View Full Version : Reliable AW Registration Stats?

04-03-2006, 12:13 PM
Does anyone know if there is an official statistic or count of California registered assault weapons? Published publicly anyway? I know the AG has a count, but I have never found a credible sourse that gives the count.

I'm sure the DOJ would not want to publicize the fact that out of all the "assault weapons" imported prior to 2001, only 5-7% were ever actually registered.

04-03-2006, 1:10 PM
I don't think that DOJ has ever publicly released any numbers...

My AW Registration # is 12x,xxx

So there has to be at least 200,000 AWs that are regsitered. Figuring if the average number of rifles someone registered 3-5 weapons, that number is higher. Many of the people I know registered 10+ weapons, so the number might even be higher than that. ;)

04-03-2006, 1:48 PM
I do remember back a few years before the 2000 registration period ,that they stated that there were approx. 300K AW's in CA and that only 20% were registered and I believe that they were going by the 1989 ban and registration period... I'd count on, at least, 100K more by the 2000 ban and registration period...

04-03-2006, 4:14 PM
Well, for off-list lowers there's internal DOJ estimates of around 30K ... the question is, is this the # of off-list lowers or number of DROSes? If 30K people DROSed, some buying multiple lowers, that could be 36000ish (1.2K avg off-list lowers per purchaser).

I rather think the DOJ has a better grasp of # of DROSes above monthly average trends, than number of rifles on each DROS.

Now, I just dug up current AW registrant info

From this we get, as of Aug 6 2002...

approved "R/R" persons: 33,540
approved SB23 persons: 39,300
approved "R/R" firearms: 55,507
approved SB23 firearms: 94,241

Total, number of CA AW owners................ 72,840
Total, number of CA assault weapons...... 150,286

These numbers above are completed/approved registrations, and may or may not reflect adjustments for "NLIP" (no longer in possession), deaths, etc. - some of the #s don't add up exactly.

It appears that only 1/3rd (around 13K) of SB23 guns actually had approved registrations by 12/31/2000. This reflects a likely backlog of late-filed SB23 reg cards submitted in December of 2000, and AR/AK guns w/reg cards filed from 1/1/01-1/23/01 (the "Kasler gap"). Kasler gap guns were not broken out in the above document - not clear on a fast read if these fell under Roberti-Roos (since a purportedly Cat II gun is really a Cat I gun!) or were lumped in with SB23 guns just due to timing.

04-03-2006, 5:43 PM
hmmm, so 150k AWs, and 72k owners....

figure 30k extra DROSs assumed by the DOJ and us to be off list stuff....

I figure that we will double the number of AWs once these things get listed. I know of several people who bought multiple lowers, and then sold extras to friends and the like.