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j2ws2000
04-02-2006, 2:50 PM
See title. I just noticed I can't find one..semi-automatic of course.

blacklisted
04-02-2006, 2:57 PM
There's the Ruger PC4 (.40 S&W) and the PC9 (9mm):


http://www.ruger.com/Firearms/FAProdResults?function=famid&famid=20

j2ws2000
04-02-2006, 3:04 PM
*sigh* This sort of thing makes me want to pick up another receiver for a break-open 9mm AR.

blacklisted
04-02-2006, 3:32 PM
There's also the Marlin 'Camp 9'.

PanzerAce
04-02-2006, 4:36 PM
Kel tec makes one as well.

RRangel
04-02-2006, 4:37 PM
Kel tec makes one as well.

Yes but it's not California legal. It has a dangerous pistol grip.

PanzerAce
04-02-2006, 5:35 PM
really? cause I saw one for sale in a local shop.......

ohsmily
04-02-2006, 6:21 PM
really? cause I saw one for sale in a local shop.......

I think he means the kel-tec .223 pistol (which kel-tec does make). If he isn't referring to the kel tec pistol, then he is wrong, b/c anyone with any basic knowledge knows the SU-16 series carbine is completely CA compliant except for the "C" and "D" models (as long as you don't add "evil" features to it).

RRangel
04-02-2006, 6:27 PM
The Kel-Tec Sub 2000 carbine has a pistol grip and utilizes detachable magazines.

http://www.liberty-products.com/sub_204.gif

PanzerAce
04-02-2006, 7:20 PM
The Kel-Tec Sub 2000 carbine has a pistol grip and utilizes detachable magazines.

http://www.liberty-products.com/sub_204.gif

thats the one I saw, guess it was for LEO or something *shrugs*.

j2ws2000
04-02-2006, 8:32 PM
I do like the Sub 2000, but I didn't think it was California legal? I know the Glock carbine conversion isn't.

ohsmily
04-02-2006, 8:54 PM
I do like the Sub 2000, but I didn't think it was California legal? I know the Glock carbine conversion isn't.

Its not......

j2ws2000
04-02-2006, 9:14 PM
Its not......

?

Screw Flanders.

adamsreeftank
04-02-2006, 11:22 PM
I vote for the Ruger PC4. I love mine. It's very easy to shoot with really no recoil. No compliants, except it would be niced if it had a pistol grip and a rail for a flashlight.

j2ws2000
04-02-2006, 11:30 PM
I'm a little confused, I thought one could have a semi-auto with a pistol grip. I thought the limitation was you can't have the magazine 'hanging stanically from the action,' folding/telescoping stock, flash suppressor, I thought it was limited to one evil feature?

Awwww crap..I get it...*sigh*

I might as well just get another AR receiver and pin it.

Mike Searson
04-02-2006, 11:48 PM
I'm a little confused, I thought one could have a semi-auto with a pistol grip. I thought the limitation was you can't have the magazine 'hanging stanically from the action,' folding/telescoping stock, flash suppressor, I thought it was limited to one evil feature?

Awwww crap..I get it...*sigh*

I might as well just get another AR receiver and pin it.

Can't have a detachable magazine and any other so-called evil feature.

You can have M1 Carbines also. That's a pistol caliber carbine.

PanzerAce
04-03-2006, 8:12 AM
Can't have a detachable magazine and any other so-called evil feature.

You can have M1 Carbines also. That's a pistol caliber carbine.

I dont think its a pistol caliber. I would call it more of a bastard caliber, since its not really rifle, not really pistol...

Mike Searson
04-03-2006, 8:32 AM
Don't think so much, then.
;)

The .30 carbine is a pistol caliber. It's essentially a rimless .32 Winchester.

kAnJii
04-03-2006, 9:23 AM
didn't they at one time have a pistol grip?

PanzerAce
04-03-2006, 11:32 AM
Don't think so much, then.
;)

The .30 carbine is a pistol caliber. It's essentially a rimless .32 Winchester.

psh, damn obscure calibers :p

and I assume you mean .32-20? http://www.again.net/~steve/page8d.htm

Mike Searson
04-03-2006, 3:05 PM
Yes sir...also known as 32 WCF.

:)