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marklbucla
06-22-2010, 4:50 PM
On an unscoped rifle/carbine, can you actually see where you're hitting when shooting to >50 yards without using a spotting scope/binoculars?

When shooting an AR out to 50 yards, I feel like I'm wasting ammo because I can't tell where I'm hitting until I put it down and whip out the binoculars. Shooting an AR to <20 yards would be okay, but at that point, I may as well just be shooting a 1911. Even with a fat 9mm hole, I still have a hard time seeing it when it's more than about 30 yards out.

Now that I've had un-neutered ARs for awhile, I'm finding that unless I'm shooting some sort of reactive target, unscoped rifle shooting is rather unsatisfying.

bjl333
06-22-2010, 4:56 PM
Go buy some Red Flyer Clay Targets !! Or you can get some fruit or golf balls. I think you need to have a Bionic eye to see a 22 past 30yds.
PS spray paint the golf balls b4 going out ...

Vtec44
06-22-2010, 5:00 PM
At 50 yards yes, I can see it through my cheap Barska scope. At 100 yards, no I cannot see it. I only shoot paper targets when I'm sighting in a rifle.

RedDawn
06-22-2010, 5:02 PM
I use 1" thick, 6"x6" steel plates (handing on a stand of course to allow movement back and forth) and spray them with orange paint.

wsmc27
06-22-2010, 5:13 PM
On an unscoped rifle/carbine, can you actually see where you're hitting when shooting to >50 yards without using a spotting scope/binoculars?

Nope. Can't see a thing on plain old paper. ;)

Beetle Bailey
06-22-2010, 5:18 PM
9mm + Shoot-N-C @ 50 yards should at least tell you where you are hitting. Or have a friend spot hits for you. Or if you are just shooting 9mm out of the AR, just get one of those swinging steel pistol targets. They are about $50 and way more fun than paper.

slappomatt
06-22-2010, 8:15 PM
Thats why I have high power scopes on all my rifles lol.

potatonrules
06-22-2010, 8:16 PM
The orange peel (?) stickers are quite visible at 50 yards.

xibunkrlilkidsx
06-22-2010, 8:25 PM
Thats why I have high power scopes on all my rifles lol.

i have at least one high power scope, 18x that i use when shooting other rifles or have a friend spot for me using that.


Shot n see targets FTW.

Chunky_lover
06-22-2010, 8:35 PM
I use those shoot n see targets but it takes a few shots to see even at 25 yards, holes are way to small. I have a cheap 40x90 spotting scope but the optics and eye position suck so its hard to use. Clay or steel targets are alot of fun then paper

brando
06-22-2010, 8:38 PM
One of the advantages of ELR shooting is that when you're sending rounds out past a mile, time of flight is often long enough to reset from recoil and get back on target with the scope before seeing the splash ;)