too but they really don't show how nice most of the bluing is. Its a really clean gun on the flats with some wear on the top end of the gun. I'm either going to have it duracoated, melonite, or re-blued. Definitely a match grade pistol but I wasn't able to take it out to any real distance.

Now you have the motivation to take it out for a real test drive ;)

wsmc27
06-28-2010, 1:56 PM
Awesome find! CONGRATS n' have FUN with that baby!! :D

bombadillo
06-29-2010, 8:39 AM
Well, poking around and asking a lot, it looks like Eddie Jiminea was the gunsmith who created this piece and was likely made around the very late seventies to the early eighties. A Wilson Combat rep on 1911forums.com said that without a doubt it is eddies work. Glad to hear as he made some really nice 1911's and is still in business with a pretty big following out of Houston TX.

nn3453
06-29-2010, 8:45 AM
Very nice. You got lucky. Should shoot well too.

dfletcher
06-29-2010, 9:12 AM
Great score, I think. The curve on the trigger looks a touch different than most aftermarket types - a bit more "bow" to it I think. And notice the checkering on the front strap of the grip, how cleanly it ends where the trigger guard comes into the frame - absolutely perfect, no unformed diamonds or over runs. Mag well flare is well done, from the side photo it's barely noticeable. Overall a very "gentlemanly" and well done job.

bombadillo
07-01-2010, 9:12 AM
So I have been poking around on 1911forum.com regarding this and basically posted up the same thing. This is what one guy said about it:

I talked to Eddie J about this gun a few interesting facts. Grip safety he often used a MS safari grip safety that he heated up and bent the beavertail up more. The scallop in the barrel was first done at a customers request b/c customer did not want the slide to rub barrel hood. Those grips are also meticulously fitted to the new frame profile. Lastly the front sight was designed to offer less wind resistance while moving gun from side to side speeding up target transitions
Well not really it was designed so you could hang gun on a nail in the closet:biglaugh:


I couldn't believe he actually talked to the original maker of the gun and it makes it hit way closer to home what I actually got. Great stuff!

http://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=277098

bigbob76
07-01-2010, 10:07 AM
Maybe you can even find out what the specs were for the ammo they loaded for the way he set his pistols up.

ap3572001
07-01-2010, 10:25 AM
Well, I have the opportunity to buy a match barrel, fitted bushing, full length guide rod. Front strap was hand checkered, MSH was checkered as well, beveled mag well, stainless slide assembly, with an extended and ambidextrous safety. Wide beaver tail, commander hammer, trigger job unknown by who. All in all a great piece. What would something like this in 80-90% be worth as a shooter, not a collectors piece??? I really need to know quickly because the transaction will happen tomorrow.

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l122/bombadillo08/guns/100_2926.jpg

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l122/bombadillo08/guns/100_2922.jpg

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http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l122/bombadillo08/guns/100_2928.jpg

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l122/bombadillo08/100_2931.jpg

ANY Series 70 COLT that had some GOOD work done on it and that works well and the condition is good is worth AT LEAST what a used Springfield Loaded or Kimber Custom II are selling for.

ANY series 70 that was worked on by someone with a name ( Novak, C&S etc ) Sights , Barrel, Checkering etc would start at a 1000.00 ++++

If the gun on the photo was offered to me and I knew it also shoot well anything under a 1000.00 TOTAL invested would be a good price.