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islandchanel
03-29-2006, 5:38 PM
I was looking into trying to get a ccw and was wondering how all of you in california obtained the ccw. I know the actual process but what did you say the reasons why you were applying fot the ccw's to the sherrifs or police departments. I live in Riverside and from what I understand it is difficult to recieve one unless you were law enforcement. I am just trying to figure out what i can do or say to increase my odds of obtaining one.

C.G.
03-29-2006, 5:43 PM
http://www.packing.org/state/california/

StuckInCA
03-29-2006, 6:07 PM
I live in Riverside, and had to use my job as my reason (keys and codes to a armored truck branch and vault full of money). I first tried to use the fact that i am a NRA instructor, and would be traveling to various locations with handguns and rifles, and that did NOT fly with the Sheriff's Department. The best advice I an give is this, go to Firearm Training Associates for your CCW class, and they will help you craft a letter to send to the Sheriff requesting your CCW.

-Andy

marklbucla
03-29-2006, 6:11 PM
Their course and recommendations are mostly for Orange and San Bernardino Counties.

The typical reasons are Avid Shooter, transporting large sums of money, Pharmacist, Lawyers, Judges, people in general who would basically be targets.

Apeman88
03-29-2006, 10:03 PM
The best advice I an give is this, go to Firearm Training Associates for your CCW class, and they will help you craft a letter to send to the Sheriff requesting your CCW.

-Andy

I thought you are suppose to apply for the CCW permit first and once pre-approved... then take the class?? Got this info from packing.org.

Ken

marklbucla
03-29-2006, 10:06 PM
You can, but taking the class shows that you're committed to it and that you're capable of handling it responsibly.

I took it a step further and got my Utah permit and took the FTA class before I applied in Orange County.

Apeman88
03-29-2006, 11:59 PM
What amount of $$ is considered "a large amount"? I am responsible for bank deposits and often work late so would take the deposits home and make deposit at bank in the morning. Do this at least twice a week. Each deposit is approx $20K to $30K and approx 25% of that in cash and others in check and Money orders. Do they look at green cash only when considering or would checks and Money Orders count as well?

Ken

StuckInCA
03-30-2006, 12:09 AM
Not to hijack the thread, but the Fl (and I think Utah) permit, they will accept any type of NRA course completion. I have the FL app sitting on my desk, and to send it in all I need to do is copy my NRA handgun instructor certificate and I'm good (plus the fees and fingerprints)..

Something to think about if youre trying to keep it "cost effective".

edit: FTA is recommended by Riverside Sheriff, if you want to spend the money, if not RSO offers a course at Ben Clarke Training Center.

-Andy

Oldtimer
03-30-2006, 4:59 AM
Actually, there is NO "standardization" of what might be acceptable for a CCW permit to be issued in California. Each city and county in the state differ greatly, since this is not a "Shall issue" state.

During one particular year, the former Chief of Police of Culver City (Ted Cooke) approved more than 200 CCW applications. During that same year, the Chief of Police of Los Angeles only approved 2 applications! Culver City is a "postage stamp"-sized community, as compared to the immense size of the City of Los Angeles.

There is one way that you can get a CCW permit, but don't try it unless you have your heart and mind in the right places, and are willing to do something for your community at the same time. That would be to become either a full-time or reserve LEO. Besides doing something for your community, the training you'd go through would be invaluable. As a reserve LEO, you'd be required to work a couple of days per month, to maintain your reserve status. I worked with hundreds of reserve officers during my 31 years of full-time duty, and they were all great! Many of them, after getting their feet wet as reserves, turned around and went full-time! Something quite interesting, however, was that NONE of those reserve officers signed up merely for CCW priveleges!

gmcem50
03-30-2006, 5:24 PM
Not to hijack the thread, but the Fl (and I think Utah) permit, they will accept any type of NRA course completion. I have the FL app sitting on my desk, and to send it in all I need to do is copy my NRA handgun instructor certificate and I'm good (plus the fees and fingerprints)..

-Andy
That is true of Florida, but not Utah. You are required to attend training administered by a Utah-certified instructor to get a Utah CCW. If you get the Florida CCW, the Utah CCW is basically useless as they have mostly the same reciprocity (except for one or two states).

marklbucla
03-30-2006, 5:39 PM
Florida was much more expensive, IIRC.

Jarhead4
03-30-2006, 6:23 PM
There is one way that you can get a CCW permit, but don't try it unless you have your heart and mind in the right places, and are willing to do something for your community at the same time. That would be to become either a full-time or reserve LEO. Besides doing something for your community, the training you'd go through would be invaluable. As a reserve LEO, you'd be required to work a couple of days per month, to maintain your reserve status. I worked with hundreds of reserve officers during my 31 years of full-time duty, and they were all great! Many of them, after getting their feet wet as reserves, turned around and went full-time! Something quite interesting, however, was that NONE of those reserve officers signed up merely for CCW priveleges!

Thatís what I'm doing, but it is not for a CCW. I just want to help pitch in. Unfortunately, in order to be a level 1 Reserve Officer you have to go through the complete academy. I will complete my Level 3 in May. Good Advice!!!!:D

islandchanel
03-30-2006, 6:41 PM
Do you have to put yourself through the academy to become a reserve officer or do they have a special program for that.

Jarhead4
03-30-2006, 7:04 PM
Do you have to put yourself through the academy to become a reserve officer or do they have a special program for that.

I have not seen a department that will put you through the academy to be a reserve officer, but you can put yourself through the Reserve Academy.

A Reserve Academy or Modular Academy is like a college class, which meets once or twice a week then all day Saturday. They are at the same place as the police academy, and the same instructors teaches the classes. All California Police Academies are associated with a Junior College. So you would sign up for the Modular Academy like you would for taking a class at a Junior College, and pay the same amount as taking a junior college class. Once you complete all three levels of the Modular Academy you have completed the full Police Academy according to POST. Most Departments will not bring you on until you get to level 2 reserve status. Fremont Police Department will bring you on once you get to level 3, but you have to get to level 2 as a minimum. I am currently at the College of San Mateo and I will be completing my Level 3 in May.

The draw back for the Reserve Academy is that it takes about two years for you to complete the entire academy.

A level 3 canít do very much, except escort prisoners and help at riots.

A level 2 can go on patrols with a level 1 or another full time officer.

A level 1 is equivalent to a full time officer.

insin
03-30-2006, 11:11 PM
Their course and recommendations are mostly for Orange and San Bernardino Counties.

The typical reasons are Avid Shooter, transporting large sums of money, Pharmacist, Lawyers, Judges, people in general who would basically be targets.

Im glad to hear there may be hope then that I will be able to get a CCW since im a pharmacist. When I get a little more free time to take a course, ill apply.

DParker
03-31-2006, 7:29 AM
That is true of Florida, but not Utah. You are required to attend training administered by a Utah-certified instructor to get a Utah CCW. If you get the Florida CCW, the Utah CCW is basically useless as they have mostly the same reciprocity (except for one or two states).

I chose Utah not only because it was much cheaper, but because it gives me Washington state and FL does not.