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mongpreston
06-22-2010, 3:12 PM
A .45 acp what ammo would be my best chance against a black bear. 230gr JHP or 230gr FMJ or something of less weight and why? thanks.

Black Majik
06-22-2010, 3:19 PM
Bring BBQ sauce. You'll taste better.

punisheryayarea
06-22-2010, 3:24 PM
Bring BBQ sauce. You'll taste better.

:D I don't think I would go near a black bear with a 45acp. It has to be a 44mag or bigger

Black Majik
06-22-2010, 3:33 PM
On a more serious note, I wouldn't pack a gun chambered in .45 ACP into bear country.

for some perspective, this one came out yesterday on Liveleak. A grizzly charging:
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=314424

Also last month, a backpacker in Alaska did manage to kill a Grizzly with a gun chambered in .45 ACP. I suppose it is all about shot placement, but damn was he lucky.

Given the circumstances, even if it was just a black bear, I'm thinking .44 Mag and above.

Fate
06-22-2010, 3:35 PM
.45 will work just fine...




...if you're shooting yourself before Mr. Bear finishes eating your innards.

bjl333
06-22-2010, 3:47 PM
.45 will work just fine...




...if you're shooting yourself before Mr. Bear finishes eating your innards.



OMG !!!! Too funny ....... 44 mag fosho !!!

sker13
06-22-2010, 3:54 PM
What ever I could find with the most energy...Probably a 200gr +p+ load for penetration. Definably not the tool for the job. Half the energy of a .44. Even a 10mm at 725 ftlb of energy is lacking IMO.

GearHead
06-22-2010, 3:55 PM
Those stupid 50 caliber rounds were designed precisely for this purpose. I'd go with a SW500 personally, or a short-barreled AR in .50BEO or something else equally large

DTOM CA!
06-22-2010, 4:01 PM
According to these guys you need a Howitzer with a pistol grip that shoots +P rounds.

GearHead
06-22-2010, 4:02 PM
According to these guys you need a Howitzer with a pistol grip that shoots +P rounds.

A .45 is just going to piss a bear off. Keep in mind that, as far as terminal ballistics are concerned, a .45 is pretty much the same as a 9mm or .40.

JTROKS
06-22-2010, 4:05 PM
If you have a 6" bull barreled 1911 with a fully supported chamber, you can install a 22 or 24 lb recoil spring and shoot 45 Super.

185 Gr @ up to 1400 FPS
230 Gr @ up to 1200 FPS

http://www.acecustom45s.com/45super.htm

It's better than nothing.

Dankle
06-22-2010, 4:11 PM
I killed a bear with a 1911 on Red Dead Redemption yesterday. It only took 3 shots. :D

nn3453
06-22-2010, 4:12 PM
Buy some bear spray. Leave the 45 in the holster to protect against 2 legged predators.

bjl333
06-22-2010, 4:23 PM
According to these guys you need a Howitzer with a pistol grip that shoots +P rounds.



Are those on the Roster ?!?!?

sker13
06-22-2010, 4:30 PM
If you have a 6" bull barreled 1911 with a fully supported chamber, you can install a 22 or 24 lb recoil spring and shoot 45 Super.

185 Gr @ up to 1400 FPS
230 Gr @ up to 1200 FPS

http://www.acecustom45s.com/45super.htm

It's better than nothing.

Still only 700 lbs of energy...less than some 10mm

Paradiddle
06-22-2010, 4:45 PM
Buy some bear spray. Leave the 45 in the holster to protect against 2 legged predators.

Probably the most sound advice. Other then carrying a larger caliber.

evidens83
06-22-2010, 6:03 PM
Bring BBQ sauce. You'll taste better.

.45 will work just fine...




...if you're shooting yourself before Mr. Bear finishes eating your innards.

I killed a bear with a 1911 on Red Dead Redemption yesterday. It only took 3 shots. :D

LMAO these about some it up :rofl:

22popnsplat
06-22-2010, 6:50 PM
first off file off the front site , it wont hurt so bad when the bear takes it and.......

Maybe convert it to 460 rowland ?

runninmike
06-22-2010, 7:01 PM
well, since the op never mentioned griz or brown bear, I'll say a heavy hollow point from a 45 acp will kill a black bear as he was questioning about-deader than hell. Black bears are thin skinned and light boned, they kill easy-even the large ones. Choose the fastest heaviest hollow point you can and you will be fine.

nmerced
06-22-2010, 7:06 PM
Bring BBQ sauce. You'll taste better.

or bring a slow friend and let him carry the BBQ sauce. :D