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GunLover
06-19-2010, 9:04 AM
I have a friend who does a lot of hiking in rough terrain and harsh weather. Freezing cold, extreme heat and dust. He also carries concealed also. He needs something that he can use for an all around pistol. He does not want to travel with mulitple guns and ammunition. Cost is really not an issue as he is rich as sin. He is thinking 45 or 357. He has narrowed his selection down to some type of 1911 or G21, HK45 or an 4 inch 686 What this selection what is your suggestion?

I told him if he hikes more than he carries ccw maybe the 357 would be best and if he CCWs more either the G21 or HK45 would be it.

jdg30
06-19-2010, 9:28 AM
If he regularly goes through different extreme terrains and climates I would say a G21 would be a perfect gun, after all, that's what they are designed for. Durable, reliable, easy to maintain. I doubt he could go wrong with any of the guns you mentioned, but I would choose a Glock.

If he just goes hiking a lot, I would say the S&W 686 would be a great backpacking gun. .357mag, accurate, dependable, how could you go wrong?

RollingCode3
06-19-2010, 9:30 AM
Glock 21sf

CrippledPidgeon
06-19-2010, 9:30 AM
Well the big question is what is he trying to defend himself against? If it's against people, then any semi-automatic would work. If it's against dangerous predators, he's going to want a revolver and in a fairly substantial caliber (.454 casull at least)

FUBAR
06-19-2010, 9:36 AM
If he carries in the woods where big cats or bears are present, then I would recommend a 10mm. Glock 20 to be exact. Its the same size as a Glock 21 but shoots a better penetrating round. Since he's rich, he should get some Doubletap ammo.

NiteQwill
06-19-2010, 10:05 AM
Glock for his purposes. But like someone said, 10mm version.

drunktank
06-19-2010, 10:47 AM
Glock 20C with doubletap.

hit-man
06-19-2010, 11:12 AM
The Glock or a stainless 686 would be good choices. Both are resistant to climate, sweat and are intuitive to shoot.

Blackhawk556
06-19-2010, 11:27 AM
Glock

And tell him to spread the wealth :) lol
J/k

Greg-Dawg
06-19-2010, 11:39 AM
Glock 20 in 10mm.

stormvet
06-19-2010, 5:53 PM
Let me buck the trend. The guy is rich as sin, dont mess around with a $500 Glock.

Wilson Combat 1911 Super Grade in 10mm, waste that bear with style.

Ultimate
06-19-2010, 6:21 PM
Glock 20 in 10mm.

This!

If not then the .357 will be second choice.

remyjoeboxer
06-19-2010, 6:40 PM
How come no ones mentioned SIG p220. ya it's a little big for ccw, but comeon its a SIG!

wu_dot_com
06-19-2010, 7:13 PM
colt delta elite, that will give him a slim, all metal 10mm goodness.

kellito
06-19-2010, 8:30 PM
How come no ones mentioned SIG p220. ya it's a little big for ccw, but comeon its a SIG!

Yep it's a sig, so why is it better than the other choices?

I vote for the damned expensive 1911 in 10mm. The glock in 10mm is a good shooter also but might be too blue collar for your rich *** friend.


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bsg
06-19-2010, 8:46 PM
although i'd be carrying my w german sig P220 .45 ACP, of the guns mentioned i'd use the G21 IF i had large hands. the 686 is a good pick if he wants a revolver; stainless for harsh weather and plenty of power.

1911Operator
06-19-2010, 8:49 PM
glock 30sf

den888
06-19-2010, 9:09 PM
S&W 686 or other .357 stainless magnum revolver would be my choice. Why ? Stainless is good against the elements and you have a lot of versatility on ammunition choice - .38 special, snakeshot loads, and full power .357 magnum loads.

jyo
06-19-2010, 9:41 PM
These are all good guns, but I recommend the HK.

GoodEyeSniper
06-19-2010, 9:41 PM
Dan Wesson in 10mm

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r89/PlayboyPenguin/Semi-autos/RZ-10-1.jpg

GoodEyeSniper
06-19-2010, 9:43 PM
Well the big question is what is he trying to defend himself against? If it's against people, then any semi-automatic would work. If it's against dangerous predators, he's going to want a revolver and in a fairly substantial caliber (.454 casull at least)

Um, .454 casull AT LEAST??? This is in California, right? Generally a .357 is more than enough to dispatch anything coming your way in california. A .44 magnum is good to make you feel better, what in god's green earth do you need a .454 for in Cali?? I mean, it can't hurt(unless you can't shoot it well), but it seems massively overkill.

sirgiles
06-19-2010, 10:00 PM
old thread on the 45acp against bears.
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=43316&highlight=bears

Mstnpete
06-19-2010, 10:01 PM
Glock 20, 10mm with Double Tap Ammo 200gr Wide Flat Nose Gas Check Hardcast

Ballistics : 1300fps/ 750 ft./lbs. - Glock 20
1105fps / 542 ft lbs 100yds Glock 20

Power of a 41 magnum!

Echidin
06-19-2010, 11:22 PM
For his intended purpose I would say .357 wheel gun or Glock 20...in that order.

GunLover
06-20-2010, 2:40 AM
Thanks to all for your posts. I will forward the post to my friend.

Greg-Dawg
06-20-2010, 5:49 AM
With the Glock, it will tolerate any harsh terrain and weather: snow, rain, heat, etc. Its polymer reciever and tennifer slide/barrel has been reliable throughout. If it were to go through such weather torture, (in most rare occcasions) the only part that would have to be replaced would be the trigger bar...and maybe the locking block since they can be exposed to rust...but we're talking about the most EXTREME conditions.

Too bad Glock hasn't invented a pistol in .44mag, I'd grab that in bear country.

bsg
06-20-2010, 11:54 AM
With the Glock, it will tolerate any harsh terrain and weather: snow, rain, heat, etc. Its polymer reciever and tennifer slide/barrel has been reliable throughout. If it were to go through such weather torture, (in most rare occcasions) the only part that would have to be replaced would be the trigger bar...and maybe the locking block since they can be exposed to rust...but we're talking about the most EXTREME conditions.

Too bad Glock hasn't invented a pistol in .44mag, I'd grab that in bear country.


yes; that's why i recommend the glock for that harsh weather.

audiopro74
06-20-2010, 10:59 PM
For protection, I always say wheelgun. They dont jam. That being said, I carry a 44 mag taurus when out in the woods (see avatar). Or the 45 lc with the homegrowns. Own a hk usp in stainless that I take if I feel like I am going in to a bad area and want firepower, and keep a snubby 357 in the headboard. For all around stuff I rely on mu usp though.

Bill Carson
06-20-2010, 11:15 PM
Glock n Roll

DannyZRC
06-20-2010, 11:44 PM
.40 is good to go for anything in california / lower 48.

HK P2000, 10rds (12 if his rich *** has prebans rattling around somewhere) small enough for CCW (certainly smaller than other contenders), enough horsepower for everything mentioned.

if the HK isn't his speed, a glock 23 is another good option.

bonus points, if he's rich he likes this to be convenient, and anything with an ammo shelf will likely have .40

mrlightning559
06-21-2010, 9:03 AM
I like how my hk has a nice large trigger gaurd if he's outdoors alot I would recomend the hk I wouldn't say they are less reliable than a glock plus the excellent stippling and grip the only real complaint anyone can come up with is the mag release but I got used to it.

Black Majik
06-21-2010, 9:21 AM
The first choice that immediately popped in my mind was the G20.

However, if he wants to be different, I would rock a hardchromed HK45 with 45 Super. :cool2:

Knight_Who_Says_Ni
06-21-2010, 12:08 PM
This:

http://www.realguns.com/articles/201.htm :D

GunLover
06-21-2010, 10:28 PM
nice

Legasat
06-22-2010, 8:52 AM
Honestly, I would take a stainless steel revolver, at least .357Mag.

lawaia
06-22-2010, 8:57 AM
Since money is no object, buy two.............

HK45c for CCW.

S&W 329PD .44 Mag for hiking.

Sunday
06-22-2010, 10:38 AM
IMO it is really silly to carry a 1911 as most nice 1911s are pricey and do no better job than a plastic gun . Besides the issue is what happens to your gun if you in self defense you have to use it ? So your $1500.00+ 1911 gets consficated. Seems much wiser to get you $550.00 ish Glock or XD confiscated.

Corbin Dallas
06-22-2010, 10:48 AM
All around - Glock 20 10mm.

Light, effective, powerful and works when you need it.

Why pay more when you don't have to?

Ammo? There is a bunch to choose from but double tap and buffalo bore come to mind for animals.

map
06-22-2010, 10:49 AM
Sounds like it will be a beater gun so I'd go with the glock. If it was for collecting I'd go with the 1911. Regardless though, he can't go wrong with any choice.

civilsnake
06-22-2010, 11:11 AM
That's a tough call.

I like the idea of 10mm for hiking, but a G20 is not a small pistol and will not be fun to conceal. Of course neither will a .357 wheel gun with a useful barrel. So a 1911 in 10mm might be a good compromise because of the slim profile. But it's going to be heavier, and I would be more inclined to trust a polymer gun in freezing temps. Additionally, most 10mm 1911s I know of are speced more for competition shooting and not necessarily tuned for reliability in adverse weather/dirt.

I guess I would go with either the Glock20 or stainless revolver for hiking and something else entirely for CCW. That's my honest answer.