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Dekker
06-17-2010, 11:53 PM
Built my gaming rig years ago, and unfortunately after I built mine I completely let myself get out of the hardware game and am no longer "in the loop" with what's good and current. To be quite honest, I need to start from square one again. If anyone would be willing to perhaps spend some time over PM's/Emails to get me situated or perhaps assist me in picking parts to upgrade my rig that would be great. I can PM whoever is going to help me what my current specs are to see if anything can be salvaged or if I'd be better off starting from scratch. Used to game heavily, but this baby started aging and eventually I switched back to consoles which require no upgrading. But now I have an itch to come back and this comp just ain't gonna hack it.

JDay
06-18-2010, 1:09 AM
Look at a quad core i7 to start. Stick with the socket 1366 ones since they use tripple channel DDR3. ASUS has some really nice socket 1366 motherboards, the x58 chipset is what you want. Corsair XMS DDR3 is a good choice for the ram and I'd go with at least a Radeon HD 5770 video card. You'll also need to get a new PSU. One that is in the 800watt or higher range, don't skimp out on this since a cheap one can kill your system. If your optical/hard drives are SATA you won't need to replace those.

bigmike82
06-18-2010, 6:39 AM
Screw quad core i7. Go with the hex-core i7.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115223&cm_re=i7-_-19-115-223-_-Product

More seriously, what's your budget? Any gaming PC discussion without mention of a budget turns into a blinky-light circle jerk.

StephenhDMRS
06-18-2010, 7:40 AM
Seriously though... Just for the purposes of gaming, save yourself some money and buy a Core I-5.
It all comes down to the video card after that. The hexacore is useless for gaming. Games don't utilize more than 1(maybe 2) cores. It's all about the videocard.
Spend most of your money on the videocard. I would buy the ATI 5800 series. Any one of those should be fine. If you have lots of money buy two.

Someguy925
06-18-2010, 8:20 AM
I would post up your current spec. Honestly, if your computer is around 2-3 years old, all you need is a video card upgrade and maybe a bump to 4 gigs of ram. Running with my three-year old Q6600, 4 gigs of DDR2800, and a Radeon 4850, Bad Company 2 is starting to work my card where I have to run it on medium.

Also don't skimp on a power supply either.

Corbin Dallas
06-18-2010, 8:48 AM
Built my gaming rig years ago, and unfortunately after I built mine I completely let myself get out of the hardware game and am no longer "in the loop" with what's good and current. To be quite honest, I need to start from square one again. If anyone would be willing to perhaps spend some time over PM's/Emails to get me situated or perhaps assist me in picking parts to upgrade my rig that would be great. I can PM whoever is going to help me what my current specs are to see if anything can be salvaged or if I'd be better off starting from scratch. Used to game heavily, but this baby started aging and eventually I switched back to consoles which require no upgrading. But now I have an itch to come back and this comp just ain't gonna hack it.

How hard core do you want to get? I've built some insane systems for CAD designers and oil companies.

We're talking $60k machines here. Quad i7's, 256GB of ram, Raid 60 and dual QuadroFX 5600's...

Not sure you want to spend that kind of loot, but the first step is to set a budget.

JDay
06-18-2010, 9:56 AM
Screw quad core i7. Go with the hex-core i7.


The i7 920 beats those in gaming performance, even some of the i5s beat them too. More cores only does you good if you have an app that can take advantage of them, they're useful for things such as transcoding. For gaming however they usually slow you down. The price point on those is also insane.

Dekker
06-18-2010, 9:57 AM
Sent you a PM back Stephen. And for anyone else who wants to assist:

Seagate Barracuda 7200.9 ST3300822AS 300GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Hard Drive -Bare Drive

CORSAIR XMS 2GB (2 x 1GB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TWINX2048-3200

AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ Manchester 2.0GHz Socket 939 Dual-Core Processor Model ADA3800BVBOX

ABIT AN8 SLI 939 NVIDIA nForce4 SLI ATX AMD Motherboard

EVGA 256-P2-N553-AX GeForce 7600GT 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 SLI Support Video Card

500w PSU

Windows XP


Budget is around $6-700. The comp is going to be used like this one, casual PC gaming and my regular home computer so I'm not looking to buy the top of the line of anything. I don't do anything else intensive except game, surf the web and do homework. I obviously have the monitor and other peripherals, so those can be factored out(mouse, keyboard, speakers). I also already have a copy of Windows 7(they sent an extra copy to our office and my boss let me have it) so that should help a bit in letting me get a wider array of choices.

I built this budget rig years ago and it ran everything back then completely maxed out, and I'd like to go the same route(of course, it ages quicker). Didn't buy top of the line back then, and I don't wanna start now. I'm looking for what's currently considered budget items, but I've been out of the loop too long.

JDay
06-18-2010, 10:01 AM
Seriously though... Just for the purposes of gaming, save yourself some money and buy a Core I-5.

You can build a i7 system for about the same price, within $200 of an i5 system.

It all comes down to the video card after that. The hexacore is useless for gaming. Games don't utilize more than 1(maybe 2) cores. It's all about the videocard.
Spend most of your money on the videocard. I would buy the ATI 5800 series. Any one of those should be fine. If you have lots of money buy two.

Many of the newer games support 4 cores. 5800 series are nice if you get at least a 5850. Stay away from the 5830 though, it is kinda slow and for the slight increase in price there is no reason to not get a 5850 over the 5830.

JDay
06-18-2010, 10:04 AM
Also don't skimp on a power supply either.

Motherboard too, many people skimp on those not realizing that it is the heart of the system. I'm not saying to get one with a bunch of options you wont use, just saying to get one with a good chipset and made by a quality manufacturer (ASUS).

locosway
06-18-2010, 7:45 PM
The new AMD x6 spanks the Intels and it's a lot cheaper.

JDay
06-19-2010, 8:11 PM
The new AMD x6 spanks the Intels and it's a lot cheaper.

The only thing its faster at is encoding video, and thats only a marginal gain. The quad core i7 wins when it comes to gaming and is in the same price range, not to mention is can handle 8 threads total (4 physical cores/4 virtual cores) instead of the 6 that the Phenom II x6 can handle, uses less power, generates less heat and has triple channel DDR3 support. The i7 also has many instructions that the Phenom II series doesn't have.

http://benchmarkreviews.com/images/reviews/processor/HDT90ZFBK6DGR/Battlefield-Bad-Company-2_Benchmark.jpg

http://benchmarkreviews.com/images/reviews/processor/HDT90ZFBK6DGR/Unigine_Heaven-2_DX11_Benchmark.jpg

locosway
06-20-2010, 3:45 PM
Can you tell me more about the i7?

I haven't been into hardware in many years now, and I'm looking to build my wife a desktop that can play WoW, so nothing really serious.

I'm looking for something too, but more along the lines of programming/compiling/scientific calculations.

So, the AMD looked good for the price, but you say that the quad core i7 is actually 8 threads because of physical and virtual cores?

JDay
06-20-2010, 7:56 PM
So, the AMD looked good for the price, but you say that the quad core i7 is actually 8 threads because of physical and virtual cores?

Yes, the i7 has HyperThreading (virtual cores). The OS will actually see it as being an 8 core CPU. A 6 core Phenom II might be better for your uses though since you will be running a bunch of multi-threaded apps. There's lots of reviews with the pros and cons of each CPU if you do a Google search.

locosway
06-20-2010, 9:44 PM
Yeah, I've been looking and I always get conflicting reviews depending on who did the benchmark, what ram they had, which OS, and what apps...

Most reviews are game oriented, which granted they do stress the PC, but not nearly as hard as computational programs would.

Also, it seems for the price, the AMD's are still cheaper.

Vacaville
06-20-2010, 9:46 PM
Go get a copy of PC Gamer magazine. It'll give you good options for building a good gaming PC at various price points from $500 to $3500.

Brianguy
06-20-2010, 9:56 PM
I just upgraded my system last month. Here's what I got:
i7 930 @ microcenter for $200
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0331303
ASRock mobo with just about every feature I could need $189
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157189
G.Skill 6gb ddr3 $164
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231304

Slapped it together and fired up with no problems. Easiest build ever!
I used my 260gtx from previous system. It's plays everything smoothly at 1900x1200 on high settings.
BC2, APB, DiRT2, L4D2, Shattered Horizon, Tropico 3, etc... smooooooth

nemisis1400
06-20-2010, 10:03 PM
I just upgraded my system last month. Here's what I got:
i7 930 @ microcenter for $200
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0331303
ASRock mobo with just about every feature I could need $189
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157189
G.Skill 6gb ddr3 $164
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231304

Slapped it together and fired up with no problems. Easiest build ever!
I used my 260gtx from previous system. It's plays everything smoothly at 1900x1200 on high settings.


The sad thing about you doing this is that I might just go to those sites and buy all that just so that i don't have to go thru the headache of learning every detail before i make my own.

That's how I usually work, it's either a really long stretch of intricate planning to attempt to get everything right, or I scream kick the table and let instinct(or whatever is in front of me) guide me.

Brianguy
06-20-2010, 10:08 PM
The sad thing about you doing this is that I might just go to those sites and buy all that just so that i don't have to go thru the headache of learning every detail before i make my own.

That's how I usually work, it's either a really long stretch of intricate planning to attempt to get everything right, or I scream kick the table and let instinct(or whatever is in front of me) guide me.

Its a pretty good rig for the price. The ram has already gone down $5 in a month, damn technology! I took a gamble on that mobo and it worked out:D damn good features and hex core ready