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NaughtyMonkey
06-14-2010, 11:17 AM
I'm not fully sure if its an original sniper or not. I think the scope is the repro and from my search I think the rifle was originally just a normal M91/30 and someone stuck a scope on it. Its an Izhevsk and a number is on the left side (where the scope mount is) I believe that would be the scope number? Its also a 1943. Also as you can tell from the pictures, there is no numbers on the bolt. Either way though I'm not upset, got it about 2 years ago for $200 and it was the first C&R I ever bought. lol. Noob mistake maybe. haha. Oooh well lessened learned, Do more research before you buy something! lol.

Well here are some pictures:

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d87/redneckpyro/Guns/DSCN0180.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d87/redneckpyro/Guns/DSCN0189.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d87/redneckpyro/Guns/DSCN0190.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d87/redneckpyro/Guns/DSCN0191.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d87/redneckpyro/Guns/DSCN0192.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d87/redneckpyro/Guns/DSCN0194.jpg

mosinnagantm9130
06-14-2010, 11:24 AM
Looks like a repro to me. Still, $200 isn't bad for a repro at all. Repros these days go for around $400ish. I don't really want a repro, I'd rather save for an original, but $200 for one would be very hard for me to pass up.

NaughtyMonkey
06-14-2010, 11:29 AM
Well like I said it was my first C&R and it was 2 years ago when I first started and the guy told me it was legit. Maybe I should sell this and buy a real one, I don't no. haha. Thanks for putting that at rest for me though.

mosinnagantm9130
06-14-2010, 11:32 AM
Well, if you do wind up selling this one and getting an original one, Rguns is the only dealer that has them. They aren't cheap though, I think they run $800.

J&G sales has their repro PU's listed at $449, so if you do sell this one, you would be getting a good return on your investment.

Blaster 80
06-14-2010, 11:34 AM
$200 bucks man that's a good deal but i think the original's had hex recivers.

mosinnagantm9130
06-14-2010, 11:38 AM
$200 bucks man that's a good deal but i think the original's had hex recivers.

Original PU's were all built on round receivers. Original PE's were built on hex receivers.

NaughtyMonkey
06-14-2010, 11:38 AM
Well, if you do wind up selling this one and getting an original one, Rguns is the only dealer that has them. They aren't cheap though, I think they run $800.

J&G sales has their repro PU's listed at $449, so if you do sell this one, you would be getting a good return on your investment.

Sounds like I could get half the price of a real one. Hmmm something to think about. I'd wait until my C&R license gets her though so I don't have to dros etc.

Blaster 80
06-14-2010, 11:41 AM
Original PU's were all built on round receivers. Original PE's were built on hex receivers.Really i though its the other way around... oh well thanks for the correction.:D

Rekrab
06-14-2010, 12:02 PM
Sounds like I could get half the price of a real one. Hmmm something to think about. I'd wait until my C&R license gets her though so I don't have to dros etc.

I would think even the repro would still fall under C&R so it would be cash and carry. If not, I'm sure someone will correct me.:o

NaughtyMonkey
06-14-2010, 12:12 PM
I ment dros on buying an original lol. So it can come straight to my house instead of going to an FFL etc.

mj1
06-14-2010, 4:28 PM
Is that rifle parkerized? They should be blued or rubbed off color.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v130/montereyjack/d349302d.jpg

Palimino Stripe
06-14-2010, 6:27 PM
Not a bad price at all for what ya' got...

By the way- the 'triangle with a 1 in it' (above the date) indicates that after WWII it was sent to East Germany (probably not as a sniper though). That makes it a little bit rarer... And more historically interesting to say the least...

-Palimino

NaughtyMonkey
06-14-2010, 8:43 PM
[QUOTE=mj1;4454204]Is that rifle parkerized? They should be blued or rubbed off color.

I don't think it was. Doesn't look like the parkerized ones I've seen but I could be mistaken.

Thats cool about East Germany. I'm debating on selling it and getting an original M91/30 sniper or keeping it and getting an Original. Decisions decisions.

Also if I take the scope and scope mount off will I have to fill in the holes and where can I get a straight bolt, more original bolt.

mosinnagantm9130
06-14-2010, 10:05 PM
[QUOTE=mj1;4454204]
Thats cool about East Germany. I'm debating on selling it and getting an original M91/30 sniper or keeping it and getting an Original. Decisions decisions.

Also if I take the scope and scope mount off will I have to fill in the holes and where can I get a straight bolt, more original bolt.

I can't believe I missed the DDR mark :kest:

If you do sell it, that would add a small premium to the rifle.

Because the scope holes are on the side of the receiver, you can fire this safely without the scope mount on it. I don't know why you would want to, but it would not hurt anything.

NaughtyMonkey
06-15-2010, 12:57 AM
It would be more original without it. lol. Right?

cruddymutt
07-07-2010, 10:17 PM
you asked if the numbers in front of the scope mount were the scope numbers and the answer is yes. Generally, original Izzy PU snipers had the scopes serial stamped on the side of the receiver just like yours is. This is not conclusive evidence but it is an indication that your rifle could have been a sniper at one time but was desnipered during a refurbishment. During refurbishment scope numbers were either left alone, cleanly lined out, or like my 1942 PU were ground out totally. Now whether or not the numbers on your rifle are legit numbers or added later for whatever reason is uncertain.
I dont know enough to comment on the scope markings or the mount.

NaughtyMonkey
07-09-2010, 8:56 AM
Thanks, I'm not totally sure. I was told when I bought it that it was original. But that could be as true as me saying I been to the moon twice. I tried looking but is there a website that has the sniper mark serial numbers, etc, then I could check that way.

Rogerbutthead
07-09-2010, 9:09 AM
Very nice rifle for 200 bucks.

mosinnagantm9130
07-09-2010, 1:53 PM
Izhevsk scope numbers were not stamped on the side of the receiver, they were stamped on the side of the barrel shank. The numbers on your rifle were probably added by the importer.

NaughtyMonkey
07-09-2010, 3:55 PM
No importer name though.

cruddymutt
07-09-2010, 9:14 PM
Izhevsk scope numbers were not stamped on the side of the receiver, they were stamped on the side of the barrel shank. The numbers on your rifle were probably added by the importer.
Thanks for clearing that one up. Rookie mistake I made.

mosinnagantm9130
07-09-2010, 10:21 PM
No importer name though.

Well that's odd. It's not scope numbers from the Soviets, I'm sure of that. I have no idea where the would have come from then.

NaughtyMonkey
07-10-2010, 11:11 AM
I have no idea either. Kind of weird and need to do some research on what it is.

7.62x54R
07-11-2010, 3:47 PM
The import mark could be under the wood but moslty they are on the barrel towards the muzzle or on the receiver, that looks to be an older import my guess its on the barrel. The numbers are a translated version of the original serial number. because a lot of mosins use Cyrillic letters.

200$ is an excellent deal too. I would have bought it.

NaughtyMonkey
07-11-2010, 10:24 PM
Just wish it was an original sniper, but it is what it is.

Thanks for all the info guys/gals.