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Krusher
03-21-2006, 10:06 AM
Looking at this safe on the bay
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=ADME:B:BCA:US:11&Item=7226865751

wondering how to tell if This is good enough for
future purchases to not need a locking device?
I dont see a model number and Its been painted a few times
apparently..

thanks for the input

QuickOnTheDraw
03-21-2006, 10:19 AM
Looks ok but what if the lock fails, your screwed and would have to take a cut off saw to get it open. but for the money it could be ok.

Charliegone
03-21-2006, 10:41 AM
Maybe this will help....google..

DOJ regulatory standards require a gun safe to meet either:

All of the following requirements:

1. Shall be able to fully contain firearms and provide for their secure storage.
2. Shall have a locking system consisting of at minimum a mechanical or electronic combination lock. The mechanical or electronic combination lock utilized by the safe shall have at least 10,000 possible combinations consisting of a minimum three numbers, letters, or symbols. The lock shall be protected by a case-hardened (Rc 60+) drill-resistant steel plate, or drill-resistant material of equivalent strength.
3. Boltwork shall consist of a minimum of three steel locking bolts of at least ˝ inch thickness that intrude from the door of the safe into the body of the safe or from the body of the safe into the door of the safe, which are operated by a separate handle and secured by the lock.
4. Shall be capable of repeated use. The exterior walls shall be constructed of a minimum 12-gauge thick steel for a single-walled safe, or the sum of the steel walls shall add up to at least .100 inches for safes with two walls. Doors shall be constructed of a minimum of two layers of 12-gauge steel, or one layer of 7-gauge steel compound construction.
5. Door hinges shall be protected to prevent the removal of the door. Protective features include, but are not limited to: hinges not exposed to the outside, interlocking door designs, dead bars, jeweler’s lugs and active or inactive locking bolts.

or

All of the following requirements:

1. Is listed as an Underwriters Laboratories Residential Security Container;
2. Is able to fully contain firearms;
3. Provides for the secure storage of firearms.

TonyM
03-21-2006, 10:44 AM
Looking at this safe on the bay
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=ADME:B:BCA:US:11&Item=7226865751

wondering how to tell if This is good enough for
future purchases to not need a locking device?
I dont see a model number and Its been painted a few times
apparently..

thanks for the input


Unless it's a California Approved Safe/Cabinet (which I really don't think it is) or meets the specs Charliegone posted above, you'll still need a lock to pickup any new guns. If you're looking for cheap and just to meet the requirement set by the state, grab one of the Stack-On safes. If you want something nice, spend some extra cash and get a good one you'll never need to replace.

grammaton76
03-21-2006, 2:27 PM
Looks ok but what if the lock fails, your screwed and would have to take a cut off saw to get it open. but for the money it could be ok.

If it's anything like mine, you can lift that keypad off to reveal a standard keyhole for backup. It's also how you get access to change the batteries.

Krusher
03-21-2006, 4:00 PM
:mad: Grrr.
well I got sniped !!
So there went the hope of that one being mine!