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mtbryder
06-19-2010, 7:46 AM
Not sure what to make of all of this. Most of the sites on the web that are saying this will affect our 2A rights are pretty far right. NRA seams to be saying that they are actively engaged at the United Nations regarding these international small arms treaties. The difference with this treaty is that in the past the US has not signed on to these treaties. But it looks like the Obama administration will sign this new UN Small Arms Treaty (no big surprise there).

http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Federal/Read.aspx?id=5224

Thoughts, concerns, should we be worried?

383green
06-19-2010, 7:54 AM
This topic has been coming up frequently here for a long time. It's 95% FUD (Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt). It's one of those the-sky-is-falling zombie topics that just won't die.

OleCuss
06-19-2010, 8:05 AM
You should be worried - but about something else.

The treaty negotiations were almost designed to fail and the probability that the U.S. would ratify it is pretty low - and even if they did ratify it would likely be struck down by SCOTUS.

NiteQwill
06-19-2010, 8:26 AM
This, again...

loather
06-19-2010, 8:42 AM
The answer to this question is NO.

Use the search function; this topic has been discussed ad nauseam.

Window_Seat
06-19-2010, 8:45 AM
We should always be concerned with what the UN has in store for anyone of us, but this isn't an issue right now.

http://www.dreamstime.com/gun-tied-in-a-knot-thumb5180456.jpg

Erik; could see a thousands words coming.

Purple K
06-19-2010, 8:56 AM
It is a legitimate concern for gun owners. Even if our Congress doesn't ratify it, other Countries may still adopt it. Those Countries would then be prohibited from exporting rifles, pistols and shotguns. Say goodby to your Glocks, Benellis, Berettas, Howas, etc, etc,etc.

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06-19-2010, 9:04 AM
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06-19-2010, 9:13 AM
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Sunday
06-19-2010, 9:54 AM
I would be concerned as the government is full of one world order types. Study up if you do not understand or believe. J.F. Kennedy signed the U.N. Freedom from War Treaty and i have seen it take effect over the years since I first learned about it in 1970. John Wayne isn't here to protect us guys . Wake up it is later than the TV or Rush Linebaugh leads us on to be. It wouldn't happen to us isn't working.

383green
06-19-2010, 10:05 AM
:TFH:

OleCuss
06-19-2010, 10:37 AM
It is a legitimate concern for gun owners. Even if our Congress doesn't ratify it, other Countries may still adopt it. Those Countries would then be prohibited from exporting rifles, pistols and shotguns. Say goodby to your Glocks, Benellis, Berettas, Howas, etc, etc,etc.

Nope.

The final negotiation requires consensus. That means that if just one of the negotiating nations should not agree with the final document - the treaty simply doesn't exist and can't be adopted.

They could start another negotiation under different rules or do other multi-lateral treaties. But then you'd have to ask yourself if Austria would want to give up selling Glocks if handguns will be available from other manufacturers anyway? Not likely to happen. Too much money in it.

yellowfin
06-19-2010, 12:35 PM
There is concern that it could tie up the surplus ammo and parts market.

jl123
06-19-2010, 2:24 PM
It is a legitimate concern for gun owners. Even if our Congress doesn't ratify it, other Countries may still adopt it. Those Countries would then be prohibited from exporting rifles, pistols and shotguns. Say goodby to your Glocks, Benellis, Berettas, Howas, etc, etc,etc.

Fully owned subsidiaries w/ licensing deals FTW!

No way those companies would give up the revenue stream the US market provides.